Not happy with the idea. At all. It's a fundamental change. They already almost eliminated the kickoff. Rule changes are bad enough. Simply removing parts of the game is a problem though. After this they will remove the punt probably.You don't change the basic structure of a sport.
The conversion rate is so high it isn't a play. It is perfunctory. You actually would have a higher failure rate on handoffs than PAT's that is how bad it is.
Agree, and there has been cases of players getting seriously hurt on extra point attempts.
It is part of the game. It wouldn't "feel" right if they took it out. Sometimes the kickers miss. And then it may change the game. It adds a certain drama to it all. Without that, the game would be soccer-like, eh?
As mentioned earlier:I really don't believe the NFL is interested in making the game more interesting. They are simply figuring out ways of inflating their wallets. Elimination of extra pointsmeans more TV commercial revenue. No extra point means the networks can break away earlier for commercials. It may not seem like much but it adds up.I also feel that the safety issues that have been a hot topic the last several issues is another example. Not saying that the NFL doesn't care about safety but they are moreinterested in $$$. Hurt players, especially star players, ultimately hit the owner's pocketbooks. Just trying to protect the owner's high dollar investments.When they say it isn't about the money... it's about the money. It's always about the money.just my opinion.
I think they should combine the extra point and kickoff (after a TD) into one play. Let the teams kick a long one near mid field. A good kick through the uprights gives you a point and the other team takes over on the 20. If it's a miss, it's a live ball and that's your kickoff.
I think they should use rugby rules for the extra point. You have to make the extra point from the spot where the ball broke the plain and became a TD. If you scored on the far left side you kick the extra point from the far left side. That would force teams to consider throwing into the middle more.
As mentioned earlier:I really don't believe the NFL is interested in making the game more interesting. They are simply figuring out ways of inflating their wallets. Elimination of extra pointsmeans more TV commercial revenue. No extra point means the networks can break away earlier for commercials. It may not seem like much but it adds up.I also feel that the safety issues that have been a hot topic the last several issues is another example. Not saying that the NFL doesn't care about safety but they are moreinterested in $$$. Hurt players, especially star players, ultimately hit the owner's pocketbooks. Just trying to protect the owner's high dollar investments.When they say it isn't about the money... it's about the money. It's always about the money.just my opinion.
You're delusional. If it was all about TV ad's there are far better ways to accomplish that end then changing the extra point. You sound like my co-worker who thinks all sports are rigged and the outcome is known before they play. It's a business and it is all about the money but that doesn't mean it's a direct impact. They do lots of indirect things to make more money like the England games don't impact anything game wise but they generate more revenue. All turnovers and scores are reviewed slows the game down and take away TV ad time. How does that make money? Indirectly it makes money by improving the quality of the game so people enjoy it more. If people enjoy it more they watch more and buy more. You'll learn this stuff as you get older. :)
Not happy with the idea. At all. It's a fundamental change. They already almost eliminated the kickoff. Rule changes are bad enough. Simply removing parts of the game is a problem though. After this they will remove the punt probably.You don't change the basic structure of a sport.
The conversion rate is so high it isn't a play. It is perfunctory. You actually would have a higher failure rate on handoffs than PAT's that is how bad it is.
Agree, and there has been cases of players getting seriously hurt on extra point attempts.
Lots of guys get injured on picks, let's remove them.Lots of guys get injured from ZBS, let's ban that.At some point you've got to realize that there is no "perfect" product, and you cant keep changing fundamental aspects of the gam, or you end up with retarded sht like this:
I think they should combine the extra point and kickoff (after a TD) into one play. Let the teams kick a long one near mid field. A good kick through the uprights gives you a point and the other team takes over on the 20. If it's a miss, it's a live ball and that's your kickoff.
If you're going to just completely re-write the game, then don't pretend it's still football. Might as well stop letting the players touch the ball with their hands and watch lame azz soccer and call it "football"
I think they should just make the goal posts skinnier . Field goals should be more challenging , these guys are too good.
Ask Martin Gramatica or the Carolina Panthers if extra point attempts matter....
Lots of guys get injured on picks, let's remove them.Lots of guys get injured from ZBS, let's ban that.
Again, this is no longer a meaningful play. It just isn't missed. There are injuries all over the place on the field but at least those plays mean something. This is a play that adds nothing to your experience as a fan....do you enjoy the PAT?
Lots of guys get injured on picks, let's remove them.Lots of guys get injured from ZBS, let's ban that.
Again, this is no longer a meaningful play. It just isn't missed. There are injuries all over the place on the field but at least those plays mean something. This is a play that adds nothing to your experience as a fan....do you enjoy the PAT?
My cousin did when he was sitting at my house watching the game in 03 (he's a Panthers fan) >:(
Lots of guys get injured on picks, let's remove them.Lots of guys get injured from ZBS, let's ban that.
Again, this is no longer a meaningful play. It just isn't missed. There are injuries all over the place on the field but at least those plays mean something. This is a play that adds nothing to your experience as a fan....do you enjoy the PAT?
So move the PAT back and/or make the goal posts skinnier.....don't completely change the game and it's scoring system.
There have been 8 total PAT's missed over the last 2 years (4 each season) out of 2502 total attempts. There are sports like baseball or soccer where the rarity of something (goal, home run) makes it exciting but those are both positive events and almost the core of what you watch the game for and shows the skill of the player. The PAT is the opposite, the rarity is the negative play and the failure is almost never the results of a PAT being blocked because of good effort (it is almost impossible for the defense to block a properly kicked PAT because of the trajectory is so high) but because one of three non-entities in the sports f'ed up - long snapper, holder or kicker.
Lots of guys get injured on picks, let's remove them.Lots of guys get injured from ZBS, let's ban that.
Again, this is no longer a meaningful play. It just isn't missed. There are injuries all over the place on the field but at least those plays mean something. This is a play that adds nothing to your experience as a fan....do you enjoy the PAT?
So move the PAT back and/or make the goal posts skinnier.....don't completely change the game and it's scoring system.
So let me get this straight, giving a team an automatic point .4% of the time more than now "completely" changes the game but moving the kick back so it is a 25 yard kick which would drop there % to 97% success over the last 2 years doesn't change the game despite altering outcomes over 7x as much as the proposed change? I mean now you aren't even making sense.
There have been 8 total PAT's missed over the last 2 years (4 each season) out of 2502 total attempts. There are sports like baseball or soccer where the rarity of something (goal, home run) makes it exciting but those are both positive events and almost the core of what you watch the game for and shows the skill of the player. The PAT is the opposite, the rarity is the negative play and the failure is almost never the results of a PAT being blocked because of good effort (it is almost impossible for the defense to block a properly kicked PAT because of the trajectory is so high) but because one of three non-entities in the sports f'ed up - long snapper, holder or kicker.
As long as you say there has even been only 1 missed PAT which occured you have no argument . That 1 miss changes the score of a game and possibly the outcome . Therefore it still matters.