We have Hurts drafted in the 2nd round, Mahomes was drafted 12th or 10th, something like that. And of course Mr. Irrelevant in SF. So there is hope that you can score a QB somewhere other than the top 5
And, most importantly, what do all 3 of those QB's have in common with each other aside from draft status?
Mobility. Mahomes lost his mobility and the Chiefs lost about six points to the spread. Or gained. Whichever.
They will be moving on from Brady for sure. But that does not mean he will retire. Wonder if they will have Kyle T having to compete with possibly a veteran QB to be signed/traded?!
We have Hurts drafted in the 2nd round, Mahomes was drafted 12th or 10th, something like that. And of course Mr. Irrelevant in SF. So there is hope that you can score a QB somewhere other than the top 5
And, most importantly, what do all 3 of those QB's have in common with each other aside from draft status?
Mobility. Mahomes lost his mobility and the Chiefs lost about six points to the spread. Or gained. Whichever.
Their offensive-minded coaches.
Agreed. My immediate thought was superior coaching, especially in KC and SF.
Drafting a QB with a defensive minded HC is not the way to go. Especially since Bowles is on the hot seat heading into year 2. Plus, Trask is on a cheap rookie deal and the team likes Gabbert as a backup.
All signs point towards pouring draft resources fixing the OL, and front seven of the defense. Bucs are going to dip their toes to find a veteran QB, TE and CB via UFA IMO.
Don’t want Richardson. UF QBs don’t translate.
don’t want stroud. See: UF qbs
im all in on hooker myself.
but anyone but trask tbh.
but anyone but trask tbh.
I'm sure Patriots fans said the same thing when Bledsoe got hurt. How about we let the guy actually play with the starters before passing judgement? It would seem the prudent thing to do.
@bucharbour if trask can’t even be 2nd string over gabbert that’s enough for me to say he’s not a franchise qb.
he’ll get a shot next year.
im all for getting a top 10 pick.
Trask I think has potential in an offense tailored to his strengths. The problem I have is that the Bucs used to have a good OL and that is no longer the case. Have to rebuild the OL for a player like Trask to succeed at least at a NFL average level.
Personally I do not see Bowles having the luxury to let Trask learn and fully develop by 2024 IMO.
There is a possibility that the Glazers are okay with a step back in 2023 on the condition that Trask or a drafted QB is integrated and allowed to learn on the fly.
We have Hurts drafted in the 2nd round, Mahomes was drafted 12th or 10th, something like that. And of course Mr. Irrelevant in SF. So there is hope that you can score a QB somewhere other than the top 5
And, most importantly, what do all 3 of those QB's have in common with each other aside from draft status?
offensive head coaches?
@bucharbour if trask can’t even be 2nd string over gabbert that’s enough for me to say he’s not a franchise qb.
he’ll get a shot next year.
im all for getting a top 10 pick.
Gabbert is the love child of the offensive staff that is mostly gone now. Based on the stupidity I heard from Claud Christensen (the guy that basically got Dungy fired for continuing the tradition of suck offense - and, yes, I know his name is Clyde, but many called him Claud during his reign of offensive coordinator terror), stating he was methodically slow at learning the offense. He picked up the Gators offense very fast (as Mullen recounted) and yet I'm supposed to believe anything coming out of the former QB coaches' mouth? Nope. Our offense was a complicated one that required being on the same page with the receivers, which is why so many QB's struggled to run it in their first years, including Brady, who didn't look the greatest running it until around the Bye week of 2020. Gabbert being in front of him tells me the guys running the offense were clueless morons who don't know how to develop a QB properly. It was one thing to sit him during 2021. Last year was inexcusable. He should have been the guy getting all of the back-up reps to practice running this offense.
We'll see what the next OC has to say about the situation. /begin sarc - It's not like the guy had per game numbers similar to Burrow, or anything. - /end sarc
@bucharbour if trask can’t even be 2nd string over gabbert that’s enough for me to say he’s not a franchise qb.
he’ll get a shot next year.
im all for getting a top 10 pick.
Gabbert is the love child of the offensive staff that is mostly gone now. Based on the stupidity I heard from Claud Christensen (the guy that basically got Dungy fired for continuing the tradition of suck offense - and, yes, I know his name is Clyde, but many called him Claud during his reign of offensive coordinator terror), stating he was methodically slow at learning the offense. He picked up the Gators offense very fast (as Mullen recounted) and yet I'm supposed to believe anything coming out of the former QB coaches' mouth? Nope. Our offense was a complicated one that required being on the same page with the receivers, which is why so many QB's struggled to run it in their first years, including Brady, who didn't look the greatest running it until around the Bye week of 2020. Gabbert being in front of him tells me the guys running the offense were clueless morons who don't know how to develop a QB properly. It was one thing to sit him during 2021. Last year was inexcusable. He should have been the guy getting all of the back-up reps to practice running this offense.
We'll see what the next OC has to say about the situation. /begin sarc - It's not like the guy had per game numbers similar to Burrow, or anything. - /end sarc
Great post!
Don’t want Richardson. UF QBs don’t translate.
don’t want stroud. See: UF qbs
Congrats to CJ Stroud on one helluva season and winning the Offensive Rookie of the Year award. Not sure how he pulled that off, being from Ohio State and all.
Don’t want Richardson. UF QBs don’t translate.
don’t want stroud. See: UF qbs
Congrats to CJ Stroud on one helluva season and winning the Offensive Rookie of the Year award. Not sure how he pulled that off, being from Ohio State and all.
This warmed my cold Buckeye heart.
this thread…not so much.
I think much was learned about team dynamics. Things change quickly in the NFL. You once had a superior o/line built to protect a drop back passer. You lose the passer, your all-world center goes down to a hideous injury, you flip your stellar RT to LT, your guard moves to RT, replace your OC - and steal a cheap mobile, incredible but undervalued QB FA, and viola, you’re competitive.
Lots of things have to align for all that to happen, mostly your GM/HC have know what they have, what is needed, and be on the same page enough to take a chance on some key pieces.
Oh yeah, and that science-y stuff that is indistinguishable from luck…you need some of that, too