penalty aside, those refs were awful, didn't even know the rules
The NFL only cares about money. CTE stuff and targeting exists so they don't get sued... It's not about player safety.
now you are starting to get it! Now, let's break through that barrier....that it's not only the NFL that just cares about money but also....
The NFL only cares about money.
Of course? As it should be and as all should expect. The NFL mirrors every other for profit company, right?
Every McDonalds employee wheres the same uniform.
Every Disney employee, same demeanor and name badge.
Fly any Delta flight and you will see the same colors, hear the same greetings and hopefully get the same service.
Order Amazon and pay three times the cost of a product to have it delivered a human to your door TOMORROW . .. that human driving a light blue truck with the most recognized phallic symbol on the planet.
Every (smart) business protect its brand and tries to appeal to the largest group of consumers possible.
The NFL understandably does things like ban gun signs as celebration because they are not selling exclusively to the market that is over represented on this message board. All the (fake) angst posted here about the stupidity of the rule (I don't like the rule) is dwarfed by the massive size of the potential market at stake, a market that includes women, families, children, the rest of the world, television and streaming . . and, perhaps most importantly . .
the ADVERTISING DOLLARS spent by thousands of corporations who think EXACTLY the same way about their own brand.
The rule is not stupid. It is smart. It makes complete sense.
I still dont like it lol . . . but talk about no market share
Gun hands is absolutely stupid.
The irony of the NFL flagging a player making a CLEAR gesture for a first down with his index and middle finger literally taped, because of the super scary gun hands.
All while being played in a stadium which actually fire off replica cannons for celebrations.
Good stuff.
Gun hands is absolutely stupid.
The irony of the NFL flagging a player making a CLEAR gesture for a first down with his index and middle finger literally taped, because of the super scary gun hands.
All while being played in a stadium which actually fire off replica cannons for celebrations.
Good stuff.
Don’t give them any ideas. Only a matter of time until they remove the cannons
Gun hands is absolutely stupid.
The irony of the NFL flagging a player making a CLEAR gesture for a first down with his index and middle finger literally taped, because of the super scary gun hands.
All while being played in a stadium which actually fire off replica cannons for celebrations.
Good stuff.
What's even funnier, is the Patriots having guys dress up as "minutemen" and literally fire old muskets.
Gun hands is absolutely stupid.
The irony of the NFL flagging a player making a CLEAR gesture for a first down with his index and middle finger literally taped, because of the super scary gun hands.
All while being played in a stadium which actually fire off replica cannons for celebrations.
Good stuff.
What's even funnier, is the Patriots having guys dress up as "minutemen" and literally fire old muskets.
Exactly!
Shocked they haven’t banned shotgun formations.
Shocked they haven’t banned shotgun formations.
And pistol.
Patriots having guys dress up as "minutemen" and literally fire old muskets.
definitely conjures up the same kind of imagery
lol
Having a rule that’s so ambiguous that it’s left up to the interpretation of one ref… is beyond foolish - and it creates controversy.
as has been mentioned - we literally fire cannons every game. We have hit an all time low when the team that celebrates the spirit of a country who took up arms in a revolution… means a there’s a lack of sensitivity as to how folks celebrate.
Some might conclude that the refs were actually reaching in their bag to slow our momentum - hitting a rookie with a 15 yard penalty - in a critical part of the game over something, someone, might take offense to.
Losing is insulting too - if Baker didn’t hit Jalen McMillan with a SECOND dime and JMac didn’t make a phenomenal catch in the end zone - and we’d lost that game…Buc fans would’ve not needed weapons to make their point.
FWIW the the rule is not about guns, its about "violent gestures." Think about the earlier "throat slitting" motion.
I only saw the actual play once in real time and I read McMillan's after the fact tape explanation. Where ever one comes down on his gestures they are still his gestures and the rule has been discussed quite a bit this year and specifically as it related to gun-type celebrations, so ultimately on the player to not put the team in that scenarios ESPECIALLY with the state of officiating!!
Thats the only time in my memory where Ive seen refs huddle for 5 or 10 minutes, crowd protesting the entire time, and they STILL almost got the down and distance wrong
Plenty of players use the referee signal for first down, and variations using the ball, slow motion.
Maybe McMillan should adopt one of those and stay within the rules.
Plenty of players use the referee signal for first down, and variations using the ball, slow motion.
Maybe McMillan should adopt one of those and stay within the rules.
agreed
with that officiating crew they still might have made up some reason that was a penalty!!!! Lol.
That was a really bad look for NFL officiating
Legislating commonly used gestures (ie, the throat slash is used from the warehouse to the board room to communicate to shut it down/you’re done) - is just silly. It is just a political tool being used to influence a drive/keep a game close.FWIW the the rule is not about guns, its about "violent gestures." Think about the earlier "throat slitting" motion.
I only saw the actual play once in real time and I read McMillan's after the fact tape explanation. Where ever one comes down on his gestures they are still his gestures and the rule has been discussed quite a bit this year and specifically as it related to gun-type celebrations, so ultimately on the player to not put the team in that scenarios ESPECIALLY with the state of officiating!!
Thats the only time in my memory where Ive seen refs huddle for 5 or 10 minutes, crowd protesting the entire time, and they STILL almost got the down and distance wrong
The whole concept of ending “violent gestures” is behavior modification and it’s time should have already come to an end. It’s a violent sport, we’re an aggressive culture. It has no place deciding the outcome of games, or even drives.
Gestures aren’t the problem in the game - no player ever slashed someone’s throat, or shot anyone on the field of play. Penalties are about easily understood illegal activity that has caused injuries or allows for unfair advantage. That’s easily explainable.
A kid celebrating a knife to the chest play isn’t going to instigate/influence any nut job off-the-field.
It’s just politics worming its way into sports.
Fair political point for sure.
I just dont think any of it is for politics because politics are exclusive, tribal . . anti mass marketing. I
IF slashing throat gestures sold tickets, ads and sponsorships --- every player in the NFL would be getting bonuses for that celebration! lmao.
NFL owners pray at the Altar of GREEN (not red or blue). They do whatever brings in the green, violent game or not. The NBA is almost no contact and they have the same violent gestures prohibition. Even the NHL.
NASCAR banned confederate flags . . NASCAR . . . not because of the politics. Because there are only so many white southern male fans.
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For the Bucs though it still comes down to the player because the player is the only thing the team can control, especially with terrible refs
