Just to recap JC:
Coen bad
Bowles good
White bad
Tucker elite
#4 ranked rushing bad
Anything else I missed?
Bowles was ranked the 14th best head coach. For in game I think it's fair. I would bump him up a little bit more because of culture and how much the players respect him.
i mean being ranked 14th isn't exactly great. I am assuming rookie head coaches are excluded such as Moore, Schottenheimer, Johnson, Glenn, and Coen. So that basically means he's ranked 14th out of 27 which is mid.
but let's see:
i think we can all agree that Super Bowl winning head coaches like Reid, McVay, Harbaugh, Sirianni,Tomlin, Carroll and Payton are better? That's 7 right there.
Would think most would also rank Vrabel, Shanahan, Jim Harbaugh, Dan Campbell (even tho i think he's overrated), McDermott, LaFluer, O'Connell, and Quinn (given last years performance) ahead of him.
so what's that get him to 16th overall.
What Demeco Ryans has done has been impressive as well.
i mean shit, i think the only coaches you can say for certain he is better than are Bucs guys like Canales and Raheem lol.
Given post Brady, was more of the success on the offense or defense side of the ball? Offense of course, it was a rhetorical question.
Last year, the defense stepped up in a few games but the most notable defensive victory was the 20-16 Detroit win in week 2. You can then maybe argue the last week 27-19 NO Saints victory
Other than that, when an opposing team put up 20 or less points, the Bucs offense dominated - WAS 37-20, PHI 33-16, NYG 30-7, LV 28-13, LAC 40-17, CAR 48-14.
defense folded against Kirk Cousins and the falcons giving up 33 pts a game, got destroyed by Baltimore and KC and a Cowboys back-up QB.
the defense and Bowles were "along for the ride last year". Many wanted Bowles fired but i didnt think so; i wanted to see the progress this year; the Bucs extending him was a premature move. I am not saying they should jettison him for playoff appearances, but if the defense regresses again this year, what exactly is Bowles doing for us?
dude...you think Bucky should split carries with Tucker? come on man.
He thinks Tucker should be the starter/RB1.
He’s more or less admitted it.
I think their carries should be equal and Bucky should have more touches.
Why?
According to your stats, Tucker is superior in every facet.
They're both elite.
Again, your metrics you posted for Tucker are all superior to Bucky’s.
So, why wouldn’t you want him to start and have more carries and touches?
Best thing for the offense and for the team is they both get about 250 carries for around 1,300 rushing yards. Similar to 2008 Panthers. Williams and Stewart combined for 457 carries, 2,351 yards and 28 rushing TDs. Panthers went 12-4 with an average defense and really bad QB play. If we can get that production from the running game with good QB play and an above average defense we're talking 13, 14, 15 wins.
Not sure why you’re continuing to duck the question.
Almost as if you’re doing it on purpose.
I’ll ask again…
You INTENTIONALLY posted stats/metrics, which included Bucky’s.
These numbers showed that Tucker was vastly superior in several, if not all, categories.
Why are you not pounding the drum for Tucker to be the starter and handle the majority of the carries snaps?
Stop deflecting and answer the very simple question that’s been presented.
I apologize, my response was too advanced for you.
We have two elite backs that both deserve carries and an elite offensive line. It was be advantageous (that means good for the Bucs) to be a high volume running team and use both of them. Keep them both fresh, give the defense different things to worry about and maximize their elite abilities. When Bucky has one of his signature runs where he goes gains 30+ yards and goes sideline to sideline the last thing the defense wants to see is a fresh Tucker coming in. When they just had to deal with Tucker getting 3 consecutive carries for 18 yards the last thing they want to see is a fresh Bucky coming in.
I apologize, my response was too advanced for you.
Quite the word salad to essentially say you’re full of shit.
After posting all those advanced metrics that shows Tucker is superior, there is ABSOLUTELY a reason why you won’t state he should be the starter (or get the majority of the carries).
Checkmate…
dude...you think Bucky should split carries with Tucker? come on man.
He thinks Tucker should be the starter/RB1.
He’s more or less admitted it.
I think their carries should be equal and Bucky should have more touches.
Why?
According to your stats, Tucker is superior in every facet.
They're both elite.
Again, your metrics you posted for Tucker are all superior to Bucky’s.
So, why wouldn’t you want him to start and have more carries and touches?
You just don't understand how to properly analyze the analytics.
Clearly.
Or, it’s just that I can easily expose his bullshit.
Then again, we’re talking about a dipshit who once claimed to be an NFL GM to gain clout on a sports message board.
So, there’s that.
Just to recap JC:
Coen bad
Bowles good
White bad
Tucker elite
#4 ranked rushing bad
Anything else I missed?
Bowles was ranked the 14th best head coach. For in game I think it's fair. I would bump him up a little bit more because of culture and how much the players respect him.
i mean being ranked 14th isn't exactly great. I am assuming rookie head coaches are excluded such as Moore, Schottenheimer, Johnson, Glenn, and Coen. So that basically means he's ranked 14th out of 27 which is mid.
but let's see:
i think we can all agree that Super Bowl winning head coaches like Reid, McVay, Harbaugh, Sirianni,Tomlin, Carroll and Payton are better? That's 7 right there.
Would think most would also rank Vrabel, Shanahan, Jim Harbaugh, Dan Campbell (even tho i think he's overrated), McDermott, LaFluer, O'Connell, and Quinn (given last years performance) ahead of him.
so what's that get him to 16th overall.
What Demeco Ryans has done has been impressive as well.
i mean shit, i think the only coaches you can say for certain he is better than are Bucs guys like Canales and Raheem lol.
Given post Brady, was more of the success on the offense or defense side of the ball? Offense of course, it was a rhetorical question.
Last year, the defense stepped up in a few games but the most notable defensive victory was the 20-16 Detroit win in week 2. You can then maybe argue the last week 27-19 NO Saints victory
Other than that, when an opposing team put up 20 or less points, the Bucs offense dominated - WAS 37-20, PHI 33-16, NYG 30-7, LV 28-13, LAC 40-17, CAR 48-14.
defense folded against Kirk Cousins and the falcons giving up 33 pts a game, got destroyed by Baltimore and KC and a Cowboys back-up QB.
the defense and Bowles were "along for the ride last year". Many wanted Bowles fired but i didnt think so; i wanted to see the progress this year; the Bucs extending him was a premature move. I am not saying they should jettison him for playoff appearances, but if the defense regresses again this year, what exactly is Bowles doing for us?
Sirianni is a no. Let's see Campbell without Ben Johnson. And God forbid Bowles did what Campbell did with the spike/FG team.
Offense dominated vs the Raiders? Before Tucker's long run it was 14-10 in the middle of the 4th with the offense having 3 turnovers. One of the TD drives started at mid field. The defense and Sean Tucker won that game buddy. Offense was just along for the ride.
Even with you leaving out 2022 and saying "post Brady", the defense has been just as good as the offense the last 2 years.
Offensive ranks in scoring- 20th and 4th.
Defensive ranks in scoring- 7th and 16th.
Wait, that actually means the defense has been better than the offense post Brady.
Lmfao and saying the defense dominated against bottom 5 teams playing the backup backup QB, and backups across the board.
Comical.
But then again, so are most of your takes.
Again you didn't answer (a theme of yours) to so I'll say it again... take out Tucker's last garbage time drive against backups vs the saints and he has a pedestrian yet effective game. They didn't "split carries". The carries became even because he got 6 carries, 68 and a TD to end the game in garbage time after Bucky was pulled.
Just to recap JC:
Coen bad
Bowles good
White bad
Tucker elite
#4 ranked rushing bad
Anything else I missed?
Bowles was ranked the 14th best head coach. For in game I think it's fair. I would bump him up a little bit more because of culture and how much the players respect him.
i mean being ranked 14th isn't exactly great. I am assuming rookie head coaches are excluded such as Moore, Schottenheimer, Johnson, Glenn, and Coen. So that basically means he's ranked 14th out of 27 which is mid.
but let's see:
i think we can all agree that Super Bowl winning head coaches like Reid, McVay, Harbaugh, Sirianni,Tomlin, Carroll and Payton are better? That's 7 right there.
Would think most would also rank Vrabel, Shanahan, Jim Harbaugh, Dan Campbell (even tho i think he's overrated), McDermott, LaFluer, O'Connell, and Quinn (given last years performance) ahead of him.
so what's that get him to 16th overall.
What Demeco Ryans has done has been impressive as well.
i mean shit, i think the only coaches you can say for certain he is better than are Bucs guys like Canales and Raheem lol.
Given post Brady, was more of the success on the offense or defense side of the ball? Offense of course, it was a rhetorical question.
Last year, the defense stepped up in a few games but the most notable defensive victory was the 20-16 Detroit win in week 2. You can then maybe argue the last week 27-19 NO Saints victory
Other than that, when an opposing team put up 20 or less points, the Bucs offense dominated - WAS 37-20, PHI 33-16, NYG 30-7, LV 28-13, LAC 40-17, CAR 48-14.
defense folded against Kirk Cousins and the falcons giving up 33 pts a game, got destroyed by Baltimore and KC and a Cowboys back-up QB.
the defense and Bowles were "along for the ride last year". Many wanted Bowles fired but i didnt think so; i wanted to see the progress this year; the Bucs extending him was a premature move. I am not saying they should jettison him for playoff appearances, but if the defense regresses again this year, what exactly is Bowles doing for us?
Sirianni is a no. Let's see Campbell without Ben Johnson. And God forbid Bowles did what Campbell did with the spike/FG team.
Offense dominated vs the Raiders? Before Tucker's long run it was 14-10 in the middle of the 4th with the offense having 3 turnovers. One of the TD drives started at mid field. The defense and Sean Tucker won that game buddy. Offense was just along for the ride.
Even with you leaving out 2022 and saying "post Brady", the defense has been just as good as the offense the last 2 years.
Offensive ranks in scoring- 20th and 4th.
Defensive ranks in scoring- 7th and 16th.
Wait, that actually means the defense has been better than the offense post Brady.
Yes, Tucker did contribute to the offense dominating. Doesn't mean he is Adrian Peterson caliber. And offense was driving already in LV territory when Tucker ripped off that run on a 2nd and 3
the PPG rankings confirm that the offense carried the team in 2024, no? also shows quite a drop off in their production on defense from 2023?
Yes, Tucker did contribute to the offense dominating. Doesn't mean he is Adrian Peterson caliber.
AP, no. Emmitt Smith?
:-)
Doesn't mean he is Adrian Peterson caliber.
He's Emmitt Smith. Eeesh, get your HOF RB comparisons right.
Just to recap JC:
Coen bad
Bowles good
White bad
Tucker elite
#4 ranked rushing bad
Anything else I missed?
Bowles was ranked the 14th best head coach. For in game I think it's fair. I would bump him up a little bit more because of culture and how much the players respect him.
i mean being ranked 14th isn't exactly great. I am assuming rookie head coaches are excluded such as Moore, Schottenheimer, Johnson, Glenn, and Coen. So that basically means he's ranked 14th out of 27 which is mid.
but let's see:
i think we can all agree that Super Bowl winning head coaches like Reid, McVay, Harbaugh, Sirianni,Tomlin, Carroll and Payton are better? That's 7 right there.
Would think most would also rank Vrabel, Shanahan, Jim Harbaugh, Dan Campbell (even tho i think he's overrated), McDermott, LaFluer, O'Connell, and Quinn (given last years performance) ahead of him.
so what's that get him to 16th overall.
What Demeco Ryans has done has been impressive as well.
i mean shit, i think the only coaches you can say for certain he is better than are Bucs guys like Canales and Raheem lol.
Given post Brady, was more of the success on the offense or defense side of the ball? Offense of course, it was a rhetorical question.
Last year, the defense stepped up in a few games but the most notable defensive victory was the 20-16 Detroit win in week 2. You can then maybe argue the last week 27-19 NO Saints victory
Other than that, when an opposing team put up 20 or less points, the Bucs offense dominated - WAS 37-20, PHI 33-16, NYG 30-7, LV 28-13, LAC 40-17, CAR 48-14.
defense folded against Kirk Cousins and the falcons giving up 33 pts a game, got destroyed by Baltimore and KC and a Cowboys back-up QB.
the defense and Bowles were "along for the ride last year". Many wanted Bowles fired but i didnt think so; i wanted to see the progress this year; the Bucs extending him was a premature move. I am not saying they should jettison him for playoff appearances, but if the defense regresses again this year, what exactly is Bowles doing for us?
Sirianni is a no. Let's see Campbell without Ben Johnson. And God forbid Bowles did what Campbell did with the spike/FG team.
Offense dominated vs the Raiders? Before Tucker's long run it was 14-10 in the middle of the 4th with the offense having 3 turnovers. One of the TD drives started at mid field. The defense and Sean Tucker won that game buddy. Offense was just along for the ride.
Even with you leaving out 2022 and saying "post Brady", the defense has been just as good as the offense the last 2 years.
Offensive ranks in scoring- 20th and 4th.
Defensive ranks in scoring- 7th and 16th.
Wait, that actually means the defense has been better than the offense post Brady.
Yes, Tucker did contribute to the offense dominating. Doesn't mean he is Adrian Peterson caliber. And offense was driving already in LV territory when Tucker ripped off that run on a 2nd and 3
the PPG rankings confirm that the offense carried the team in 2024, no? also shows quite a drop off in their production on defense from 2023?
What games did the offense carry the team to victory? By carry I mean the defense was playing really bad and the offense won the game themselves. The closest would be at Carolina but even that game Baker wasn’t playing well and the defense made an insane play in OT.
The defense basically won the Lions game by themselves.
Lmfao and saying the defense dominated against bottom 5 teams playing the backup backup QB, and backups across the board.
Comical.
But then again, so are most of your takes.
Again you didn't answer (a theme of yours) to so I'll say it again... take out Tucker's last garbage time drive against backups vs the saints and he has a pedestrian yet effective game. They didn't "split carries". The carries became even because he got 6 carries, 68 and a TD to end the game in garbage time after Bucky was pulled.
Still waiting JC
Lmfao and saying the defense dominated against bottom 5 teams playing the backup backup QB, and backups across the board.
Comical.
But then again, so are most of your takes.
Again you didn't answer (a theme of yours) to so I'll say it again... take out Tucker's last garbage time drive against backups vs the saints and he has a pedestrian yet effective game. They didn't "split carries". The carries became even because he got 6 carries, 68 and a TD to end the game in garbage time after Bucky was pulled.
Still waiting JC
You're waiting for an explanation as to how Tucker and Irving each getting 14 carries isn't splitting carries?
Lmfao and saying the defense dominated against bottom 5 teams playing the backup backup QB, and backups across the board.
Comical.
But then again, so are most of your takes.
Again you didn't answer (a theme of yours) to so I'll say it again... take out Tucker's last garbage time drive against backups vs the saints and he has a pedestrian yet effective game. They didn't "split carries". The carries became even because he got 6 carries, 68 and a TD to end the game in garbage time after Bucky was pulled.
Still waiting JC
You're waiting for an explanation as to how Tucker and Irving each getting 14 carries isn't splitting carries?
How many of those 14 carries came in the first half for Tucker? How about their snap count? Care to address that?
You can keep playing this game if you want, as you clearly don’t mind making an ass out of yourself. But you aren’t fooling anybody.
Lmfao and saying the defense dominated against bottom 5 teams playing the backup backup QB, and backups across the board.
Comical.
But then again, so are most of your takes.
Again you didn't answer (a theme of yours) to so I'll say it again... take out Tucker's last garbage time drive against backups vs the saints and he has a pedestrian yet effective game. They didn't "split carries". The carries became even because he got 6 carries, 68 and a TD to end the game in garbage time after Bucky was pulled.
Still waiting JC
You're waiting for an explanation as to how Tucker and Irving each getting 14 carries isn't splitting carries?
You quoted my answer. He got half his production on the ground in the final drive, in a blowout, after Bucky got benched, against backups.
Figure it out