You want the breakdown, here it is.
Bucky rush for 2
Bucky rush for 15
Tucker rush for 11
Tucker reception for 15
Bucky rush for 8
Bucky rush for 2
Bucky rush for -2
Bucky reception for 6
Tucker reception for 36, TD
Bucky rush for 9
Bucky rush for -1
Tucker rush for 6
Tucker reception for 5
Tucker rush for 2
Tucker rush for 10
Bucky rush for 5
Bucky rush for 31
Tucker rush for 18
Bucky rush for 1
Tucker rush for 4
Tucker rush for 13
Tucker rush for 8
Bucky rush for 2
Bucky rush for 1
Bucky reception for 18
Bucky rush for 7
Bucky rush for 1, TD
Tucker rush for 36
Tucker rush for 3
Tucker rush for 0
Tucker rush for 12
Tucker rush for 8
Tucker rush for 5, TD
This is your smoking gun why a split backfield won't work? This is why you guys are gatekeeping carries, touches and snaps for Rachaad White over Sean Tucker?
All you guys are doing is finding more data FOR Sean Tucker to play.
But you aren’t fooling anybody.
Neither are you lmao
All while resurrecting a thread where you claimed Evans wasn’t a “true #1 WR”
Would you just shut the fuck up already?
@biggs3535 isn’t going to date you.
Maybe you should tell BIGGS that?
ROFLMAO
You're waiting for an explanation as to how Tucker and Irving each getting 14 carries isn't splitting carries?
Actually, we’re waiting on the answer as to why you’re not advocating for Tucker to start/get the majority of the carries; since you continue to emphasize his stats/metrics are better than Bucky’s.
I mean, by your posts where you emphasize Tucker’s stats/metrics are superior to Irving’s; isn’t it fair to suggest you think Tucker is a better back than Bucky?
You're waiting for an explanation as to how Tucker and Irving each getting 14 carries isn't splitting carries?
Actually, we’re waiting on the answer as to why you’re not advocating for Tucker to start/get the majority of the carries; since you continue to emphasize his stats/metrics are better than Bucky’s.
I mean, by your posts where you emphasize Tucker’s stats/metrics are superior to Irving’s; isn’t it fair to suggest you think Tucker is a better back than Bucky?
That's already been answered.
Bruce Arians is viewed by many as Bucs coaching royalty. His first season with the Bucs he benched Ronald Jones for giving up a sack in a WIN against the Jaguars.
"Rojo missed a blitz pickup and that's it," Arians said, per the Tampa Bay Times' Rick Stroud. "You don't get to play no more."
ROJO was a 2nd round pick and the lead runner when he got benched
somehow . . to JC . . pass pro does not matter when it comes to Tucker, even though he gave ip a terrible sack during the season
silly discussion. If Tucker was better at the JOB (not just running) he would play over White. Maybe this next year he does, who knows, but hes not been held back by a conspiracy or incompetence (by the record setting OC)
It [would] be advantageous (that means good for the Bucs) to be a high volume running team
In 2024 Detroit and Atlanta were the signature two back run teams (ie Eagles, Ravens and Commanders had running QBs)
Lions RA/game: 30.9
Falcons RA/game: 29.1
Buccaneers RA/game: 28.2
:-)
Even if you go with the top run teams, the Eagles were 36.7 RA/game BUT with Hurts averaging 10 RA/game. The ravens are 33.4 RA/game with Jackson average 8 RA/game. The Commanders are 31.3 RA/game, but with Daniels averaging 9 RA/game.
Baker Mayfield averaged only 3.5 RA per game.
You're waiting for an explanation as to how Tucker and Irving each getting 14 carries isn't splitting carries?
Actually, we’re waiting on the answer as to why you’re not advocating for Tucker to start/get the majority of the carries; since you continue to emphasize his stats/metrics are better than Bucky’s.
I mean, by your posts where you emphasize Tucker’s stats/metrics are superior to Irving’s; isn’t it fair to suggest you think Tucker is a better back than Bucky?
That's already been answered.
No you didn't.
You ducked it.
That being said, you do think Tucker is a better RB than Bucky, right?
You're waiting for an explanation as to how Tucker and Irving each getting 14 carries isn't splitting carries?
Actually, we’re waiting on the answer as to why you’re not advocating for Tucker to start/get the majority of the carries; since you continue to emphasize his stats/metrics are better than Bucky’s.
I mean, by your posts where you emphasize Tucker’s stats/metrics are superior to Irving’s; isn’t it fair to suggest you think Tucker is a better back than Bucky?
That's already been answered.
No you didn't.
You ducked it.
That being said, you do think Tucker is a better RB than Bucky, right?
Check again. It's clearly answered.
Bruce Arians is viewed by many as Bucs coaching royalty. His first season with the Bucs he benched Ronald Jones for giving up a sack in a WIN against the Jaguars.
"Rojo missed a blitz pickup and that's it," Arians said, per the Tampa Bay Times' Rick Stroud. "You don't get to play no more."
ROJO was a 2nd round pick and the lead runner when he got benched
somehow . . to JC . . pass pro does not matter when it comes to Tucker, even though he gave ip a terrible sack during the season
silly discussion. If Tucker was better at the JOB (not just running) he would play over White. Maybe this next year he does, who knows, but hes not been held back by a conspiracy or incompetence (by the record setting OC)
He was also the lead runner the rest of the season. Thought you had another smoking gun, didn't you?
Using pff pass blocking just off the top my head White was 66, Tucker 61 and Bucky was in the 30s. Using your logic should Bucky be relegated to just kickoff returns?
It [would] be advantageous (that means good for the Bucs) to be a high volume running team
In 2024 Detroit and Atlanta were the signature two back run teams (ie Eagles, Ravens and Commanders had running QBs)
Lions RA/game: 30.9
Falcons RA/game: 29.1
Buccaneers RA/game: 28.2
:-)
Even if you go with the top run teams, the Eagles were 36.7 RA/game BUT with Hurts averaging 10 RA/game. The ravens are 33.4 RA/game with Jackson average 8 RA/game. The Commanders are 31.3 RA/game, but with Daniels averaging 9 RA/game.
Baker Mayfield averaged only 3.5 RA per game.
28 per game. Cool with me. 14 for Irving, 14 for Tucker, 0 for White.
It [would] be advantageous (that means good for the Bucs) to be a high volume running team
In 2024 Detroit and Atlanta were the signature two back run teams (ie Eagles, Ravens and Commanders had running QBs)
Lions RA/game: 30.9
Falcons RA/game: 29.1
Buccaneers RA/game: 28.2
:-)
Even if you go with the top run teams, the Eagles were 36.7 RA/game BUT with Hurts averaging 10 RA/game. The ravens are 33.4 RA/game with Jackson average 8 RA/game. The Commanders are 31.3 RA/game, but with Daniels averaging 9 RA/game.
Baker Mayfield averaged only 3.5 RA per game.
28 per game. Cool with me. 14 for Irving, 14 for Tucker, 0 for White.
JC, do you agree that in 2024 ONE reason that White was played over Tucker was PASS PRO?
You don't have to agree that White was superior at PASS PRO (he was), but that is a LEGIT reason that in 2024 Tucker < White?
Thought you had another smoking gun, didn't you?
LMAO. The only thing that separates your child-like trolling ^^ from Biggs is Biggs runs from it.
There no "smoking gun" or any gun lol in pointing out that young RBs often get benched or limited use because of their relative weakness at PASSPRO. That is no more controversial than saying the sun rises in the east.
And that truth is why you are on here having to post the hilarious notion that the Bucs need to run even more in 2024 and especially in 2025. and hilariously try to use PFF when this is the kind of stuff you find on PFF:
"The Buccaneers made some dramatic changes at running back for their final regular season game and their playoff game. Irving was the solo running back on early downs for 62 of 75 plays. The Buccaneers used two running backs on seven plays, Tucker on five and White on just one play. This was a dramatic drop in White’s early-down snaps. Similarly, Irving took all nine snaps in short-yardage and goalline situations. However, white’s playing time in third downs shot up to 95%, and he took all eight snaps on two-minute drills."
Tucker did move into the EARLY down ROLE, but so did White's "playing time in third downs" shoot "up to 95%" and he took "all eight snaps on two minute drill."
So, Tucker couldNOT over Irving on early downs OR White on late downs.
I would imagine this is why DH (whose own take was that White would be lead dog all season) is now hammering you for seemingly saying Tucker >Irving
Tucker rush for 36
Tucker rush for 3
Tucker rush for 0
Tucker rush for 12
Tucker rush for 8
Tucker rush for 5, TD
And these happened at the end of a blowout game.
Do you have a learning disability?
This thread is largely a battle of trolls because so many of the trolls here thump their chest about football acumen . . WHILE showing they have barely a clue about actual football.
JC (who once claimed to have been a GM) calling people dumb while arguing that Tucker is Emmitt Smith and getting rebuttal from Biggs and a DH who both said that White would be the lead dog all season. Good grief.
By comparison, the early-on suggestion that Irving might over take White was TROLLED (lmao) for 40 some odd pages to the point of one of those trolls - BIGGS - even trampled on himself with the "over and over and over again" lie. One of the funniest troll outings of all time.
TUCKER did not get more snaps in 2024 because he was not the same all around back as either Irving or White. He couldn't take early down run snaps from irving as he ascended and he could not take passing down snaps from White. Thats why he was largely relegated to the 4:00 mop up role and why he will be in that role again barring injury or his own substantial IMPROVEMENT in his pass pro and receiving or a big-time drop-off by White and/or Irving, both hopefully unlikely. White is playing for a contract, so . .
The Bucs dont have to run 600 times to win in 2025, they just need to stay balanced . . . like 2024. To go further in the regular season and playoffs they need TO STAY HEALTHY (injuries do matter in football) and they need better on defense and they need the expected MATURATION of some young offensive talents, like JMAC and even Irving.
It [would] be advantageous (that means good for the Bucs) to be a high volume running team
In 2024 Detroit and Atlanta were the signature two back run teams (ie Eagles, Ravens and Commanders had running QBs)
Lions RA/game: 30.9
Falcons RA/game: 29.1
Buccaneers RA/game: 28.2
:-)
Even if you go with the top run teams, the Eagles were 36.7 RA/game BUT with Hurts averaging 10 RA/game. The ravens are 33.4 RA/game with Jackson average 8 RA/game. The Commanders are 31.3 RA/game, but with Daniels averaging 9 RA/game.
Baker Mayfield averaged only 3.5 RA per game.
28 per game. Cool with me. 14 for Irving, 14 for Tucker, 0 for White.
JC, do you agree that in 2024 ONE reason that White was played over Tucker was PASS PRO?
You don't have to agree that White was superior at PASS PRO (he was), but that is a LEGIT reason that in 2024 Tucker < White?
I agree to that. Do you agree Coen called too many passes? Especially at Carolina, vs LV, at DAL, vs NO?