It's not the word, it's the use of the word. It's the fact that people often use the word thug to side step the "n" word. The harm is the use and intent, not the definition.
It must be a Southern thing. It isn't offensives at all in New England here. It means what the dictionary say it means and it's used that way.
Its not a Southern thing...or at least not just a Southern thing. Although I use the term, its not a replacement for the "n" word...its used when I am describing someone who dresses and acts like a thug. I use it for white, black, and brown people just the same...so its not a replacement when its an accurate depiction of someone's appearance.
Left field for $200 Alex. We're talking about using it as the 'n' word. My reply was direct at that. Everyone uses the word like you describe but we're not talking about that. I'll say it again but spell it out in black and white this time. Using 'thug' to mean the 'n' word must be a Southern thing. It isn't offensives at all in New England here. It means what the dictionary say it means and it's used that way. (Hopefully that's clear)
No...it was perfectly clear the first time...and while I wont say it doesnt happen here I know it happens everywhere, even up in the New England area. I travel a lot for work and have heard that connotation everywhere...but it is also not always easy to tell when it is being used in place of another word and when it is accurately describing someone.
What's hard about figuring out if they are referring to a criminal/gangster and/or crime and violence or not. Simple stuff! FYI: I'd suggest playing the lottery as you have the same odds of either happening here. :)
When all else fails...
I don't disagree that its become the 2010's version of the N-word. The N-word can be used on anyone, not just black folks - but it was turned into that. Thug seems to be going that route. Of course, I think it's racist to say "Oh he's so well spoken" or "He's very intelligent and graduated from Stanford University" as if it's an amazing feat that a black man with dreads actually has a brain and did well in school. But that's just me. People are people. We're all different and when we're doing just general characterizations it's just plain silly. No one knows Richard Sherman except for his family and closest friends. Yet many feel they are capable of judging him on a few minutes of video at the end of an emotional and hard fought football game. Frankly, I liked it because it beats Peyton's boring "We respect the Patriots, they're a great organization..." or thanking God for taking interest in the outcome of a football game.Â
It's not the word, it's the use of the word. It's the fact that people often use the word thug to side step the "n" word. The harm is the use and intent, not the definition.
It must be a Southern thing. It isn't offensives at all in New England here. It means what the dictionary say it means and it's used that way.
Its not a Southern thing...or at least not just a Southern thing. Although I use the term, its not a replacement for the "n" word...its used when I am describing someone who dresses and acts like a thug. I use it for white, black, and brown people just the same...so its not a replacement when its an accurate depiction of someone's appearance.
Left field for $200 Alex. We're talking about using it as the 'n' word. My reply was direct at that. Everyone uses the word like you describe but we're not talking about that. I'll say it again but spell it out in black and white this time. Using 'thug' to mean the 'n' word must be a Southern thing. It isn't offensives at all in New England here. It means what the dictionary say it means and it's used that way. (Hopefully that's clear)
No...it was perfectly clear the first time...and while I wont say it doesnt happen here I know it happens everywhere, even up in the New England area. I travel a lot for work and have heard that connotation everywhere...but it is also not always easy to tell when it is being used in place of another word and when it is accurately describing someone.
What's hard about figuring out if they are referring to a criminal/gangster and/or crime and violence or not. Simple stuff! FYI: I'd suggest playing the lottery as you have the same odds of either happening here. :)
I guess Im not the mind reader you are my friend. I have a hard enough time figuring out what my woman is really meaning when she says things...I don't have the energy to decipher what others may or may not be inferring with their speech. Does it probably happen? Sure. Is it limited to the south? Absolutely not. Oddly enough, with all my travels, the most racially prejudiced people I have run into were from Iowa. Cant explain it and doubt it was indicative of that state, but that was my experience.
It's not the word, it's the use of the word. It's the fact that people often use the word thug to side step the "n" word. The harm is the use and intent, not the definition.
It must be a Southern thing. It isn't offensives at all in New England here. It means what the dictionary say it means and it's used that way.
Its not a Southern thing...or at least not just a Southern thing. Although I use the term, its not a replacement for the "n" word...its used when I am describing someone who dresses and acts like a thug. I use it for white, black, and brown people just the same...so its not a replacement when its an accurate depiction of someone's appearance.
Left field for $200 Alex. We're talking about using it as the 'n' word. My reply was direct at that. Everyone uses the word like you describe but we're not talking about that. I'll say it again but spell it out in black and white this time. Using 'thug' to mean the 'n' word must be a Southern thing. It isn't offensives at all in New England here. It means what the dictionary say it means and it's used that way. (Hopefully that's clear)
No...it was perfectly clear the first time...and while I wont say it doesnt happen here I know it happens everywhere, even up in the New England area. I travel a lot for work and have heard that connotation everywhere...but it is also not always easy to tell when it is being used in place of another word and when it is accurately describing someone.
What's hard about figuring out if they are referring to a criminal/gangster and/or crime and violence or not. Simple stuff! FYI: I'd suggest playing the lottery as you have the same odds of either happening here. :)
I guess Im not the mind reader you are my friend. I have a hard enough time figuring out what my woman is really meaning when she says things...I don't have the energy to decipher what others may or may not be inferring with their speech. Does it probably happen? Sure. Is it limited to the south? Absolutely not. Oddly enough, with all my travels, the most racially prejudiced people I have run into were from Iowa. Cant explain it and doubt it was indicative of that state, but that was my experience.
You don't need to be a mind reader just have basic comprehension and listening skills. Context is everything. As for woman communication I'd suggest you take a sign language class as well. You'd be shocked to learn body language is a huge part of that. Woman say 1/2 their stuff with body language so if you can't read that you're screwed from the start.
It's not the word, it's the use of the word. It's the fact that people often use the word thug to side step the "n" word. The harm is the use and intent, not the definition.
It must be a Southern thing. It isn't offensives at all in New England here. It means what the dictionary say it means and it's used that way.
Its not a Southern thing...or at least not just a Southern thing. Although I use the term, its not a replacement for the "n" word...its used when I am describing someone who dresses and acts like a thug. I use it for white, black, and brown people just the same...so its not a replacement when its an accurate depiction of someone's appearance.
Left field for $200 Alex. We're talking about using it as the 'n' word. My reply was direct at that. Everyone uses the word like you describe but we're not talking about that. I'll say it again but spell it out in black and white this time. Using 'thug' to mean the 'n' word must be a Southern thing. It isn't offensives at all in New England here. It means what the dictionary say it means and it's used that way. (Hopefully that's clear)
No...it was perfectly clear the first time...and while I wont say it doesnt happen here I know it happens everywhere, even up in the New England area. I travel a lot for work and have heard that connotation everywhere...but it is also not always easy to tell when it is being used in place of another word and when it is accurately describing someone.
What's hard about figuring out if they are referring to a criminal/gangster and/or crime and violence or not. Simple stuff! FYI: I'd suggest playing the lottery as you have the same odds of either happening here. :)
I guess Im not the mind reader you are my friend. I have a hard enough time figuring out what my woman is really meaning when she says things...I don't have the energy to decipher what others may or may not be inferring with their speech. Does it probably happen? Sure. Is it limited to the south? Absolutely not. Oddly enough, with all my travels, the most racially prejudiced people I have run into were from Iowa. Cant explain it and doubt it was indicative of that state, but that was my experience.
You don't need to be a mind reader just have basic comprehension and listening skills. Context is everything. As for woman communication I'd suggest you take a sign language class as well. You'd be shocked to learn body language is a huge part of that. Woman say 1/2 their stuff with body language so if you can't read that you're screwed from the start.
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I think Sherman hit the nail on the head. It can be danced around forever. But the word thug, I have not heard used once in 4 days? In talks about the hockey game from earlier this week. I don't think he pulled the race card, as much as he was hit with it. If the hockey fight scene unfolded on the basketball court between the Knicks and Nets, thug would be mentioned on Sportscenter for the next two weeks. As it pertains to the hockey game...I'm still waiting.
"Thug" in its current usage refers to a lifestyle; it has nothing to do with race
Gotta love Northerners telling us "Southerners" what we really mean.
"Thug" in its current usage refers to a lifestyle; it has nothing to do with race
And the manner in which they behave and present themselves.Personally I think that Sherman was classless and idiotic, but not "thuggish".
Gotta love Northerners telling us "Southerners" what we really mean.
Bingo. Must be the jealousy of being able to drink a large soda.
Gotta love Northerners telling us "Southerners" what we really mean.
Who's doing that? I'm a Southern born and raised person for over 25 years. I've been in the North for 6 years now but I own 3 rentals in the Tampa area and visit often. You're damn right I'll tell him how it is in reality. Valiant effort there though! :)
Anyone can be a thug if they put their mind to it!
Its not always but it can be. A brash, outspoken person like Sherman is referred to as a thug because of his outburst. People here seem to live in denial but you all are but a fraction of what the real reaction was. Social media had a field day with other racial slurs other than thug. Point blank period he was referred to as a thug because he was at that moment "the angry black man". Now let's take Riley Cooper. Cooper was filmed being rather aggressive and using a word seen as a racial slur. Was he referred to as a thug? I've already mentioned this but Tom Brady cursing at and running after refs because he didn't like their decision. Was he referred to as a thug? Ben Roethlisberger. Where to begin? How many called him a thug? It seems that if you're black and outspoken and sort of go against the grain you're a thug but people say it's only so because of the way you act. White people naively and rather defensively run to the conclusion that "look, their playing the race card again". That's not the case at all. It rather demeans the group of individuals in question because the reality is on a lot of levels there is racism there. Sad reality is they will always see if as playing the race card because most whites want to believe that racism doesn't exist because they themselves are not racist. Sweeping the issue under the rug is part of the reason we still have situations like this. Because race talk is such a sensitive subject in this country because of our history.