That uniform is ugly. Like the new helmets but not the unis. Too busy.
Does this mean you're renouncing your fandom like you'll do when we sign Vick?
No, ugly uniforms and felons would fall into two different categories. Sort of like bad has ion and stupid. One might change the other won't. You should understand that.
I've read this over and over and I honestly can say that I am unable to understand.
Not sure why the autocorrect went with has ion over fashion. Oddly, it did a different "correction" on this go around with the word. Love the randomness sometimes.....most of the times I don't :)
That makes much more sense. Thank you.Yes, I am one of those people who likes change, even embraces change just for the sake of change, and I'm not feeling too hot about these new uniforms. I don't think it's about a propensity to like, enjoy, hate or resist change, it's about the fact that the font, in that picture, looks terrible.
Lol. Only the Bucs can fail SO hard. I'll wait to see them in person before I make my verdict, but my initial reaction is that these are fucking horrible and the numbers look like they came straight off a 1980's alarm clock. My biggest WTF? about this, is why on Earth would you release a sh!tty amatuer photoshop version two days before the actual release? They might look better in person, but this picture sucks. Between this and the initial release pic that made the helmet appear to be black....they need to fire their advertising dept ASAP. I've never seen an NFL jersey change handled so poorly. I'll wait to see them in person to really form my opinion, but as of this very second....I wish they would have just left it alone. I hope they look better in person, but nothing they have done so far has inspired an ounce of optimism. As usual, it seems the Bucs organization has manged to royal screw things up.
You guys are missing the main point. NO MORE DRACULA COLLAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dracula didn't use am alarm clock. He woke up when he was hungry. Apparently the Bucs felt they needed to wake up hungry?
...or will we wake up youngry? <--- seriously it doesn't even try and autocorrect that?
Change can be good. I loved the change from the old orange uni to the red and pewter. However change for changes sake can be bad, and what Nike have paid a blind chimpanzee with arthritis to produce is awful. We didn't need to change,
I think the last decade of performance may say different. Right or wrong, the Glazers are trying to keep the Bucs relevant and in this instance the timing almost coincides (by chance, I suspect) with the Bucs trying to reinvent the 1995 change with Lovie etc. If thye win, the jersey will sell off the shelf (as will "throwback" apparel, so they really win either way on apparel, so long as the team improves)
Winning is the reinvention. JAX tried the uniform redo and it got them no more relevant. Bottom line, I suspect for teams without a strong traditional uniform (Green bay, Chicago, Pit) you are gonna see these redesigns about once a decade now so that they can selll new mercy.
there is an article from last year when the Seahawks changed that suggested that some of the team you mention would never change and that could be right. The Bucs brand is not anywhere near that of those teams, so they are more open to change
Lol - someone wake up Jdub.. This could be epic. :)Like the new uniform overall... I too don't know about the 'digital' numbers... It cheapens the overall look.I'm certain the colors are a bit lighter without that black background darkening the uniform.
The "Digtal" numbers is actually the new pirate font outlined with reflect able chrome. Kinda cool when you say it like that, lol. But someone on Twitter made a good point. Every team is going to start going through this changes as the NFL changes to a more independent look per team. Similar to the Jags, Seahawks, Dolphins and now the Bucs.
+1people generally dislike change, but if you see the uniform as part of an overall strategy, both for the team and the league, its actually pretty cool
So...either you like the new unis, or you just aren't very apt to change?
lol, nice strawman. No, but GENERALLY people dislike change. It's human nature and, as shocking as it sounds . . .. hard core fans and "purists" like change the least
Not quite a strawman, just a question. Can that be said of younger people now days, that they "generally" dislike change?I would disagree about the hardcore fans. I think the homers and "leg-jumpers" will get a stiffy at anything the franchise churns out and will be right there to catch every drop, so to speak. :)
well, that is one way to look at it . . .my point was just that a Buc message board is not the best cross-sample of NFL consumers because it is loaded with purists and purists (of all ages) are generally more resistant to change, hence the name. All people, young and old, generally dislike change, but my guess is that the design would appeal more to young that old . . . which is sort of the point. Apparel sales are tied to winning more than design, but I guess we will see how the jerseys do on the shelves. For what it is worth, Manchester United has WAY more "purists" than the Bucs (ManU purists still wear green and gold) and Nike has updated ManU's unis too . . . I think the ManU jersey is one of the top sellers worldwide.
To be fair United kits undergo a slight modification every single year. Most of it is designed to generate sales of the new kit and has been done for years and years.
You guys are missing the main point. NO MORE DRACULA COLLAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dracula didn't use am alarm clock. He woke up when he was hungry. Apparently the Bucs felt they needed to wake up hungry?
...or will we wake up youngry? <--- seriously it doesn't even try and autocorrect that?
It's the NSA, man. They're everywhere.
You guys are missing the main point. NO MORE DRACULA COLLAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dracula didn't use am alarm clock. He woke up when he was hungry. Apparently the Bucs felt they needed to wake up hungry?
...or will we wake up youngry? <--- seriously it doesn't even try and autocorrect that?
LoL dal
I need a moment to take it in...complete re-design
Ok, I have to admit my first take when looking at the uniforms was shock because it is so different. However, after reading the release again and all of the innovations they incorporated into the design, I really think this will look much better once we see all of the pics at 2PM. I will say, every time I look at the picture they did release, I like it better and better. The numbers are hard to digest at first but I want to see how they look when they glow....
Change can be good. I loved the change from the old orange uni to the red and pewter. However change for changes sake can be bad, and what Nike have paid a blind chimpanzee with arthritis to produce is awful. We didn't need to change,
I think the last decade of performance may say different. Right or wrong, the Glazers are trying to keep the Bucs relevant and in this instance the timing almost coincides (by chance, I suspect) with the Bucs trying to reinvent the 1995 change with Lovie etc. If thye win, the jersey will sell off the shelf (as will "throwback" apparel, so they really win either way on apparel, so long as the team improves)
Winning is the reinvention. JAX tried the uniform redo and it got them no more relevant. Bottom line, I suspect for teams without a strong traditional uniform (Green bay, Chicago, Pit) you are gonna see these redesigns about once a decade now so that they can selll new mercy.
there is an article from last year when the Seahawks changed that suggested that some of the team you mention would never change and that could be right. The Bucs brand is not anywhere near that of those teams, so they are more open to change
I think that is the case. You can also see very minor tweaks like what ARI did where they outlined the bird and tilted it down to, laughably, create a more menacing cardinal. This was a pretty big overhaul especially on the jersey fronts.
I need a moment to take it in...complete re-design
Ok, I have to admit my first take when looking at the uniforms was shock because it is so different. However, after reading the release again and all of the innovations they incorporated into the design, I really think this will look much better once we see all of the pics at 2PM. I will say, every time I look at the picture they did release, I like it better and better. The numbers are hard to digest at first but I want to see how they look when they glow....
Honestly, I think making them glow will make them look even more like an alarm clock.
Change can be good. I loved the change from the old orange uni to the red and pewter. However change for changes sake can be bad, and what Nike have paid a blind chimpanzee with arthritis to produce is awful. We didn't need to change,
I think the last decade of performance may say different. Right or wrong, the Glazers are trying to keep the Bucs relevant and in this instance the timing almost coincides (by chance, I suspect) with the Bucs trying to reinvent the 1995 change with Lovie etc. If thye win, the jersey will sell off the shelf (as will "throwback" apparel, so they really win either way on apparel, so long as the team improves)
Winning is the reinvention. JAX tried the uniform redo and it got them no more relevant. Bottom line, I suspect for teams without a strong traditional uniform (Green bay, Chicago, Pit) you are gonna see these redesigns about once a decade now so that they can selll new mercy.
Thanks your lucky stars if it is once every decade. In the English Premier League they change every year. Usually alternating between the home and the away shirt every other year.
Lol - someone wake up Jdub.. This could be epic. :)Like the new uniform overall... I too don't know about the 'digital' numbers... It cheapens the overall look.I'm certain the colors are a bit lighter without that black background darkening the uniform.
The "Digtal" numbers is actually the new pirate font outlined with reflect able chrome. Kinda cool when you say it like that, lol. But someone on Twitter made a good point. Every team is going to start going through this changes as the NFL changes to a more independent look per team. Similar to the Jags, Seahawks, Dolphins and now the Bucs.
+1people generally dislike change, but if you see the uniform as part of an overall strategy, both for the team and the league, its actually pretty cool
So...either you like the new unis, or you just aren't very apt to change?
lol, nice strawman. No, but GENERALLY people dislike change. It's human nature and, as shocking as it sounds . . .. hard core fans and "purists" like change the least
Not quite a strawman, just a question. Can that be said of younger people now days, that they "generally" dislike change?I would disagree about the hardcore fans. I think the homers and "leg-jumpers" will get a stiffy at anything the franchise churns out and will be right there to catch every drop, so to speak. :)
well, that is one way to look at it . . .my point was just that a Buc message board is not the best cross-sample of NFL consumers because it is loaded with purists and purists (of all ages) are generally more resistant to change, hence the name. All people, young and old, generally dislike change, but my guess is that the design would appeal more to young that old . . . which is sort of the point. Apparel sales are tied to winning more than design, but I guess we will see how the jerseys do on the shelves. For what it is worth, Manchester United has WAY more "purists" than the Bucs (ManU purists still wear green and gold) and Nike has updated ManU's unis too . . . I think the ManU jersey is one of the top sellers worldwide.
Im not necessarily talking about apparel sales. That, as you said, relies on other factors besides just simply releasing new product. Im just contesting the mention that "people dislike change", which seems like it was mentioned in an attempt to diminish the opinion of those who dont like the new design.
I like it! All the new unis will look like this. I know, change is hard.
Is there anyway that this is an early April fools joke? I mean they are pretty bad. If they were gonna change them this much, they could have done way better. I have no idea how a team of people would create and or approve this design. Im gonna act like I love them when talking to non bucs fan friends lol, but theyre bad.
At least they fixed the ... I don't know.
