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Posted by: @jc5100

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Dont get me wrong, I get the negativity, last year Bowles defense was horrible

Average

 

 

 

Do you means average in terms of "the only stat that matters?"

 

 
Posted : Apr. 7, 2025 11:50 am
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Posted by: @white-tiger

Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @white-tiger

 

Dont get me wrong, I get the negativity, last year Bowles defense was horrible

Average

 

 

No, it was horrible. It is the reason we lost many games the offense kept us in. We matched up poorly offensively in some games, but the defense played worse at the end of the season. It is based on a lack of talent.

They committed what resources they had to stopping the run, first.

…but defense was THE problem. 

 

Detached from reality. The truth is the opposite. 

 

 
Posted : Apr. 7, 2025 12:01 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @white-tiger

 

Dont get me wrong, I get the negativity, last year Bowles defense was horrible

Average

 

 

 

Do you means average in terms of "the only stat that matters?"

 

Average in yards, points, game situations.

 

 
Posted : Apr. 7, 2025 12:08 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @white-tiger

Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @white-tiger

 

Dont get me wrong, I get the negativity, last year Bowles defense was horrible

Average

 

 

No, it was horrible. It is the reason we lost many games the offense kept us in. We matched up poorly offensively in some games, but the defense played worse at the end of the season. It is based on a lack of talent.

They committed what resources they had to stopping the run, first.

…but defense was THE problem. 

 

Detached from reality. The truth is the opposite. 

 

Its all there for us to see, it’s just you’re the only one who sees it.

It’s also likely why our major FA was Hassan Reddick, and why we are going to go pretty heavy on defensive picks in this draft.

There is some disconnection with reality in this conversation, but it’s not from where you’re expecting it.

 

 
Posted : Apr. 7, 2025 1:51 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @white-tiger

 

Dont get me wrong, I get the negativity, last year Bowles defense was horrible

Average

 

 

No, it was horrible. It is the reason we lost many games the offense kept us in. We matched up poorly offensively in some games, but the defense played worse at the end of the season. It is based on a lack of talent.

They committed what resources they had to stopping the run, first.

…but defense was THE problem. 

 

If the Bucs had an NFL average defense last season they win more games and make a deeper playoff run. 

And with a better defense the Bucs offense could run the ball more to run out the clock too. 

 

 
Posted : Apr. 7, 2025 3:59 pm
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If the Bucs had an NFL average defense last season they win more games and make a deeper playoff run. 

absolutely

 
Posted : Apr. 7, 2025 4:27 pm
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If the Bucs had an NFL average defense last season they win more games and make a deeper playoff run. 

absolutely

Defense was average. Offense choked in the 4th qtr vs Washington. Botching handoffs and snaps and you guys have the audacity to say "if the defense was average". Bunch of fucking morons. 

 

 
Posted : Apr. 7, 2025 7:36 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

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Posted by: @alldaway

If the Bucs had an NFL average defense last season they win more games and make a deeper playoff run. 

absolutely

Defense was average. Offense choked in the 4th qtr vs Washington. Botching handoffs and snaps and you guys have the audacity to say "if the defense was average". Bunch of fucking morons. 

 

Lol I swear to God you're just trolling with this stupidity. Nobody is this dumb. We all watched the defense. 

 

 
Posted : Apr. 7, 2025 11:29 pm
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you're just trolling with this stupidity.

Yes

 
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Posted by: @jc5100

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Posted by: @alldaway

If the Bucs had an NFL average defense last season they win more games and make a deeper playoff run. 

absolutely

Defense was average. Offense choked in the 4th qtr vs Washington. Botching handoffs and snaps and you guys have the audacity to say "if the defense was average". Bunch of fucking morons. 

 

Lol I swear to God you're just trolling with this stupidity. Nobody is this dumb. We all watched the defense. 

 

Obviously not if you don't think they were average. Offense was responsible for more of the losses. Bitter pill to swallow. Atleast that asshole Coen is gone. 

 

 
Posted : Apr. 8, 2025 8:57 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

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Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @bucsbits

Posted by: @alldaway

If the Bucs had an NFL average defense last season they win more games and make a deeper playoff run. 

absolutely

Defense was average. Offense choked in the 4th qtr vs Washington. Botching handoffs and snaps and you guys have the audacity to say "if the defense was average". Bunch of fucking morons. 

 

Lol I swear to God you're just trolling with this stupidity. Nobody is this dumb. We all watched the defense. 

 

Obviously not if you don't think they were average. Offense was responsible for more of the losses. Bitter pill to swallow. Atleast that asshole Coen is gone. 

 

Must be a quiet day at the library.

 

 
Posted : Apr. 8, 2025 9:02 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

Offense was responsible for more of the losses

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Posted : Apr. 8, 2025 9:43 am
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Obviously not if you don't think they were average. Offense was responsible for more of the losses. Bitter pill to swallow. Atleast that asshole Coen is gone. 

If you interviewed 1000 football analysts and asked them who was responsible for more losses for the Buc, the offense or the defense, we both know how that would turn out...

No need to respond. I've lost enough brain cells 

 
Posted : Apr. 8, 2025 10:10 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

Obviously not if you don't think they were average. Offense was responsible for more of the losses. Bitter pill to swallow. Atleast that asshole Coen is gone. 

If you interviewed 1000 football analysts and asked them who was responsible for more losses for the Buc, the offense or the defense, we both know how that would turn out...

No need to respond. I've lost enough brain cells 

You need analysts to tell you what to think. National media is lazy and local Bucs media is dumb. Speaking of turning out, how would the season have turned out if the offense didn't lose 3 fumbles in crucial late game situations?

 

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Posted : Apr. 10, 2025 10:48 am
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Obviously not if you don't think they were average. Offense was responsible for more of the losses. Bitter pill to swallow. Atleast that asshole Coen is gone. 

If you interviewed 1000 football analysts and asked them who was responsible for more losses for the Buc, the offense or the defense, we both know how that would turn out...

No need to respond. I've lost enough brain cells 

You need analysts to tell you what to think. National media is lazy and local Bucs media is dumb. Speaking of turning out, how would the season have turned out if the offense didn't lose 3 fumbles in crucial late game situations?

 

How would the season turn out of the defense wasn't Swiss cheese and gave up multiple game winning or game tying drives consistently.

I'd have to go back and look but I think the only late game stop we got was the David pick vs Atlanta. Which was followed by 2 abysmal defense drives.

The stop vs Carolina in OT was an absolute miracle punch out but I guess we can count that even tho the offense saved the defense with 30 seconds left.

The cowboys game there was a late stop because Vea had insane instincts and covered the flat as freaking DT.

So we got 1 stop. 1 punch out miracle. 1 DT in the flat miracle.

That combined with being something like 3rd least in forced punts and 2nd least in forced turnovers... While the offense owned the TOP, and was top 3 in scoring and yardage.

I'm back to losing brain cells but I cannot let you, on your infinite stupidity, think you're right. 

 

 
Posted : Apr. 10, 2025 11:30 am
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