The problem with that list is he's had to go back almost 50 years to Nameth just to find 10 guys and then a whole bunch of them showed enough potential in college that they went in the high 1st round, we have a guy who played bad (but had a nice stat line) who showed enough potential in college to be considered areach in round 3, slight difference.Also notice how the guys on that list are from 2005 or before, where's the guy who stuggled in the new flag football version of the NFL, since the rule changes and offenses have been running roughshod over defenses?If you don't/can't show you have IT right away with the new rules ("Tackling an offensive player, #52, 15 yard penalty & automatic first down. #52 is also ejected from the game!") the chances are insanely high that you simply don't have IT.
Here you go pumpkin -Mike Glennon vs. rookies/1st year in league from 1998-2013 with at least 10 games started -QBR: Glennon ranked 6th
YPG: Glennon ranked 13th
Completion%: Glennon ranked 10th
Touchdowns: Glennon ranked 7th
Lovies is a Glennon homer, so much so he must not really remember what football was like during some of those guys rookie years. Ohhh yay, Glennon was the QB behind a terrible offense. All of those stats were very average, but the eyeball test tells you what you need to know about Glennon.
Lovies is a Glennon homer, so much so he must not really remember what football was like during some of those guys rookie years. Ohhh yay, Glennon was the QB behind a terrible offense. All of those stats were very average, but the eyeball test tells you what you need to know about Glennon.
When people can't back up their argument with stats they go to the eye test thing. In that case what makes you more knowledgeable than other people? Where's your background in dissecting QB's after their 1st year? I'm guessing you have none whatsoever. Anyways you can get back hutt about the stats all you want, but they show Glennon is on par with the other rookies and was better than some QB's who are considered good right now. WAHHHHHHH the stats don't back up your argument WAHHHHHHHH
Lovies is a Glennon homer, so much so he must not really remember what football was like during some of those guys rookie years. Ohhh yay, Glennon was the QB behind a terrible offense. All of those stats were very average, but the eyeball test tells you what you need to know about Glennon.
When people can't back up their argument with stats they go to the eye test thing. In that case what makes you more knowledgeable than other people? Where's your background in dissecting QB's after their 1st year? I'm guessing you have none whatsoever. Anyways you can get back hutt about the stats all you want, but they show Glennon is on par with the other rookies and was better than some QB's who are considered good right now. WAHHHHHHH the stats don't back up your argument WAHHHHHHHH
Again different era for most of those QB's. What you need to do is really watch his games, watch the missed wide open receivers, watch his quick checkdowns, watch him not throwing to NFL open guys. Stats can always be massaged, but Peyton Manning in his rookie year was 10 times better than Glennon will ever be. I know it pains you to hear the truth, but your guy just isn't a winning NFL QB. Good thing is for the rest of Buc fans the guy who fawned over him and promised him the QB position next year is gone. Glennon will make for a VERY good back up QB in this league. He's a nice guy, but you don't want him starting 16 games for you, unless of course you want to lose A LOT of games.
Lovies is a Glennon homer, so much so he must not really remember what football was like during some of those guys rookie years. Ohhh yay, Glennon was the QB behind a terrible offense. All of those stats were very average, but the eyeball test tells you what you need to know about Glennon.
When people can't back up their argument with stats they go to the eye test thing. In that case what makes you more knowledgeable than other people? Where's your background in dissecting QB's after their 1st year? I'm guessing you have none whatsoever. Anyways you can get back hutt about the stats all you want, but they show Glennon is on par with the other rookies and was better than some QB's who are considered good right now. WAHHHHHHH the stats don't back up your argument WAHHHHHHHH
Again different era for most of those QB's. What you need to do is really watch his games, watch the missed wide open receivers, watch his quick checkdowns, watch him not throwing to NFL open guys. Stats can always be massaged, but Peyton Manning in his rookie year was 10 times better than Glennon will ever be. I know it pains you to hear the truth, but your guy just isn't a winning NFL QB. Good thing is for the rest of Buc fans the guy who fawned over him and promised him the QB position next year is gone. Glennon will make for a VERY good back up QB in this league. He's a nice guy, but you don't want him starting 16 games for you, unless of course you want to lose A LOT of games.
So Glennon played in different eras than Ryan, Flacco, Tannehill, Dalton, Stafford, Newton, RGIII, Wilson, G.Smith, Manuel, Bradford, etc. etc.? Oh wait, they didn't play in different eras. All I see you doing is :'( because you don't like how his stats are comparable to those guys rookie seasons. :'( some more for me sweetie :'(
Lovies is a Glennon homer, so much so he must not really remember what football was like during some of those guys rookie years. Ohhh yay, Glennon was the QB behind a terrible offense. All of those stats were very average, but the eyeball test tells you what you need to know about Glennon.
When people can't back up their argument with stats they go to the eye test thing. In that case what makes you more knowledgeable than other people? Where's your background in dissecting QB's after their 1st year? I'm guessing you have none whatsoever. Anyways you can get back hutt about the stats all you want, but they show Glennon is on par with the other rookies and was better than some QB's who are considered good right now. WAHHHHHHH the stats don't back up your argument WAHHHHHHHH
Again different era for most of those QB's. What you need to do is really watch his games, watch the missed wide open receivers, watch his quick checkdowns, watch him not throwing to NFL open guys. Stats can always be massaged, but Peyton Manning in his rookie year was 10 times better than Glennon will ever be. I know it pains you to hear the truth, but your guy just isn't a winning NFL QB. Good thing is for the rest of Buc fans the guy who fawned over him and promised him the QB position next year is gone. Glennon will make for a VERY good back up QB in this league. He's a nice guy, but you don't want him starting 16 games for you, unless of course you want to lose A LOT of games.
So Glennon played in different eras than Ryan, Flacco, Tannehill, Dalton, Stafford, Newton, RGIII, Wilson, G.Smith, Manuel, Bradford, etc. etc.? Oh wait, they didn't play in different eras. All I see you doing is :'( because you don't like how his stats are comparable to those guys rookie seasons. :'( some more for me sweetie :'(
Played in a very different era than Flacco, Ryan, Stafford, Newton and Bradford? Yes. Glennon played it safe because he knows he can't make the NFL throws that need to be made. Go look at Yards per attempt it was very low. Your stats garbage argument would work on someone who didn't watch a down of Tampa Bay Buccaneers football in 2014, but not for us that watched it. Watch my signature for the true Glennon at work....
Lovies is a Glennon homer, so much so he must not really remember what football was like during some of those guys rookie years. Ohhh yay, Glennon was the QB behind a terrible offense. All of those stats were very average, but the eyeball test tells you what you need to know about Glennon.
When people can't back up their argument with stats they go to the eye test thing. In that case what makes you more knowledgeable than other people? Where's your background in dissecting QB's after their 1st year? I'm guessing you have none whatsoever. Anyways you can get back hutt about the stats all you want, but they show Glennon is on par with the other rookies and was better than some QB's who are considered good right now. WAHHHHHHH the stats don't back up your argument WAHHHHHHHH
Again different era for most of those QB's. What you need to do is really watch his games, watch the missed wide open receivers, watch his quick checkdowns, watch him not throwing to NFL open guys. Stats can always be massaged, but Peyton Manning in his rookie year was 10 times better than Glennon will ever be. I know it pains you to hear the truth, but your guy just isn't a winning NFL QB. Good thing is for the rest of Buc fans the guy who fawned over him and promised him the QB position next year is gone. Glennon will make for a VERY good back up QB in this league. He's a nice guy, but you don't want him starting 16 games for you, unless of course you want to lose A LOT of games.
So Glennon played in different eras than Ryan, Flacco, Tannehill, Dalton, Stafford, Newton, RGIII, Wilson, G.Smith, Manuel, Bradford, etc. etc.? Oh wait, they didn't play in different eras. All I see you doing is :'( because you don't like how his stats are comparable to those guys rookie seasons. :'( some more for me sweetie :'(
Played in a very different era than Flacco, Ryan, Stafford, Newton and Bradford? Yes. Glennon played it safe because he knows he can't make the NFL throws that need to be made. Go look at Yards per attempt it was very low. Your stats garbage argument would work on someone who didn't watch a down of Tampa Bay Buccaneers football in 2014, but not for us that watched it. Watch my signature for the true Glennon at work....
Whatever helps you sleep at night. You're so stupid it blows my mind. Newton was drafted in 2011. So the league is a different era in 2 years? lmfao.
Post concussion lawsuit my friend....
Post concussion lawsuit my friend....
Okay so rookie seasons before that don't count, gotcha.
Post concussion lawsuit my friend....
Okay so rookie seasons before that don't count, gotcha.
Different era. Reading comprehension is your friend. Your opinion (not based on facts) is that Glennon is a superstar stud Superbowl winning QB. My opinion (stated with facts) is that Glennon is a career back up. We will just agree to disagree.
Post concussion lawsuit my friend....
Okay so rookie seasons before that don't count, gotcha.
Different era. Reading comprehension is your friend. Your opinion (not based on facts) is that Glennon is a superstar stud Superbowl winning QB. My opinion (stated with facts) is that Glennon is a career back up. We will just agree to disagree.
Facts? LOL just because you say something is a different era doesn't make it a fact. A fact is solid and concrete. Kind of like those stats I posted. Maybe you should learn the definition of a fact.
Post concussion lawsuit my friend....
Okay so rookie seasons before that don't count, gotcha.
Different era. Reading comprehension is your friend. Your opinion (not based on facts) is that Glennon is a superstar stud Superbowl winning QB. My opinion (stated with facts) is that Glennon is a career back up. We will just agree to disagree.
Facts? LOL just because you say something is a different era doesn't make it a fact. A fact is solid and concrete. Kind of like those stats I posted. Maybe you should learn the definition of a fact.
Those stats aren't "concrete". He is lucky he played in the era when you can't hit QB's or WR's. The ONLY defense for Glennon is that he was stuck with Schiano as his coach.
Post concussion lawsuit my friend....
Okay so rookie seasons before that don't count, gotcha.
Different era. Reading comprehension is your friend. Your opinion (not based on facts) is that Glennon is a superstar stud Superbowl winning QB. My opinion (stated with facts) is that Glennon is a career back up. We will just agree to disagree.
Facts? LOL just because you say something is a different era doesn't make it a fact. A fact is solid and concrete. Kind of like those stats I posted. Maybe you should learn the definition of a fact.
Those stats aren't "concrete". He is lucky he played in the era when you can't hit QB's or WR's. The ONLY defense for Glennon is that he was stuck with Schiano as his coach.
Those rookie stats are not concrete? Wow you are dumber than I gave you credit for. Apparently those rookie stats are subject to change... HAHAHAHA. I'm dead from laughing. Stats are now not facts or concrete facts. They are illusions they will change over time. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Well I live in an underground bunker below Tom Brady's house. Plus I have five rental properties in Florida, not three. So I really know I'm talking about. And I say Glennon will get his chance to show us what he's made of.
;D :) ;D ;D :) I was reading all that stuff this "TakeThat" guy was posting about rentals/ salary/ raises, and thinking what does this all have to do with how Mike Glennon will turn out as an NFL QB. I'm still waiting for that guy to give supporting reasons as to why Mike will fail. He seems to put down everyone's points for possible success, but fails to support his opinion.
If you want to be slapped down just ask. Glennon sure looks like a Charlie Batch if you want to look at the stats as most people do. As has been said before you can find stats to prove or disprove almost any stance with players in the NFL. Cherry picking is great but people need to leave that for real life not a debate on the internet.
Well I live in an underground bunker below Tom Brady's house. Plus I have five rental properties in Florida, not three. So I really know I'm talking about. And I say Glennon will get his chance to show us what he's made of.
;D :) ;D ;D :) I was reading all that stuff this "TakeThat" guy was posting about rentals/ salary/ raises, and thinking what does this all have to do with how Mike Glennon will turn out as an NFL QB. I'm still waiting for that guy to give supporting reasons as to why Mike will fail. He seems to put down everyone's points for possible success, but fails to support his opinion.
If you want to be slapped down just ask. Glennon sure looks like a Charlie Batch if you want to look at the stats as most people do. As has been said before you can find stats to prove or disprove almost any stance with players in the NFL. Cherry picking is great but people need to leave that for real life not a debate on the internet.
Those stats don't even make sense. Glennon's QB rating was 83.9 and he is magically not apart of that list. Hmm how strange. How about you take a look at the real stats I posted above, smart guy.
