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LOL nah, Dom sucked. I'm going to exclude '12 and '13 because it doesn't fit my agendaHis notable first round picks:Adrian ClayborneJosh FreemanHis notable second round picks:Brian PriceArrelious BennDaQuan BowersHis notable third round picks:Roy MillerMyron LewisNotable fourth round picks:Kyle MooreLuke StockerYou can go through all his first 3 drafts and find half of his top 4 picks turned out to be busts. Look how thin we were at wide receiver and tight end this year? Look how pathetic our pass rush is. He sucks.

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 7:48 pm
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He was a wizard at personnel moves and trades.

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 7:49 pm
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He was a wizard at personnel moves and trades.

Please be sarcastic. Please.

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 7:50 pm
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LOL nah, Dom sucked. I'm going to exclude '12 and '13 because I believe those were Schiano picksHis notable first round picks:Adrian ClayborneJosh FreemanHis notable second round picks:Brian PriceArrelious BennDaQuan BowersHis notable third round picks:Roy MillerMyron LewisNotable fourth round picks:Kyle MooreLuke StockerYou can go through all his first 3 drafts and find half of his top 4 picks turned out to be busts. Look how thin we were at wide receiver and tight end this year? Look how pathetic our pass rush is. He sucks.

You could go through that with any team. Most his misses especially earlier in the draft those players were set back because of injuries. The only picks I think Schiano influenced since he has been here have been the big east selections.  He's brought in multiple pro bowlers through the draft and we NEVER brought in big named free agents before Dom.  And anybody who's been around knows Freeman was a Raheem pick.

There was a distinct split in drafting players between Schiano and Raheem's regimes. Either you are of the thinking (I lean closer to this) that Dom was just a body and a puss-bag who let coaches control him which explains why Raheem's picks were so poor and we've drafted really strong the last two years or you give equal credit all around and Dom's drafting record is abysmal.Either way, he needs to go.

Or you could have a basic understanding of organizational dynamics and realize that When Raheem was coach Dom was the boss, and when Schiano was coach Dom was no longer the boss and the very stark difference in drafting flowed from that.Dom sucked plain and simple.  And drafting wasn't the only thing he sucked at.  Negotiating, scouting, self-scouting all were fail under him.Dom seems like a nice guy, though I think he seemed like a bit of a snake too, but that's just me.  Any which way though, we are better off that he's gone.

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 7:54 pm
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I am pretty choked up about Dom's departure. Tears. Lots of tears.

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 8:04 pm
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He was a wizard at personnel moves and trades.

Please be sarcastic. Please.

VJ, Goldson, Nicks (mrsa has hurt him, very unlucky), Revis through trade rape. He got a second round pick for Gaines. In 2012 draft he turned a 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 into a 1, 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 7. He **CENSORED**ing killed it. Also notice that despite all these deals he has given out recently, the Bucs are sitting in a great situation salary cap wise. None of us know how heavily involved he was in selecting players in the draft and Schiano was apparently not one of his top choices after Chip Kelly walked out on him the last second. He was damn good. I envision this looking like what happened to the Florida Gators. Zook brought in studs and Meyers reaped the benefits. Dominik brought in studs and that's why this situation in terms of roster talent is so damn attractive. That is why many are calling the 2014 Bucs potentially the 2013 Chiefs.

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 8:12 pm
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LOL nah, Dom sucked. I'm going to exclude '12 and '13 because I believe those were Schiano picksHis notable first round picks:Adrian ClayborneJosh FreemanHis notable second round picks:Brian PriceArrelious BennDaQuan BowersHis notable third round picks:Roy MillerMyron LewisNotable fourth round picks:Kyle MooreLuke StockerYou can go through all his first 3 drafts and find half of his top 4 picks turned out to be busts. Look how thin we were at wide receiver and tight end this year? Look how pathetic our pass rush is. He sucks.

Wait a second.  If you make this list, why can't we be like "Damn, he took Gerald McCoy and Mike Williams?"  And FWIW, if you're just going to say "Nah, can't give him credit for David, cause that was a Schiano pick" why can't we say "Josh Freeman was clearly a Raheem pick"?

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 8:13 pm
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VJ, Goldson, Nicks (mrsa has hurt him, very unlucky), Revis through trade rape. He got a second round pick for Gaines. In 2012 draft he turned a 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 into a 1, 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 7. He **CENSORED**ing killed it. Also notice that despite all these deals he has given out recently, the Bucs are sitting in a great situation salary cap wise.

He grossly overpaid for Nicks and Goldson and made both of them highest paid at their positions. Same with Revis. VJax got crazy jack for a guy who is what he is. Look, he didn't get value. He paid top dollar for talent. Who are his good free agency finds, bargains or gems?

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 8:16 pm
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VJ, Goldson, Nicks (mrsa has hurt him, very unlucky), Revis through trade rape. He got a second round pick for Gaines. In 2012 draft he turned a 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 into a 1, 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 7. He **CENSORED**ing killed it. Also notice that despite all these deals he has given out recently, the Bucs are sitting in a great situation salary cap wise.

He grossly overpaid for Nicks and Goldson and made both of them highest paid at their positions. Same with Revis. VJax got crazy jack for a guy who is what he is. Look, he didn't get value. He paid top dollar for talent. Who are his good free agency finds, bargains or gems?

Is it your money? He structured the deals to be very cap friendly. The market dictates. If a guys is a FA, he is going to get paid above normal. It happens ALL the time.

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 8:22 pm
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VJ, Goldson, Nicks (mrsa has hurt him, very unlucky), Revis through trade rape. He got a second round pick for Gaines. In 2012 draft he turned a 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 into a 1, 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 7. He **CENSORED**ing killed it. Also notice that despite all these deals he has given out recently, the Bucs are sitting in a great situation salary cap wise.

He grossly overpaid for Nicks and Goldson and made both of them highest paid at their positions. Same with Revis. VJax got crazy jack for a guy who is what he is. Look, he didn't get value. He paid top dollar for talent. Who are his good free agency finds, bargains or gems?

Is it your money? He structured the deals to be very cap friendly. The market dictates. If a guys is a FA, he is going to get paid above normal. It happens ALL the time.

Market didn't dictate any of those signings. He paid over market for every guy I listed. None of them were gonna sniff the dollars we gave them. That was part of the problem, he didn't feel the market for players and sign them to value nor find guys who could be cheaper. Some day when guys like David and GMC get their new deals we will have to be smarter with money and not just drunken sailor stupid.Plus, look at where that drunk sailor money went - guards, safeties, kickers and punters? Seriously, this is a good steward of your franchise?

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 8:29 pm
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VJ, Goldson, Nicks (mrsa has hurt him, very unlucky), Revis through trade rape. He got a second round pick for Gaines. In 2012 draft he turned a 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 into a 1, 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 7. He **CENSORED**ing killed it. Also notice that despite all these deals he has given out recently, the Bucs are sitting in a great situation salary cap wise.

He grossly overpaid for Nicks and Goldson and made both of them highest paid at their positions. Same with Revis. VJax got crazy jack for a guy who is what he is. Look, he didn't get value. He paid top dollar for talent. Who are his good free agency finds, bargains or gems?

Nicks was the best OG in the league when we signed him. He's been set back by injury. You can't blame that on Dom.

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 8:29 pm
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I like Dom, and I think he will be a GM in this league again pretty soon. But with all of the money invested, you just can't go 4-12.

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 8:31 pm
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I can think of three reasons why Dominik had to go. Arellious BennBrian PriceMyron LewisThree more reasons:Golden TateJon AsamoahEric Decker

Benn, Price, Lewis, Bowers all set back by injuries. At least it wasn't like Dexter Jackson. What about McCoy, David, Martin, Foster, Barron, Mike Will, Clayborn, and so on who have been more than solid and some pro bowls?

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 8:34 pm
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"It happens all the time"...but when Dom does it, it's very wizardy. You don't see a contradiction there, do you?And Nicks had hamburger toe when we signed him. The Saints are still laughing about that one.

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 8:41 pm
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I like Dom, and I think he will be a GM in this league again pretty soon. But with all of the money invested, you just can't go 4-12.

doubt it.  28-52.  Hard to sell that to a fan base.

 
Posted : Dec. 30, 2013 8:48 pm
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