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If Brady leaves - the battle plan has to include the 2024 draft QB, right?

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Look, if Brady wants to come back, you kind of have to let him. He took a laughing stock franchise and put us on the map. Won us a Superbowl. We are all eternally grateful. I accept that. But is that the best direction for this team.. I highly doubt it. We can blame Lefty, injuries, drops whatever but Brady did not play at a high level this year. If he comes back and we have a mini reload I think the most likely scenario is a repeat of this year. Maybe squeak into the playoffs in a weak division but not really having a shot.  

 
But if he DOES retire or go elsewhere - I think the battle plan is pretty obvious. Look at the teams who have found SUSTAINED success in this league.. The Chiefs, the Bengals, the Bills. The blueprints are there. They've done it by drafting a star QB early and building around them. 
 
And lucky for us the 2024 draft class, as of today, is looking great at QB. Look, we've been kicking the can down the road to go all in for the last 3 years. All this dead money, all these FAs, why not take this season to get our books right? Take the year to see what we got in Trask and to focus on development. Load up on the trenches this draft. Put ourselves in a position to have a solid base to build around should we have a highly drafted QB in 2 years. I get it no one wants a tanking season but watching Caleb William highlights for a year isn't the end of the world
 
Posted : Jan. 19, 2023 2:38 pm
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We should proceed as if Brady won't be back. We have to have a QB of the future. Brady, if he comes back is only good for another year. Trask probably isn't the answer. We have to be thinking QB in the draft. And not a slow-foot, slow-release, noodle-arm like Trask. We need a modern QB that can move around. We aren't going to the Superbowl in the 2023 season. It wouldn't matter who the coach and QB are. But we're not in full-on rebuild, as we still have a lot of talent at a number of positions. Time to bring on the franchise QB of the future, if possible. If Brady decides to come back, then the QBOF sits for a year, which is no problem.

 
Posted : Jan. 19, 2023 2:54 pm
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Posted by: @buccaneernw

And not a slow-foot, slow-release, noodle-arm like Trask

Tell us you haven't seen Trask play, without telling us you haven't seen Trask play.

 
Posted : Jan. 19, 2023 3:03 pm
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Posted by: @buccaneernw

And not a slow-foot, slow-release, noodle-arm like Trask

Tell us you haven't seen Trask play, without telling us you haven't seen Trask play.

 

Tell us you're delusional about Trask without telling us you're delusional about Trask.

Kyle Trask does not have the arm or the mobility of any of the top QBs in the league. He just doesn't. 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 19, 2023 3:22 pm
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Lefty is gone. Brady is done. The Bucs and us fans need to brace for dark days and rough seas ahead. 

 
Posted : Jan. 19, 2023 4:14 pm
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Yeah it should but that would be at the expense of Todd Bowles' career. So I'm interested to see what type of moves will be made once Brady is retired. I can't see Bowles coming back if he has a bad season and lets say brings in a vet qb like Brissett. Dude is kind of screwed if Brady retires because he totally bombed it with a "win-now" roster so I bet he will try to "win-now" again but with a vet. If the results aren't good enough he's done. Rolling Trask out next year as the starter would be a career ender imo and he knows it. Deep down I want Bucs to play him just to see what he has and if he isn't the answer then draft Caleb Williams. 

 
Posted : Jan. 19, 2023 4:31 pm
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Unless the defense is absolutely terrible, I think Bowels will at least get 3 years as HC. He did just help win us a Superbowl, his leash won't be that short. Plus the whole him not getting to pick his staff thing this past year. They'll give his new staff at least 2 years together. I think he survives a bad season if they wanted to target that 2024 draft class.

I really like Drake Maye too. A lot of intriguing names in that group. So as long as Trask gets some action. Roll him with a Baker / Darnold type. 

 
Posted : Jan. 19, 2023 5:18 pm
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Posted by: @buccaneernw

And not a slow-foot, slow-release, noodle-arm like Trask

Tell us you haven't seen Trask play, without telling us you haven't seen Trask play.

Exactly. 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 19, 2023 6:39 pm
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Ummm

Exclusive: Tom Brady has rented a luxury apartment near Miami Beach for over 70 thousand dollars per month as of the 1st of January, per sources.

Brady signed the lease pre-playoffs.

 
Posted : Jan. 20, 2023 8:44 am
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Brady is worth hundreds of millions of dollars and has a few mansions throughout the country 

 
Posted : Jan. 20, 2023 9:57 am
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Posted by: @buccaneernw

Kyle Trask does not have the arm or the mobility of any of the top QBs in the league. He just doesn't. 

I imagine we'll see, eventually, if he has the talent to be an NFL starting QB. However, your opinion of his arm flies in the face of most evaluations. Below is from NFL.com after the combine:

-Trask clearly has the arm strength, touch and placement to wear out one-on-one coverage...
-He's very good at finding his throwing platform and can deliver deep throws with outstanding touch
-Arm strength to whip field-side deep outs with no issues
-Talented downfield passer with touch and accuracy
-Can attack one-on-ones and place deep throw where it needs to go

Walter Football
-Quality Arm

I could provide more, but you get the idea. There may be some knocks on his talent, but his arm is not one of them.

 
Posted : Jan. 20, 2023 5:32 pm
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Although no one seems to have any idea where Brady might end up next season, Julian Edelman did offer a prediction on where Brady WON'T be landing. During this week's episode of "Inside the NFL," which airs exclusively on Paramount+, the former Patriots receiver said there's no way Brady is going to return to the place where he's spent the past three years. 

"If he has another season, it's not going to be in Tampa Bay," Edelman said. 

 
Posted : Jan. 20, 2023 5:33 pm
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Ummm

Exclusive: Tom Brady has rented a luxury apartment near Miami Beach for over 70 thousand dollars per month as of the 1st of January, per sources.

Brady signed the lease pre-playoffs.

So? I think he was living in Miami before this past season. It's not a surprise that he is renting an apartment there. His kids live in Miami. That has no direct bearing on, or is any indication of whether he could play in Tampa next year. He can afford several homes.

Frankly, it's time to move on and operate as if he's not coming back. If he decides to return to Tampa for one more year, and they haven't found a new QB yet, then I hope he's in a better headspace.

 

 
Posted : Jan. 20, 2023 5:57 pm
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I could provide more, but you get the idea. There may be some knocks on his talent, but his arm is not one of them.

I could find other reports that say his arm isn't that great. He does have good touch and accuracy, I'll agree with that. But he doesn't have a cannon. I saw some of his downfield throws in preseason that just looked like they didn't have the velocity to get there. I also recall scouting reports that said his release was a bit slow. And then there's his footspeed and mobility which are below average. He is not in the same league with guys like Josh Allen or Joe Burrow. Very average. Potentially a capable starter who will probably be the guy you're always looking to replace.

 

 
Posted : Jan. 20, 2023 6:05 pm
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Posted by: @pennywise

Although no one seems to have any idea where Brady might end up next season, Julian Edelman did offer a prediction on where Brady WON'T be landing. During this week's episode of "Inside the NFL," which airs exclusively on Paramount+, the former Patriots receiver said there's no way Brady is going to return to the place where he's spent the past three years. 

"If he has another season, it's not going to be in Tampa Bay," Edelman said. 

If Brady decides to play another season, it won’t be in TB. IMHO I don’t think he respects Bowles as HC. I think he should move to the broadcast booth anyway. 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 20, 2023 8:31 pm
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