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There are articles saying Dean is a post-draft cut candidate? 

 

Not sure about that, but assuming he stays do we see a career year for him BECAUSE he's playing for $ and has some competition?

That would be great news. In the Commander playoff game he and McCollum did a pretty good job containing McLaurin. I think McLaurin had one deep pass early on Dean, but then Dean also had an endzone stop.

He can play when he's healthy and when he wants to ($$$)

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 9:56 am
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Not sure why we would cut him unless we needed his money for another big move 

we seem pretty set on offense. There’s a few edge guys still out there but honestly I think we should keep dean. 

if anything the two draft picks make McCollum replaceable in the offseason when he is looking for a new contract 

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 10:37 am
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Zero chance we cut him. Hes slated to start, we’re a BETTER team when he plays (check our record with him out last year) and we have lots of guys around him either coming back from injury or unproven. Last year secondary was a triage unit. We don’t need to make it thinner back there 

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 11:40 am
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

if anything the two draft picks make McCollum replaceable

Wrong

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 12:10 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

Not sure about that, but assuming he stays do we see a career year for him BECAUSE he's playing for $ and has some competition?

Not sure about a career year, but he’s got to know he’ll be hitting FA regardless of how well he plays. 

So, he should be well motivated and incentivized. 

And, with an infusion of young talent in the secondary, Bowles has ZERO excuses not to play Dean the way he should be (press, man). 

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 12:13 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

Not sure about that, but assuming he stays do we see a career year for him BECAUSE he's playing for $ and has some competition?

Not sure about a career year, but he’s got to know he’ll be hitting FA regardless of how well he plays. 

So, he should be well motivated and incentivized. 

And, with an infusion of young talent in the secondary, Bowles has ZERO excuses not to play Dean the way he should be (press, man). 

while it's more likely we get more of the same with Dean, penciled in for 4 games missed; if he does have a career year, why would the Bucs move on from his cap hit in 2026?  Just let him play it out his final year particularly if playing a pro bowl level?

now, i think most of us were surprised to see Dean still on the roster and not a repeat of the Carlton Davis fate a year ago but now that he is here and we dont need his funds for anything else, we should definitely keep him this year

you mentioned "wrong" from a Bucs potentially not resigning McCollum next year and from a youth perspective would agree that Zyon over Dean makes more sense but with Morrison and Parrish in the fold, one would think one of McCollum or Dean is gone next year and Dean likely the better CB particularly if he improves in this hypothetical thread. 

PFF graded McCollum 54th out of 222 eligible CBS whereas Jamel Dean graded 26th.

to throw 16-20M at Zyon?  i dont know.  let's see how he does this year. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 12:29 pm
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Bowles has ZERO excuses not to play Dean the way he should be (press, man). 

In the Commanders playoff game Dean is in press man in the 1st quarter when he gives up a 35 yard pass to McLaurin.  if you wnat to see him WHIFF on Mcl,aurin at the line, its right here

https://www.nfl.com/games/commanders-at-buccaneers-2024-post-1?active-tab=watch

Two series later, McCollum is in press man against McLaurin and he almost picks the ball off, forcing a field goal.

A couple series later (beginning of the 3rd quarter,) Dean is again in press man when he knocks down a TD pass thrown to McLaurin

The very next series, Dean is again in press man BUT gives MCLaurin a free exit at the line and a completion for 17 yards and, of course, is INJURED

The next series, Hayes is in for an injured Dean and he gives up a TD to McLaurin. Hayes is playing OFF coverage standing in our EZ lol

 

 

its almost like injuries matter . . 

 

 

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 12:44 pm
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Dean likely the better CB particularly if he improves in this hypothetical thread. 

I would love for Dean to be a reliable, hard working polayer, but he seems the opposite and if he balled out this season that might sort of prove it. 

 

I think Dean is playing for his next contract, but it may not be with the Bucs?

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 12:49 pm
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its almost like injuries matter . . 

It’s almost like I said…”with an infusion of young talent in the secondary”

 

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 2:21 pm
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It's possible they'll throw Morrison right into the fire.  Winfield has started every game from Day 1.  He was a 2nd round pick like Morrison.  But with depth problems always lurking, whats the rush to dump Dean?  If he was that horrible he'd already be gone.  Morrison hasn't stepped foot on the Bucs practice field.  I don't think he's going to be annointed starter just for being drafted.  He'll have to earn it in the preseason. Do people not remember how many injuries we had on the defense last year? 

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Posted : May. 6, 2025 5:15 pm
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whats the rush to dump Dean

I am not a fan for the reason I have mentioned, but no hurry to dump him. Far from it.  Looking forward to him having a career year

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 5:22 pm
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Not a fan of Dean, too many injuries keep him out of the lineup, too often. His lack of interceptions are a concern, but maybe that’s scheme related. For some reason I have this idea that he has some injuries after giving up some big yardage.., but maybe that’s just me blaming the player.

He’d be a great transition player - his best days may be behind him, but getting him a rotational role may keep him fresh, and injury free. He knows the defense and has been a contributor in the past, maybe he’s just been playing banged up too often.

If Morrison won’t be ready for a few games, Dean would be a nice placeholder/transition player at this stage of his career. 

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 6:03 pm
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Bowles has ZERO excuses not to play Dean the way he should be (press, man). 

In the Commanders playoff game Dean is in press man in the 1st quarter when he gives up a 35 yard pass to McLaurin.  if you wnat to see him WHIFF on Mcl,aurin at the line, its right here

https://www.nfl.com/games/commanders-at-buccaneers-2024-post-1?active-tab=watch

Two series later, McCollum is in press man against McLaurin and he almost picks the ball off, forcing a field goal.

A couple series later (beginning of the 3rd quarter,) Dean is again in press man when he knocks down a TD pass thrown to McLaurin

The very next series, Dean is again in press man BUT gives MCLaurin a free exit at the line and a completion for 17 yards and, of course, is INJURED

The next series, Hayes is in for an injured Dean and he gives up a TD to McLaurin. Hayes is playing OFF coverage standing in our EZ lol

 

 

its almost like injuries matter . . 

 

 

All fair points but you gotta keep your players where they play well and best suited even if they fail at times.

Press is aggressive so that comes with the territory.

I still want us in press and I don't wanna see all the obvious blitzes again. 

I'd also like to see is is press then switch to zone to disguise. 

 

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 7:14 pm
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Posted by: @catherder

whats the rush to dump Dean

I am not a fan for the reason I have mentioned, but no hurry to dump him. Far from it.  Looking forward to him having a career year

Don't hold your breath. If he plays well he WILL get hurt.

We have great CB depth now so hopefully we keep him fresh. 

 

 
Posted : May. 6, 2025 7:15 pm
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. If he plays well he WILL get hurt.

one reason I am not a fan lol

 
Posted : May. 7, 2025 10:05 am
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