2nd team All-Pro Selection for Evans, for the 2nd time in his career. Not bad for a guy that isn't true #1 WR.
Damn its been a great day. Pay the man!2nd team All-Pro Selection for Evans, for the 2nd time in his career. Not bad for a guy that isn't true #1 WR.
Mike Evans is the Bucs #1 receiver for sure, but theres a pretty easy argument that he's not really a true #1 if by that its meant that he is the CONDUIT for the offense.
That post followed me saying "Evans is a true #1 WR, in every way."
There is a reason that schmekel posts coach-speak, other people's quotes, tweets, articles from decades ago, etc. and will sprint away from anybody asking for his analysis. Painfully clueless, but completely shameless and incessantly posting.
Buggsy, that thread you quoted goes on to make my argument about Evans as a CONDUIT of the offense, an offense that stands out for something over the last few years. People like you SELECTIVELY try to diminish the independent BACK UP for an argument ("other people's quotes, tweets, articles") and always add the name calling because you cant overcome the argument.
I am happy with my posts. You can quote them and reference them all you want . . . you just cant overcome them . . . no matter how many times you go with the name calling:-)
BY THE WAY . . its is ABSOLUTELY NO COINCIDENCE the timing of these posts, especially in a BUMPED UP THREAD. There is a thread here that is asking Trask supporters like you to tell us who you think Trask will be. Its JUST football talk (minus one almost immediate trolling post lol) and even talk by others there of the civil discourse. You're not in the thread because it requires FOOTBALL THOUGHT and it highlights THE ABSENCE OF TROLLING
https://www.pewterreport.com/community/the-red-board/recovery/paged/3/#post-174651
There is another thread TOO. . . ACTUALLY BUMPED BY YOU FROM THE past and as usual you made an ILL-TIMED SPECIOUS CLAIM, so I gave you all the tools you needed to back up your claim FROM CANALES HIMSELF. His actual recent press conference. The link and even the timestamps are in the other thread. I provided the link:
https://www.pewterreport.com/community/the-red-board/canales-press-conference/
It's right there. You will NOT do it. You will not back up your claim because that is not your purpose in bumping it. Trolling over football talk . . . that is the purpose.
No need for me to prove that . . its the one skill you have mastered. Just look at the board.
Hey hey, I love this type of BUMP POST. Lets celebrate the AWESOMENESS of ME13. He's gonna break records this year, and he still got...maybe 3 good years left in him before age starts talking. He'll be top 5 in TD's before he hangs'em up. Maybe my wife will get me a ME13 Jersey for Xmas next year, and GW14 the year after, and Mayfield the year after. Anyhoo, bishes. Great bump post, dont mess it up with excessive quibble, productive quibble/hypothetical conjecture/ facts, or whatever. Quibble civilly and be ready to support your view point! Im out, for now!
I am happy with my posts.
This cannot be challenged, as you are unabashedly shameless.
I am a huge Evans fan. Totally think he is awesome and a HOFer
But again with the impeccable timing of my fellow poster lol . . .
its worth nothing that my quoted comment is that there is an argument that Evans isnt a true #1 . . key point here. . . IF . . . "if" . . .by that its meant that he is the CONDUIT for the offense.
"the conduit" for the offense.
Today the ALL-PROs are out. Evans is SECOND TEAM All-Pro. Evans either leads all the All-PRO WRs in touchdowns or he's tied IN TDs with one of the FIRST team AllPros:
Tyreek Hill
CeeDee Lamb
and Amon-Ra St. Brown
were the first-team All-Pro receivers.
Evans is a HOFer and a long established veteran but hes in the SECOND TEAM? With some other rookies or younger receivers, incidentally some whose play is more like the FIRST-TEAM selections. I think?
Not saying his position as a SECOND TEAM All-Pro IS CORRECT -- NOT DISRESPECTING HIM IN ANY WAY -- just saying (again) that one way people think of #1 receivers is that the offense GOES THROUGH THEM, the very point I made in the bumped thread and specifically why I said IF by that its meant that he is the CONDUIT for the offense.
The lowest number of targets in those 3 first teamer is Amon with 160ish and they go up to 180ish. Evans is PLAYING THIS SEASON in an offense that is trying to incorporate him MORE and he's probably got 30-50 LESS targets than those other guys (ie they are MORE conduits of their offense). TDs matter MORE. MOST ACTUALLY. But, many people think of #1 receivers -- RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY -- as the all around conduit for the offense
Evans is a world class TRUE FINISHER because he's a 6'5 deceptively fast strider who overtakes people, not a short area tricky nimble footed guy.
If you looked all of the First team guys they are shorter, quicker frames. I think hill is short actually and Lamb is maybe 6' 2'. But even put that feature aside as CONDUITS one very small way to see the PHYSICAL difference is the First Team guys have CARRIES to add to all their targets. Not a lot by any means BUT its because of their physical make up. I do not know but does Evans have a carry this season? Do you picture Evans carrying a reverse like our tiny 4th or 5th receiver . . OR GODWIN? Not sure Evans even has a carry in his career AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT GIVEN HIS BODY TYPE.
Just my op (obviously) but we've been fortunate to have TWO weapons who together put us in a BETTER spot than teams heavily running their offense through one. Godwin eats up some (not all) of the targets, particularly in the middle and short part of the field, particularly when teams drop into deep zones to stop Evans, and if anyone Godwin takes the carries from our other guy. Opposing defenses certainly game plan us to take away Evans big plays, so again NO DISRESPECT TO HIM, just highlighting one of the things that generally speaking makes him different.
I am happy with my posts.
This cannot be challenged, as you are unabashedly shameless.
Let me try (again) to give you an opportunity to post your football thoughts:
https://www.pewterreport.com/community/the-red-board/recovery/
https://www.pewterreport.com/community/the-red-board/canales-press-conference/
I am happy with my posts.
This cannot be challenged, as you are unabashedly shameless.
Lol.
First he says its an easy argument that he’s not the conduit or true #1 WR, then proceeds to say the complete opposite after getting destroyed in the thread (and by Evans’ on field production).
Almost as comical as him leading off with calling you Buggsy, then mentioning name calling as a means of defeat due to not being able to win an argument.
He’s off to a hot start to retain his Troll of the Year honors.
Maybe my wife will get me a ME13 Jersey for Xmas next year
I’d stop with that one.
Get you an LVD and Wirfs.
Those are ALL potential HoF’ers (along with your Winfield).
Just read this on JBF:
T"he official Associated Press results show that Aiyuk and Evans tied in the voting, apparently for the final spot."
from AP:
The results of The Associated Press 2023 NFL All-Pro balloting as selected by a national panel of 50 media members. First-place votes in parentheses are worth three points, second-place votes worth one:
Wide Receivers
Tyreek Hill, Miami, 150 (50); CeeDee Lamb, Dallas, 148 (49); Amon-Ra St. Brown, Detroit, 80 (19); A.J. Brown 70 (14), Philadelphia; Puka Nacua, Los Angeles Rams, 57 (9); Brandon Aiyuk, San Francisco, 34 (5); Mike Evans, Tampa Bay, 34 (3); D.J. Moore, Chicago, 6; Amari Cooper, Cleveland, 5; Nico Collins, Houston, 4; Deebo Samuel, San Francisco, 3 (1); Keenan Allen, Los Angeles Chargers, 2; Ja’Marr Chase, Cincinnati, 2; Davante Adams, Las Vegas, 1; Stefon Diggs, Buffalo, 1; Courtland Sutton, Denver, 1; Jaylen Waddle, Miami, 1; Garrett Wilson, New York Jets, 1.
I am a huge Evans fan. Totally think he is awesome and a HOFer
But again with the impeccable timing of my fellow poster lol . . .
its worth nothing that my quoted comment is that there is an argument that Evans isnt a true #1 . . key point here. . . IF . . . "if" . . .by that its meant that he is the CONDUIT for the offense.
"the conduit" for the offense.
Today the ALL-PROs are out. Evans is SECOND TEAM All-Pro. Evans either leads all the All-PRO WRs in touchdowns or he's tied IN TDs with one of the FIRST team AllPros:
Tyreek Hill
CeeDee Lamb
and Amon-Ra St. Brown
were the first-team All-Pro receivers.
Evans is a HOFer and a long established veteran but hes in the SECOND TEAM? With some other rookies or younger receivers, incidentally some whose play is more like the FIRST-TEAM selections. I think?
Not saying his position as a SECOND TEAM All-Pro IS CORRECT -- NOT DISRESPECTING HIM IN ANY WAY -- just saying (again) that one way people think of #1 receivers is that the offense GOES THROUGH THEM, the very point I made in the bumped thread and specifically why I said IF by that its meant that he is the CONDUIT for the offense.
The lowest number of targets in those 3 first teamer is Amon with 160ish and they go up to 180ish. Evans is PLAYING THIS SEASON in an offense that is trying to incorporate him MORE and he's probably got 30-50 LESS targets than those other guys (ie they are MORE conduits of their offense). TDs matter MORE. MOST ACTUALLY. But, many people think of #1 receivers -- RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY -- as the all around conduit for the offense
Evans is a world class TRUE FINISHER because he's a 6'5 deceptively fast strider who overtakes people, not a short area tricky nimble footed guy.
If you looked all of the First team guys they are shorter, quicker frames. I think hill is short actually and Lamb is maybe 6' 2'. But even put that feature aside as CONDUITS one very small way to see the PHYSICAL difference is the First Team guys have CARRIES to add to all their targets. Not a lot by any means BUT its because of their physical make up. I do not know but does Evans have a carry this season? Do you picture Evans carrying a reverse like our tiny 4th or 5th receiver . . OR GODWIN? Not sure Evans even has a carry in his career AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT GIVEN HIS BODY TYPE.
Just my op (obviously) but we've been fortunate to have TWO weapons who together put us in a BETTER spot than teams heavily running their offense through one. Godwin eats up some (not all) of the targets, particularly in the middle and short part of the field, particularly when teams drop into deep zones to stop Evans, and if anyone Godwin takes the carries from our other guy. Opposing defenses certainly game plan us to take away Evans big plays, so again NO DISRESPECT TO HIM, just highlighting one of the things that generally speaking makes him different.
Just let it roll over you like water. Bruce Lee man "Be like WATA (🤣)." Bend like the willow tree, or stand firm like the fking mountain. The choice is yours, but you carry the burden of having to carry your decision. It will either be light or heavy. Choose wisely.
Just another look because the voting is different
THE 2023-24 PLAYERS’ ALL-PRO FIRST TEAM
Quarterback: Lamar Jackson (Baltimore)
Running back: Christian McCaffrey (San Francisco)
Fullback: Kyle Juszczyk (San Francisco)
Wide Receiver (2): CeeDee Lamb (Dallas), Tyreek Hill (Miami)
Tight End: Travis Kelce (Kansas City)
Left Tackle: Trent Williams (San Francisco)
Left Guard (tie): Joel Bitonio (Cleveland), Tyler Smith (Dallas)
Center: Jason Kelce (Philadelphia)
Right Guard: Zack Martin (Dallas)
Right Tackle: Lane Johnson (Philadelphia)
Maybe my wife will get me a ME13 Jersey for Xmas next year
I’d stop with that one.
Get you an LVD and Wirfs.
Those are ALL potential HoF’ers (along with your Winfield).
Yeah...Solid choices. Wirfs is another one man. I mean, I think he's going to be a better LT than RT, and then in a year or two be considered best LT in the game, and then a few more years we'll be talking HOF, and then maybe who knows...Who was the greatest LT of all time, wasnt it the BIG guy that played for the miserable Jags for a while. Name started with a B or something. How'd he do in his first year as LT compared to Wirfs as LT this year thus far. The stats may be shocking. Just like Winfield and Reed and Lott, they have him by a MILE in INTS' but Winfield has them in like every other statistical category and other things that they cant even find a way to measure- Item 1) Strip sack fumble safety, Item 2) Hussle punch ball out, wipe 7 points off the board-but it also wiped away momentum, oh and on the second TD, the one that got called back...who touched the scorer even after he had scored a certain guy IM A HUGE FAN OF, it was pointless to touch him accept for the mere principle of hussle. Anyhoo, just enjoy Wirfs dominate for the next several years, and his jersy is DEFINITELY on my bucket/fuckit list.
Just let it roll over you like water. Bruce Lee man "Be like WATA (🤣)." Bend like the willow tree, or stand firm like the fking mountain
CLASSIC!!
I am a huge Evans fan. Totally think he is awesome and a HOFer
But again with the impeccable timing of my fellow poster lol . . .
its worth nothing that my quoted comment is that there is an argument that Evans isnt a true #1 . . key point here. . . IF . . . "if" . . .by that its meant that he is the CONDUIT for the offense.
"the conduit" for the offense.
Today the ALL-PROs are out. Evans is SECOND TEAM All-Pro. Evans either leads all the All-PRO WRs in touchdowns or he's tied IN TDs with one of the FIRST team AllPros:
Tyreek Hill
CeeDee Lamb
and Amon-Ra St. Brown
were the first-team All-Pro receivers.
Evans is a HOFer and a long established veteran but hes in the SECOND TEAM? With some other rookies or younger receivers, incidentally some whose play is more like the FIRST-TEAM selections. I think?
Not saying his position as a SECOND TEAM All-Pro IS CORRECT -- NOT DISRESPECTING HIM IN ANY WAY -- just saying (again) that one way people think of #1 receivers is that the offense GOES THROUGH THEM, the very point I made in the bumped thread and specifically why I said IF by that its meant that he is the CONDUIT for the offense.
The lowest number of targets in those 3 first teamer is Amon with 160ish and they go up to 180ish. Evans is PLAYING THIS SEASON in an offense that is trying to incorporate him MORE and he's probably got 30-50 LESS targets than those other guys (ie they are MORE conduits of their offense). TDs matter MORE. MOST ACTUALLY. But, many people think of #1 receivers -- RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY -- as the all around conduit for the offense
Evans is a world class TRUE FINISHER because he's a 6'5 deceptively fast strider who overtakes people, not a short area tricky nimble footed guy.
If you looked all of the First team guys they are shorter, quicker frames. I think hill is short actually and Lamb is maybe 6' 2'. But even put that feature aside as CONDUITS one very small way to see the PHYSICAL difference is the First Team guys have CARRIES to add to all their targets. Not a lot by any means BUT its because of their physical make up. I do not know but does Evans have a carry this season? Do you picture Evans carrying a reverse like our tiny 4th or 5th receiver . . OR GODWIN? Not sure Evans even has a carry in his career AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT GIVEN HIS BODY TYPE.
Just my op (obviously) but we've been fortunate to have TWO weapons who together put us in a BETTER spot than teams heavily running their offense through one. Godwin eats up some (not all) of the targets, particularly in the middle and short part of the field, particularly when teams drop into deep zones to stop Evans, and if anyone Godwin takes the carries from our other guy. Opposing defenses certainly game plan us to take away Evans big plays, so again NO DISRESPECT TO HIM, just highlighting one of the things that generally speaking makes him different.
Gwin just needs to go back to slot. He can kill any role, 1ST WR, Second WR all the way to Practice squad. Gwin is a lion, it doesnt matter where you put him, he a lion. But his Mufasa place, his natural gifts are meant to A) catch virtually anything- I bet if a football exploded in mid air, Gwin would still find a way to catch it over three defenders and score a first down or TD, he could even run it. But IMHO, The middle of the field from the -2 yrds through 35-40 yards...just put the ball in his hands. He's too strong for safeties, and I think even LB'rs are ducking a second before he does, he's THE SLOT WR. ME13 is the WR1, anywhere from 7-99 yards, find a way to put the ball in his hands and let him do the rest. White is there to mix up the offense and make it unpredictable, will he run...he cant run right? Well maybe he can now, and yeah, he can catch too! So he's like another WR, We got at least 3 weapons on offense, more than enough, remember Pittman in SB 2002, dude went off when it counted!
