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Please no early qb.

drafting trask was (part) of the reason we didn’t repeat as sb champs.

trask sure didn’t help in that loss to the rams.

an olineman wide receiver any secondary player or any position tbh (sans qb) would’ve

le sigh.

 
Posted : Mar. 24, 2024 12:42 pm
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Always thought Godwin was a great WR, but have to say I think Arians’ used him differently than when we drafted him, it developed another dimension to his game. He wasn’t used that way by Canales last year.

 
Posted : Mar. 24, 2024 12:54 pm
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Arians’ used him differently than when we drafted him, it developed another dimension to his game. He wasn’t used that way by Canales last year.

True.

 

Canales wanted him to play outside, but eventually changed back to using him more inside like Arians.

 

Godwin has great hands, strength, leverage and tight area quickness.  He's not an outside burner. 

 

Now, if Palmer could ever find some consistency . . 

 
Posted : Mar. 24, 2024 1:07 pm
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Arians’ used him differently than when we drafted him, it developed another dimension to his game. He wasn’t used that way by Canales last year.

True.

 

Canales wanted him to play outside, but eventually changed back to using him more inside like Arians.

 

Godwin has great hands, strength, leverage and tight area quickness.  He's not an outside burner. 

 

Now, if Palmer could ever find some consistency . . 

Here’s to his sophomore season being a real barn-burner!

 

 
Posted : Mar. 24, 2024 1:18 pm
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Posted by: @debucsown

drafting trask was (part) of the reason we didn’t repeat as sb champs.

Smh…

 
Posted : Mar. 24, 2024 4:12 pm
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I thought Palmer was smaller than he is.  He's 6'0" and 192.  He just seems smaller to me when he's out there.  But we need someone who may not be the biggest player but can run good routes and get open in for the medium range passes.  Maybe that would convince Baker to throw more of those instead of trying to hit the deep ball too much.  Like a Steve Smith Sr. who was only 5'9" and was drafted in the 3rd round.   Tyler Lockett drafted in the 3rd round, is only 5'10".  OK, perhaps it's a pipe dream to think the Bucs can draft a great WR in the 3rd... well Chris Godwin.  Amon Ra St. Brown 5'11.5" drafted in the 4th Round.  Romeo Doubs drafted in the 4th.  Of course surrounding those names on the draft list are many other names that never amounted to much regardless of what round they were drafted in.  

Darden in the 4th, Johnson in the 5th, Miller in the 6th, Watson in the 5th and of course Palmer in the 6th.  All in all Licht has done pretty well drafting Day 3 WRs, but you get what you pay for, and if he wants to kick it up a notch and get an eventual replacement at WR1 or WR2 he'll have to spend a Day 2 pick even in this deep draft.  

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Arians’ used him differently than when we drafted him, it developed another dimension to his game. He wasn’t used that way by Canales last year.

True.

 

Canales wanted him to play outside, but eventually changed back to using him more inside like Arians.

 

Godwin has great hands, strength, leverage and tight area quickness.  He's not an outside burner. 

 

Now, if Palmer could ever find some consistency . . 

Here’s to his sophomore season being a real barn-burner!

 

The Bucs offense would be almost unstoppable with a run game and Palmer balling out

 

 
Posted : Mar. 24, 2024 8:19 pm
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Arians’ used him differently than when we drafted him, it developed another dimension to his game. He wasn’t used that way by Canales last year.

True.

 

Canales wanted him to play outside, but eventually changed back to using him more inside like Arians.

 

Godwin has great hands, strength, leverage and tight area quickness.  He's not an outside burner. 

 

Now, if Palmer could ever find some consistency . . 

Here’s to his sophomore season being a real barn-burner!

 

The Bucs offense would be almost unstoppable with a run game and Palmer balling out

 

There's a reason Palmer was drafted in the 6th round, having some to do with route running and drops.  Those are things that can be improved upon because hh was only a rookie, but at times it seemed like he didn't get a lot of targets and I wonder if his route running was the reason for that. I think he may be a #3/#4 WR for his career, which is pretty darn good for where he was drafted.  But I don't know that he'll ever live up to being Godwin's replacement as a #2 WR.   

 

 
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Arians’ used him differently than when we drafted him, it developed another dimension to his game. He wasn’t used that way by Canales last year.

True.

 

Canales wanted him to play outside, but eventually changed back to using him more inside like Arians.

 

Godwin has great hands, strength, leverage and tight area quickness.  He's not an outside burner. 

 

Now, if Palmer could ever find some consistency . . 

Here’s to his sophomore season being a real barn-burner!

 

The Bucs offense would be almost unstoppable with a run game and Palmer balling out

 

There's a reason Palmer was drafted in the 6th round, having some to do with route running and drops.  Those are things that can be improved upon because hh was only a rookie, but at times it seemed like he didn't get a lot of targets and I wonder if his route running was the reason for that. I think he may be a #3/#4 WR for his career, which is pretty darn good for where he was drafted.  But I don't know that he'll ever live up to being Godwin's replacement as a #2 WR.   

 

 

I would also be very surprised to see him as a #2 receiver.

He has always had consistency issues, if you look at his college coverage. It kept him from getting on the field with a very talented Tigers team and so when his coach left for Nebraska off he went.

All of that said he is one of of our most intriguing players because of his insane quickness and speed. I saw a Next Gen stat where his acceleration was better than Tyreek Hill. WOW!  If he was just a competent #3 (routes and catching) his speed alone would make defenses hesitate to roll coverage to Evans. Hell, it already does lol. 

I am NOT comparing them at all, but think about how difficult things were for defenses when we had Antonio Brown on the filed at the same time as Evans and Godwin

 

 

 

 
Posted : Mar. 25, 2024 10:48 am
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We definitely could use a 9 route guy that can take the top off of a defense, consistently… I too have some reservations that Palmer can be that guy, but adding some competition from the draft would help.

Better line play & a consistently productive run game could also keep defenses honest, allowing for those 9 routes to open up more - or at least allow us to take some legit shots, consistently, downfield. Not a lot of options out there that can give you what AB gave. He had enough bulk to be a weapon in more than just 9 routes, to go along with an aggressive mindset..and speed-to-kill.

I’m thinking a better draft class at TE would give us those things in Coen’s scheme? Undortunately, the only difference makers at that position are Brock Bowers & maybe Ja’tavion Sanders. Cade Stover has some interest… but he’d be a bit of a reach.

It will be interesting & hopefully fun to watch!

 
Posted : Mar. 27, 2024 11:09 am
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I've been seeing the Penn State LT falling in mocks. I really like him. If he's falling in the late teens it wouldn't be a bad move up. Goedeke had a good year but he does get smoked by speed sometimes and I think he would be a dominant guard. 

 
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I've been seeing the Penn State LT falling in mocks. I really like him. If he's falling in the late teens it wouldn't be a bad move up. Goedeke had a good year but he does get smoked by speed sometimes and I think he would be a dominant guard. 

I like him too.

That being said, I haven't seen a mock yet showing him slipping by NOLA. 

Especially with the recent news regarding Ramczyk.

We'd have to jump to #13.

 

 
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I've been seeing the Penn State LT falling in mocks. I really like him. If he's falling in the late teens it wouldn't be a bad move up. Goedeke had a good year but he does get smoked by speed sometimes and I think he would be a dominant guard. 

I like him too.

That being said, I haven't seen a mock yet showing him slipping by NOLA. 

Especially with the recent news regarding Ramczyk.

We'd have to jump to #13.

 

 

Realistic chances they jump up to take a LT?

 

 
Posted : Mar. 27, 2024 4:47 pm
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I've been seeing the Penn State LT falling in mocks. I really like him. If he's falling in the late teens it wouldn't be a bad move up. Goedeke had a good year but he does get smoked by speed sometimes and I think he would be a dominant guard. 

I like him too.

That being said, I haven't seen a mock yet showing him slipping by NOLA. 

Especially with the recent news regarding Ramczyk.

We'd have to jump to #13.

 

 

Realistic chances they jump up to take a LT?

 

Fashanu would be a RT obviously. 

 

 
Posted : Mar. 28, 2024 10:48 am
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I've been seeing the Penn State LT falling in mocks. I really like him. If he's falling in the late teens it wouldn't be a bad move up. Goedeke had a good year but he does get smoked by speed sometimes and I think he would be a dominant guard. 

I like him too.

That being said, I haven't seen a mock yet showing him slipping by NOLA. 

Especially with the recent news regarding Ramczyk.

We'd have to jump to #13.

 

 

Realistic chances they jump up to take a LT?

 

Fashanu would be a RT obviously. 

 

 

chances they take him? lol

 

 
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