Drafting a wr early would be like the year we took trask. Not single-handedly obviously but could’ve cost us a chance to repeat based on how we lost that Rams game.
like stated above a wr4 won’t help us this year.
Palmer developing eh I wouldn’t rely on that.
wr id consider rounds 5-7. Not before that.
What if Tet is a top 10 WR in 4 years?
What if Tet is a top 10 WR in 4 years?
Then you take him.
Shouldn’t feel pigeonholed to reach on need.
Pretty tough to find Evans eventual replacement in the 3rd round or later. If that’s the goal maybe wait until 2026
The Bucs could take any position if there’s enough value so can’t rule anything out in the draft, especially with free agency still.
yeah i am confused, we arguably have the best WR trio in the league....at least a top 10 unit no doubt.....and we have fans of the team wanting another WR
and completing agree unless you go 1st or 2nd round, it seems like it could be a waste...particularly if they are not going to get reps - Guys drafted past the 3rd round in the last several drafts - Trey Palmer, Jaelon Darden, Tyler Johnson, Scotty Miller, Justin Watson
also - can anyone name me the 4th WR on the Eagles or Bengals?
we have fans of the team wanting another WR
We need Evans replacement now but not LVD’s? How about a warm body to go next to LVD? Or behind him?
We only have 1 pick in the draft?
FA is over?
Heck, even you can agree that the defense was lacking talent last year...or maybe just managed by an unqualified coach, but either way, the defense needs improvement is one we can agree on.
so we took a flier on Haasan Reddick, David is another year older, Dean can't stay healthy, and as the Eagles showed, you can never had too much talent upfront.
I think we can also agree that areas of need ahead of WR include: DL, Edge, ILB, and CB.
we have Evan's replacement waiting in the wings already in McMillian. Godwin, presumably, should be good another 3 years. Evans, in my mind, will be good another 2 years but let's say he turns to shit this year...then why not use that 1st or 2nd round pick in 2026
using in 2025, like others have said, is alot like the Trask pick...but even worse in my mind because at least in 2021, there were no holes on this team. There are blatant holes on this team in 2025 and i'd argue that TE, OG likely the only offensive picks and meaning 1 selection that would make sense in the 2025 draft within the first 4 rounds.
Heck, even you can agree that the defense was lacking talent last year...or maybe just managed by an unqualified coach…
Both.
But, again, I want the best TALENT on the team.
Not reach for need.
We have enough draft capital to help the defense.
Not every pick needs to be defense (unless BPA dictates it).
Pretty tough to find Evans eventual replacement in the 3rd round or later. If that’s the goal maybe wait until 2026
The Bucs could take any position if there’s enough value so can’t rule anything out in the draft, especially with free agency still.
yeah i am confused, we arguably have the best WR trio in the league....at least a top 10 unit no doubt.....and we have fans of the team wanting another WR
and completing agree unless you go 1st or 2nd round, it seems like it could be a waste...particularly if they are not going to get reps - Guys drafted past the 3rd round in the last several drafts - Trey Palmer, Jaelon Darden, Tyler Johnson, Scotty Miller, Justin Watson
also - can anyone name me the 4th WR on the Eagles or Bengals?
1) The Buccaneers use three wide receiver sets 83% of the time, third most in the league. So, they essentially have three starting WRs.
2) Do you think both Evans and Godwin are going to start 17 games? Godwin may not even be healthy to start the season. We don't know. And Evans has one year left on his deal and could decide to retire - we don't know that either. If we want both of them healthy for the playoffs then we need to be able to sub in for them at times. We may be paying them a lot of money, but money doesn't change who they are - they are veteran players who will be more injury prone and will need more breaks than a younger player would.
3) Palmer is not the answer. He's borderline to even make the roster as are any of the other WRs on the team.
So for those reasons we need another WR, a younger one who can develop into an eventual #1 or #2. I'd use a 3rd or 4th rounder.
Keep in mind that @ 4pm today is the "official start of FA"....yes the legal tampering window is coming to a close, but there are lots of quality players available. I've said it before and i'll say it again. I appreciate the fact that Licht is always able to find money to be able to take care of priorities...the past few years we've had so many key players needing new contracts with lots of dead cap space and little resources, but he finds a way. I fully expect to see a flurry of moves over the next several days ( be it extensions, or restructures) so that he can fill some of these holes with a combination of solid, and bargain FA's so that we have flexibility in the draft to let it come to us and take BPA.
Definitely have to see what FA brings and no one wants the Bucs to make bad need react but the 2019 draft is all defense or offense only very late.
the idea that defensive draft would = reach for need is a bit of a red herring
no problem with WR if there is an obvious huge value play and maybe FA solves some of the D problems
Heck, even you can agree that the defense was lacking talent last year.
The “fire Bowles” crowd of 2024 wants a WR …
:-)
Pretty tough to find Evans eventual replacement in the 3rd round or later. If that’s the goal maybe wait until 2026
The Bucs could take any position if there’s enough value so can’t rule anything out in the draft, especially with free agency still.
yeah i am confused, we arguably have the best WR trio in the league....at least a top 10 unit no doubt.....and we have fans of the team wanting another WR
and completing agree unless you go 1st or 2nd round, it seems like it could be a waste...particularly if they are not going to get reps - Guys drafted past the 3rd round in the last several drafts - Trey Palmer, Jaelon Darden, Tyler Johnson, Scotty Miller, Justin Watson
also - can anyone name me the 4th WR on the Eagles or Bengals?
Your confusion stems from the media and also the league's bad draft philosophy of drafting based on need. The NFL as a whole can't operate the draft process. If you dont believe me, look at past drafts on ProFootballReference and sort by wAV. The picks are basically random.
Unless a position is absolutely not a need, every position should be in consideration. Right now the positions I would say are not in play are QB, RB, OT. Everything else is in play.
Here's an exercise for you and everyone else to truly understand how the draft SHOULD work.
Going into the 2000 draft the Bucs had a historically great defense and a bad offense. We had picks 13, 27, 57, 90, 120, 157, 193, 234. I'm giving you complete revisionist history. You know how everyone's career panned out but the other 30 teams don't. You also have the ability to trade draft picks with any team, up or down, as long as it's fair using this draft trade chart. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp
Create the perfect draft.
Here's an exercise for you
Get learnt, people!
as much as I appreciate your view that the NFL is wrong about everything I will have pass on learning the JC way…
we have Evan's replacement waiting in the wings already in McMillian. Godwin, presumably, should be good another 3 years. Evans, in my mind, will be good another 2 years but let's say he turns to shit this year...then why not use that 1st or 2nd round pick in 2026
I don't think we do. I think McMillan is more in the mold of Godwin.. McMillan is 6'1 192...Godwin is 6'1 209, Evans is 6'5 231. I think a full year and offseason in the strength program will likely have him McMillan likely closer to 200 pounds come training camp. We need another 6'4-6'5 big strong bodied WR that Evans can take under his wing the way VJ did with him his rookie year...Not saying it HAS to happen this year, but if not i'd like to see it next year so that they can get at least 1 full year of learning under M1k3 (provided he's extended another year before then)
Your confusion stems from the media and also the league's bad draft philosophy of drafting based on need. The NFL as a whole can't operate the draft process. If you dont believe me, look at past drafts on ProFootballReference and sort by wAV. The picks are basically random.
Unless a position is absolutely not a need, every position should be in consideration. Right now the positions I would say are not in play are QB, RB, OT. Everything else is in play.
Agreed. Set your draft board and the let the draft come to you.