...and what about kurt warner's slow son from same school??
Did someone Lose a Bet??
Why we gettin' these SCRUBS?!! Warner's son will be sacking groceries by Week 4
This pick just makes zero sense... this should have been udfa or 7th rd
If the coaches saw a place for him on the D and felt he had the best chance to contribute out of the remaining available safety/5, why not draft him where they did? They saw some upside with his physicality against the run, and some chance to become a nickel and backup safety. They didn't have a 7th rounder and apparently didn't want to risk losing him by waiting until UDFA. I have no problem with this pick if the guy sticks. The Bucs have a different approach from some teams. They have a much shorter draftable players list, so when they see one of their guys, they get 'em. They worry less about how the player may grade out on other people's boards and more about finding a fit for their team. Given the need at safety/5 they thought he was a fit. Quibbling about 6th round picks... I mean, really? That late in the draft, you're looking for sleepers with traits that fit how you want to play and skills that can be developed.
...and what about kurt warner's slow son from same school??
Did someone Lose a Bet??
Why we gettin' these SCRUBS?!! Warner's son will be sacking groceries by Week 4
UDFA. Not like it costs them anything. Most of them end up as just camp meat anyway... I also remember no-name "scrubs" like Adam Humphries and Cameron Brate.
He is. because that's his job. Licht has an entire staff working full time to watch film on some dude from Backwater Technical College and a thousand other guys just like him who might possibly be able to play on special teams if they are lucky enough to make the team. Thousands of draft watchers all get their info from the same internet sources. So it's not like these thousands of draft watchers are all doing independent research and evaluations.The most WTF pick of nearly the whole draft besides that QB the Packers picked who has ranked 500th or something.
Licht thinks he's smarters then the hundreds/thousands of draft watchers who think this guy wasn't draftable.
So yes Licht knows more, especially about what the Bucs might be able to use. When the 6th round comes around you are looking for very specific skills. They are never going to be starters in the NFL. They are just going to do specific duties on special teams and sub in for a couple plays during garbage time if they are really successful. Or if they are like most they will spend most of their career on the practice squads of multiple teams waiting for callups when the injury bug bites.
larry brackins
Again... he might be a genius here but he's reaching on players that other teams won't take because HE gave up draft capital earlier to move up and reach on someone he could have had later.
He's creating his own problems and then you justify reaching on players because he doesn't have a pick on the next round?
That's so silly
This guy was destined to be an UDFA. So he's taken basically 45 picks too early.
And yes I know the later rounds are a crap shoot and you niche players but cmon...
Yaya was taken in the 3rd because we didn't have a 4th
Mauch he traded up for when he didn't have to...
He traded up later as well (the Purdue TE, right?)
I LOVE a trade up when a player drops in the draft. I HATE trading up because you got antsy about your guy... and that's his MO
Which also why I crack up that people say "could he have traded up for Creed Humphrey? You don't know that"...
That's all this MF does is trade up.
It's his bread and better. He just wanted Trask and not line depth
When the 6th round comes around you are looking for very specific skills. They are never going to be starters in the NFL.
Brady, AB, Terrell Davis, Rypien, J Kelce, Bethea, Bulger, Adalius Thomas, Matt Hasselbeck, Matt Birk, Marco Rivera, Terance Mathis, and many more say you sure know your stuff!
Lol. You never learn do you?
How about the Bucs Day 3 picks under Jason Licht? Zyon McCollum, Ko Kieft, Andre Anthony, KJ Britt, Chris Wilcox, Grant Stuard, Tyler Johnson, Khalil Davis, Chapelle Russel, Raymond Calais, Matt Gay, Scotty Miller, Terry Beckner, Justin Watson, Jack Cichy, Jeremy McNichols, Stevie Tu'ikolovatu, Devante Bond, Danny Vitale, Caleb Benenoch, Kenny Bell, Kaelin Clay, Joey Iosefa, Kadeem Edwards, Kevin Pamphile, Robert Herron.
26 picks. What did they get? Well they got some starts from Benenoch and Pamphile, both drafted early in Round 5. Gay, early Round 5 was a starting kicker, that's special teams. Those three guys drafted in the 140s. What have we gotten after pick 150? Am I saying Day 3 is a disaster? No. All you are trying to do is get some depth players who are backups and special teamers, and that's what he got. Grant Stuard, Mr. Irrelevant actually got in some games. That was an amazing pick. Scotty Miller, Justin Watson and Tyler Johnson were decent backup WRs who stuck around a couple years. Those were good picks. But you aren't getting starters in Round Six. If Licht gets a starter out of a Round Six pick it will be the first one.
But you aren't getting starters in Round Six.
And, I literally provided a list that proves you wrong.
But, by all mean Professor, keep on keepin' on...
Drafting poorly late isn't the same as late picks not being starters.
Would be better to look at the last 5 years across the league and look at all the good picks round 4-7
The Bucs have found starters in Round 4. Once you get past pick 150, which is the top of the 5th round, the Bucs haven't drafted any starters in the Licht era, almost ten years now. That's a simple fact. Does that mean no one ever will? That's not what I'm saying.Drafting poorly late isn't the same as late picks not being starters.
Would be better to look at the last 5 years across the league and look at all the good picks round 4-7
What I'm saying is that they aren't being drafted to be starters. They are being drafted to fill backup roles and play special teams. So when Bailey Adams compares Jose Ramirez to Shaq Barrett because he's the same size and then in the same paragraph lists all of Barretts accomplishments as if it's just a matter of time before Ramirez follows in Barretts footsteps.....
Bailey Adams is blowing smoke up your ass.
And Josh Quiepo says "But now, with the addition of Payne Durham, the Bucs have a true TE1-TE2 combo." So he's saying that a rookie mid 5th round pick is going to step in Year 1 and become the TE2 on this team. Problem solved.
Josh Quiepo is blowing smoke up your ass.
I remember when Tyler Johnson was going to be the next great receiver for the Bucs. He was a steal in the 5th round. What happened to him? Nothing. He was the 15th pick of the 5th round for a reason. He wasn't that great. He did what he was supposed to do and that was fill a depth role for a couple of years. That's all these guys are going to do. Now get off my lawn.
There’s the predictable backpedal.
What I'm saying is that they aren't being drafted to be starters. They are being drafted to fill backup roles and play special teams. So when Bailey Adams compares Jose Ramirez to Shaq Barrett because he's the same size and then in the same paragraph lists all of Barretts accomplishments as if it's just a matter of time before Ramirez follows in Barretts footsteps.....
Shaq Barrett was drafted in which round?
He was a UDFA. He didn't even make the opening roster his rookie season and was a practice squad guy. He did not appear in any games as a rookie.What I'm saying is that they aren't being drafted to be starters. They are being drafted to fill backup roles and play special teams. So when Bailey Adams compares Jose Ramirez to Shaq Barrett because he's the same size and then in the same paragraph lists all of Barretts accomplishments as if it's just a matter of time before Ramirez follows in Barretts footsteps.....
Shaq Barrett was drafted in which round?
We can go in circles if you like. Yes there have been occasional players who have been low draft picks who have become starters and even stars. No, Jason Licht in his nine prior drafts, has not drafted any late round starters past pick 149.
