First of all, whoa on the 50 quote imbedded posts...The stat line on Glennon hasn't changed that much since we went on that 3 game win streak. He is very good when not pressured and very bad when pressured. Up until recently he's had one of the best 10 passer ratings off play action. Glennon hasn't changed. The situations he's being put into have. Our offensive line has crumbled like a stale saltine **CENSORED**. The running game was been eaten alive by superior defensive lines which makes the playaction much less effective. People have gotten tape on him and figured out he can pick you apart if you let him stand in the pocket and that becomes virtually ineffective if you get a guy in his face. Again our line has done a poor job of stopping that and we haven't helped ourselves with Scheme at all. Vertical passing game doesn't work with a pressured Glennon or with Bobby Rainey blocking Aldon Smith. We've failed to make the passing game quicker and have looked worse every week.I'm not exonorating Glennon. I've seen multiple occasions in every game where he held the ball to long, didn't pull the trigger, left the pocket to early or missed open WR. He's done his part in returning this offense back to last in the NFL. He's very uncomfortable standing in the pocket and rightly so. He still doesn't see the game as fast as he should and that causes him to miss reads, get jittery in the pocket and watch the blitz and not the WR.He picked apart the best defense in the league in Seattle and dissected the 49ers on two drives at home. He has the skill but it's become unclear whether he's regressing as the main part of this offense that makes it go, the run game, no longer goes and hasn't in a while.I can say for sure that I'm unsure of what exactly to think of us continuing forward or not with Glennon.
I'm with you man.. on the posts and being unsure about glennon. With our oline the way it is we may need a guy that can escape the pocket and get a first down with his feet from time to time.
First of all, whoa on the 50 quote imbedded posts...The stat line on Glennon hasn't changed that much since we went on that 3 game win streak. He is very good when not pressured and very bad when pressured. Up until recently he's had one of the best 10 passer ratings off play action. Glennon hasn't changed. The situations he's being put into have. Our offensive line has crumbled like a stale saltine **CENSORED**. The running game was been eaten alive by superior defensive lines which makes the playaction much less effective. People have gotten tape on him and figured out he can pick you apart if you let him stand in the pocket and that becomes virtually ineffective if you get a guy in his face. Again our line has done a poor job of stopping that and we haven't helped ourselves with Scheme at all. Vertical passing game doesn't work with a pressured Glennon or with Bobby Rainey blocking Aldon Smith. We've failed to make the passing game quicker and have looked worse every week.I'm not exonorating Glennon. I've seen multiple occasions in every game where he held the ball to long, didn't pull the trigger, left the pocket to early or missed open WR. He's done his part in returning this offense back to last in the NFL. He's very uncomfortable standing in the pocket and rightly so. He still doesn't see the game as fast as he should and that causes him to miss reads, get jittery in the pocket and watch the blitz and not the WR.He picked apart the best defense in the league in Seattle and dissected the 49ers on two drives at home. He has the skill but it's become unclear whether he's regressing as the main part of this offense that makes it go, the run game, no longer goes and hasn't in a while.I can say for sure that I'm unsure of what exactly to think of us continuing forward or not with Glennon.
If they don't fix the o-line and he keeps getting sacked 7 times a week, his career will probably mirror David Carr's. Carr will have to see a sports psychiatrist for the rest of his life after living thru the physical beatings he took in Houston.
First of all, whoa on the 50 quote imbedded posts...The stat line on Glennon hasn't changed that much since we went on that 3 game win streak. He is very good when not pressured and very bad when pressured. Up until recently he's had one of the best 10 passer ratings off play action. Glennon hasn't changed. The situations he's being put into have. Our offensive line has crumbled like a stale saltine **CENSORED**. The running game was been eaten alive by superior defensive lines which makes the playaction much less effective. People have gotten tape on him and figured out he can pick you apart if you let him stand in the pocket and that becomes virtually ineffective if you get a guy in his face. Again our line has done a poor job of stopping that and we haven't helped ourselves with Scheme at all. Vertical passing game doesn't work with a pressured Glennon or with Bobby Rainey blocking Aldon Smith. We've failed to make the passing game quicker and have looked worse every week.I'm not exonorating Glennon. I've seen multiple occasions in every game where he held the ball to long, didn't pull the trigger, left the pocket to early or missed open WR. He's done his part in returning this offense back to last in the NFL. He's very uncomfortable standing in the pocket and rightly so. He still doesn't see the game as fast as he should and that causes him to miss reads, get jittery in the pocket and watch the blitz and not the WR.He picked apart the best defense in the league in Seattle and dissected the 49ers on two drives at home. He has the skill but it's become unclear whether he's regressing as the main part of this offense that makes it go, the run game, no longer goes and hasn't in a while.I can say for sure that I'm unsure of what exactly to think of us continuing forward or not with Glennon.
These "different situations" Glennon has been in the last few days also have a lot to do with defenses scheming against his weaknesses
First of all, whoa on the 50 quote imbedded posts...The stat line on Glennon hasn't changed that much since we went on that 3 game win streak. He is very good when not pressured and very bad when pressured. Up until recently he's had one of the best 10 passer ratings off play action. Glennon hasn't changed. The situations he's being put into have. Our offensive line has crumbled like a stale saltine **CENSORED**. The running game was been eaten alive by superior defensive lines which makes the playaction much less effective. People have gotten tape on him and figured out he can pick you apart if you let him stand in the pocket and that becomes virtually ineffective if you get a guy in his face. Again our line has done a poor job of stopping that and we haven't helped ourselves with Scheme at all. Vertical passing game doesn't work with a pressured Glennon or with Bobby Rainey blocking Aldon Smith. We've failed to make the passing game quicker and have looked worse every week.I'm not exonorating Glennon. I've seen multiple occasions in every game where he held the ball to long, didn't pull the trigger, left the pocket to early or missed open WR. He's done his part in returning this offense back to last in the NFL. He's very uncomfortable standing in the pocket and rightly so. He still doesn't see the game as fast as he should and that causes him to miss reads, get jittery in the pocket and watch the blitz and not the WR.He picked apart the best defense in the league in Seattle and dissected the 49ers on two drives at home. He has the skill but it's become unclear whether he's regressing as the main part of this offense that makes it go, the run game, no longer goes and hasn't in a while.I can say for sure that I'm unsure of what exactly to think of us continuing forward or not with Glennon.
These "different situations" Glennon has been in the last few days also have a lot to do with defenses scheming against his weaknesses
Nail on the head.
So you guys believe that the majority of the offenses problems lie with glen non? Rather than the coaches, scheme, run game , and receiving core?
So you guys believe that the majority of the offenses problems lie with glen non? Rather than the coaches, scheme, run game , and receiving core?
He's not cute enough for the posters here.
So you guys believe that the majority of the offenses problems lie with glen non? Rather than the coaches, scheme, run game , and receiving core?
YES. Every QB that tries to hold the ball for too long gets sacked a lot. He's lucky he didn't end up like Tannehill holding the ball forever. Dude is a statue against the Rams. The Rams don't give you more than 3 seconds to make a decision and Glennon folded like a cheap tent in the 4th quarter with the game on the line. Sack after sack after sack because he couldn't pull the trigger. I have seen enough of this cannon. Time to decommission the cannon before someone gets hurt.
I think the scheme is the biggest problem which is why I want to bring someone in to seriously compete with Glennon for the starting job next year. Glennon has definitely not shown enough that we can just hand him over the starting job next season.
So you guys believe that the majority of the offenses problems lie with glen non? Rather than the coaches, scheme, run game , and receiving core?
YES. Every QB that tries to hold the ball for too long gets sacked a lot. He's lucky he didn't end up like Tannehill holding the ball forever. Dude is a statue against the Rams. The Rams don't give you more than 3 seconds to make a decision and Glennon folded like a cheap tent in the 4th quarter with the game on the line. Sack after sack after sack because he couldn't pull the trigger. I have seen enough of this cannon. Time to decommission the cannon before someone gets hurt.
You either don't watch the games or you really are just stupid.
Glennon did not do enough to be the unquestioned leader and we didn't invest so much in him he HAS to be the man. That said, he has shown enough I think you want him in the mix to possibly be the man. He is gonna get better. QBs get better from year 1 to year 2. The question is how much better in Glennon's case. I want him fighting for a starting gig but I want someone in the mix that provides a baseline of semi competence he has to clear to win the job. Face it we won't sign a Tom Brady level QB in the offseason so it is gonna be Glennon versus a Campbell, Locker, Schaub level guy so truthfully no matter what you think we'd better hope Glwnnon is the best QB in our roster in 2014.
Mike Glennon was sacked 3 times on the last 5 offensive plays of the game for Tampa Bay. He held the ball too long and made bad decision after bad decision, trying to scramble out of the pocket and stepping up into pressure. My question is WTF were you watching? After the all 22 is put up I will come back and show you pictures if you want. 3rd and 2 at TB 44 (Shotgun) M.Glennon sacked at TB 36 for -8 yards (C.Long). 4th and 10 at TB 36 (Shotgun) M.Glennon sacked at TB 32 for -4 yards (R.Quinn). DRIVE TOTALS: TB 13, STL 23, 5 plays, 12 yards, 1:20 elapsedSt. Louis Rams at 1:55 TB STL1st and 10 at TB 32 Z.Stacy left tackle to TB 19 for 13 yards (J.Banks). Timeout #1 by TB at 01:45. 1st and 10 at TB 19 Z.Stacy right guard to TB 18 for 1 yard (K.Tandy). Timeout #2 by TB at 01:42. 2nd and 9 at TB 18 Z.Stacy left guard to TB 15 for 3 yards (L.David). Timeout #3 by TB at 01:37. 3rd and 6 at TB 15 Z.Stacy right tackle to TB 12 for 3 yards (M.Foster). Timeout #2 by SL at 00:50. 4th and 3 at TB 12 K.Clemens left end to TB 16 for -4 yards (J.Banks). DRIVE TOTALS: TB 13, STL 23, 5 plays, 16 yards, 1:10 elapsedTampa Bay Buccaneers at 0:45 TB STL1st and 10 at TB 16 (Shotgun) M.Glennon pass incomplete short right to T.Wright [R.Quinn]. 2nd and 10 at TB 16 (Shotgun) M.Glennon pass short left to C.Owusu ran ob at TB 25 for 9 yards (J.Jenkins). 3rd and 1 at TB 25 (Shotgun) M.Glennon sacked at TB 18 for -7 yards (R.Quinn). End of Game
Mike Glennon was sacked 3 times on the last 5 offensive plays of the game for Tampa Bay. He held the ball too long and made bad decision after bad decision, trying to scramble out of the pocket and stepping up into pressure. My question is WTF were you watching? After the all 22 is put up I will come back and show you pictures if you want. 3rd and 2 at TB 44 (Shotgun) M.Glennon sacked at TB 36 for -8 yards (C.Long). 4th and 10 at TB 36 (Shotgun) M.Glennon sacked at TB 32 for -4 yards (R.Quinn). DRIVE TOTALS: TB 13, STL 23, 5 plays, 12 yards, 1:20 elapsedSt. Louis Rams at 1:55 TB STL1st and 10 at TB 32 Z.Stacy left tackle to TB 19 for 13 yards (J.Banks). Timeout #1 by TB at 01:45. 1st and 10 at TB 19 Z.Stacy right guard to TB 18 for 1 yard (K.Tandy). Timeout #2 by TB at 01:42. 2nd and 9 at TB 18 Z.Stacy left guard to TB 15 for 3 yards (L.David). Timeout #3 by TB at 01:37. 3rd and 6 at TB 15 Z.Stacy right tackle to TB 12 for 3 yards (M.Foster). Timeout #2 by SL at 00:50. 4th and 3 at TB 12 K.Clemens left end to TB 16 for -4 yards (J.Banks). DRIVE TOTALS: TB 13, STL 23, 5 plays, 16 yards, 1:10 elapsedTampa Bay Buccaneers at 0:45 TB STL1st and 10 at TB 16 (Shotgun) M.Glennon pass incomplete short right to T.Wright [R.Quinn]. 2nd and 10 at TB 16 (Shotgun) M.Glennon pass short left to C.Owusu ran ob at TB 25 for 9 yards (J.Jenkins). 3rd and 1 at TB 25 (Shotgun) M.Glennon sacked at TB 18 for -7 yards (R.Quinn). End of Game
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The o-line was shit when Freeman was in and it is shit with Glennon. The line needs to be fixed.