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Posted by: @catherder

At the start of 2025 Godwin will be 29 and likely will not be resigned

 

Will be interesting to see what happens with this and interesting to see how it goes this season

 

 
Posted : Mar. 30, 2024 8:59 am
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PR staff is hung up on the team possibly using a a first rounder on a WR

I think they say day 1 or 2.

PR's article about replacing Evans and Godwin did mention Keon Coleman in Round 1 to replace Evans.  But are we really looking to replace Evans who just signed a two year deal?  Evans style of play can hold off Father Time for a bit longer than Godwin's.  Godwin's suggested replacements were Rd 2 Pearsall, Rd 3 Corley and Rd 4 Washington.  At the beginning of this offseason there was uncertainty about both WR spots, but now it's evident that it's Godwin's role that will need to be filled. 

Replacing Godwin is the draft need.  Plain and simple. WRs are known to hang around the league as long as they can to catch a few more passes and be part of a contending team, see Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Larry Fitzgerald, and so on.  So if things go as planned for the Bucs and we are contenders in 2025 maybe they find a way to bring Godwin back in a reduced role for a lower salary.  Maybe Godwin shops around and doesn't get any bites and decides to end his career in Tampa Bay.  Not likely but possible. But I don't see a scenario where Godwin is still the #2 WR for the Bucs in 2025.  

 

 
Posted : Mar. 30, 2024 10:17 am
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The Bucs would be stupid to draft a WR early in this year's draft

Th Red Board's football smart set is talking about moving up to #13 to draft an LT to play RT, so . . .

 

:-)

Hypothetically, there couldn't be a tackle good enough to take at 13 and move Goedeke inside? 

 

 

so, chances Bucs take  the guy you're pimping?

 

I asked the question hypothetically and you answered with a specific player. Why? Because you painted yourself into a corner that you can't get out of. It's checkmate but I'm going to watch you squirm for my own entertainment. 

 

 
Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 8:24 am
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The Bucs would be stupid to draft a WR early in this year's draft

Th Red Board's football smart set is talking about moving up to #13 to draft an LT to play RT, so . . .

 

:-)

Hypothetically, there couldn't be a tackle good enough to take at 13 and move Goedeke inside? 

 

 

so, chances Bucs take  the guy you're pimping?

 

I asked the question hypothetically and you answered with a specific player. Why? Because you painted yourself into a corner that you can't get out of. It's checkmate but I'm going to watch you squirm for my own entertainment. 

 

You didn't specify a name, only a Penn State LT.  There are probably a lot of Penn State LTs out there. You said "I've been seeing the Penn State LT falling in mocks. I really like him. If he's falling in the late teens it wouldn't be a bad move up. Goedeke had a good year but he does get smoked by speed sometimes and I think he would be a dominant guard."

On the off chance you were talking about moving up for Fasanu, the Bucs would have to give up our 2nd round pick and change to move up that far based on the drafttek draft chart.  

 

 
Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 10:49 am
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On the off chance you were talking about moving up for Fasanu,

He names him earlier, as a FIRST deflection from my question on the chances the Bucs would actually do what he's saying. and then even names him again placing him in his RT position with us:

 

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RT Fashanu A

 

He's just doing NOW what all the VERY FRAGILE football egos do her when they get called on their opinion, but are not capable of defending it:

 

1. They ignore the question (4 times)

 

2. Call others dumb or "simpleton" or "dunce," because they cant defend the original troll ("chance the Bucs actually take him?")

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I forgot Red Board is low level thinking

 

3. and then trapped by their own egos and inability to think their way out of their own trolling, out comes the 3rd grade level attempted "shutdown" (that PSYCHOLOGISTS might call "projection"):

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you painted yourself into a corner that you can't get out of. It's checkmate but I'm going to watch you squirm for my own entertainment. 

 

It's a funny cycle that easily repeats here over and over.  JC painted himself into a corner thats why he wouldn't answer. He couldn't.  You can even see another regular troll chime in:

 

Posted by: @biggs3535

Low-level thinkers ask dumbass questions like that.

 

JC checkmated himself, but says someone else is checkmated and he's "entertained"  . . .even though he's being led around like a cow with a nose ring

 

 

amusing 

 

 
Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 12:09 pm
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Charles Davis say CB or C

 

Trading Carlton Davis created a need at cornerback. Head coach Todd Bowles will always take care of his defense, and it plays hard for him. A center like Graham Barton could also be in the mix with this pick as the Bucs look to replace the retired Ryan Jensen.

 
Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 12:25 pm
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The Bucs would be stupid to draft a WR early in this year's draft

Th Red Board's football smart set is talking about moving up to #13 to draft an LT to play RT, so . . .

 

:-)

Hypothetically, there couldn't be a tackle good enough to take at 13 and move Goedeke inside? 

 

Hypothetically? Of course there could be. And, most likely there is. 

That being said, we'd have to move up quite a bit to get within striking reach of one. And, it would cost us a Day 2 pick. 

For a team that has as many holes as we do, RT isn't one of them. Especially one that has already proven to be dogshit at guard. And, it would be foolish to burn a premium pick to move up for one. 

We have the worst starting center in the league, and piss-poor play from both guard spots. We have an immediate need at EDGE (which is far superior in relation to positional importance). 

 

 

 
Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 1:50 pm
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Charles Davis say CB or C

 

Trading Carlton Davis created a need at cornerback. Head coach Todd Bowles will always take care of his defense, and it plays hard for him. A center like Graham Barton could also be in the mix with this pick as the Bucs look to replace the retired Ryan Jensen.

Was a fan of CB at first, but not anymore. 

Said CB will be playing primarily zone. We can find that Day 2 or beyond. 

 

 
Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 1:52 pm
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Seems like the connect does approach

”they traded Davis so ….”

 

as opposed to insight 

 
Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 3:31 pm
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For a team that has as many holes as we do, RT isn't one of them. Especially one that has already proven to be dogshit at guard. And, it would be foolish to burn a premium pick to move up for one. 

We have the worst starting center in the league, and piss-poor play from both guard spots.

This

 
Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 3:34 pm
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Goedeke struggled at guard, and thrived last season at RT. So your play is to undue what works? Keep playing Madden; that is one delusional take

 
Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 4:35 pm
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Brian Thomas or the pass rusher they want falling is the sweet spot. Powers-Johnson would be a decent backup plan. And I think you gotta keep an eye on on Penix especially if he falls into round 2

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Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 4:36 pm
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Saying BPA may be cliche but I’d rather people reiterate that than listen to the never ending “we NEED a center in round 1” I mean this is just nonsense if an elite player falls; and with as many QBs going. Probably will happen

 
Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 4:45 pm
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I don't see an elite WR falling to the Bucs pick though.  I feel that the WRs projected to go in round 1 will go much higher than most think because the Cardinals, Chargers,  Giants, Bears (1b), Jets, Jaguars, Steelers, etc all have a big need for WR.  The Patriots, Ravens, and Chiefs are the same boat and they may opt to trade up for one.  If the Cards do not draft MHjr with their first pick they will definitely trade up with their second 1st rounder for a WR in round 1.  Same with the Chargers if they do not go for a WR with their primary 1st round selection.  So the Chargers may opt to trade back into the first round if they go with another position with their primary first rounder to obtain a WR at the middle of round 1.

If the Bucs stay pat the BAP positions will be a DB meaning either a safety, boundary CB or nickel, edge rushers, pass rushing defensive tackles, and interior OL.  There is a possibility that ILB sneak into round 1 as well as RB but not likely. 

So yeah the most likely BAP for the Bucs pick if they do not move up will be DB, interior OL and Edge.

The only other possibility is QB if a player like Penix falls.

But people keep saying WR as a BAP for 26 are not paying attention to what other teams have as needs. 

 
Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 5:46 pm
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I think most NFL teams build their draft boards by marrying the two concepts, ranking best players in positions of need

 

BUT those same teams are also much more likely to deviate from their need-based board and take the BPA in round one because the variance should be the greatest between that unexpectedly available player and others in the same position or lesser impact positions. 

 
Posted : Mar. 31, 2024 7:09 pm
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