Nothing so far from PR or anybody else about who the Bucs are scheduling, calling, or thinking about. Only potential candidates, which they are just grasping at out of the blue. But nevertheless, here are the guys. Todd Monken is an obvious candidate from the Bucs and fans perspectives, but probably not from the Monken perspective.
Questions:
1) Is this a Bowles hire or a Licht hire? Licht may want somebody with experience who can be a HC candidate in the future, such as Frank Reich. Bowles may not want to be staring at his future replacement on the other side of the ball. Bowles may want a young up and comer who has some new ideas and is just happy to be there.
2) How relevant is Arians anymore? What is his future with the Bucs? Leftwich was his guy, as was Bowles. As was Christensen, McNair, and Garver - all Arians guys who were fired. Those were Arians guys on his coaching tree, and I don't know that there are any more logical guys from the Arians tree. Harold Goodwin and Joe Gilbert are Arians guys who were not fired... yet. But is having Arians on your Linkedin page really a positive anymore? I find it hard to believe he will have any input into the selection of the OC, and that affects how he evaluates talent as well. Will Arians be in tuned with what the new OC wants when he is out scouting at the Senior Bowl or looking at free agents around the league or whatever he does now? Will Arians be comfortable with a former head coach like Reich who will have pull and perhaps pull against Arians? As Arians' people are summarily dispatched, I have to believe his influence is being dispatched along with them.
3) What's the holdup? Why haven't we heard anything? Other teams are interviewing guys.
What's the holdup? Why haven't we heard anything? Other teams are interviewing guys.
Perhaps they are conducting the interviews more privately. The fact that we haven’t heard anything doesn't mean nothing's happening.
Or, maybe they have been putting together their lists and will be contacting candidates this week. No need to worry.
How relevant is Arians anymore? What is his future with the Bucs? Leftwich was his guy, as was Bowles.
they kept the most senior offensive coach (Goodwin) and his right hand guy on the O-line coaching. PR didn't mention Goodwin as one of the OC candidates, but he was a successful OC in AZ and, interestingly, an open critic of the play calling (ie getting away from the run) this year.
Maybe Goodwin is the "back to the future" Arians candidate? Bet fans would love that
Yes I agree I'm sure the Bucs are working on it, but if they had an actual interview scheduled that info tends to be announced to the media.
Yes, they had a late start because they had a playoff game, but even so they should be well under way with the process, which makes me wonder if the "in house" option isn't something being seriously considered, which would be Goodwin, as most of the other guys have been fired. Do we want an Arians guy? All those guys who were fired were Arians guys. Why would we go ahead and hire one of them? But maybe that's what they are thinking about.
The other factor is Brady but fool me twice it's on me. The Bucs have to do what they have to do to hire their coaches and move ahead. They can't wait around to see what Brady is going to do and let that dictate their actions. That will just create uncertainty and confusion. They have to proceed as if Brady is not returning and force Brady to fit in to the Bucs timetable, not the other way around.
While I doubt it happens, would love an OC who’s analytic-driven.
All those guys who were fired were Arians guys. Why would we go ahead and hire one of them?
Arians:
SB winning HC
in the Ring of Honor
Senior Football Consultant
"helped bring Brady here"
Not saying they should go with Goodwin at all, just saying that the "pull off the band aid" approach would involve moving on from Arians at some level.
Maybe the holdover of Goodwin is part of the Arian's led pitch to Brady to come back? Brady, Bowles and Good win all wanted more running. The other coach retained (for now) is the O-line coach? Goodwin was asst HC and run game coordinator
hard to say. I think in his article SR alluded to future changes depending on OC, Brady
For question 1..Its gotta be a Bowles hire.. totally unfair to him to if he doesn't have major control of who his own OC is. Good news for us is that it sounds like Bowles wants fresh modern innovative offense. Thats real encouraging.
question 2 - Arians seems pretty irrelevant at this point. time for his to kick back and play golf.
Q3 - This is typical for this org. one of the quietist and most tight vested orgs in the NFL.
sidenote: We have to sit back and to see what the direction of this team is from a roster stand point too. Different expectations should be had if were starting Brady in 2023 or starting Trask. If we're starting Trask, Id feel kinda bad for Bowles if he doesnt have an extra year of job security assured to him.. a QB he didnt draft, a cap hell he didnt create, and a brand new OC/offensive staff. I personally wont be calling for his firing if we have a lousy season next year with Trask.
on Q3 . . any announcement implicates a direction on Brady and I assume they dont make any move without knowing Brady's plan because that has a huger impact on the team and ticket sales.
Lots of fans come back for "Brady's last stand." Not so much for "introducing Bowles with his new staff."
If we're starting Trask, Id feel kinda bad for Bowles if he doesnt have an extra year of job security assured to him.
I wouldn’t. He’s simply not a good head coach.
Had a chance to fire Lefty and passed. The team looked like it took on his personality.
Helluva nice guy and good DC.
But, barring a miracle deep run next season; we should blow the whole damn thing up (from a coaching perspective).
Get younger minds in the building. Get modern.
If we're starting Trask, Id feel kinda bad for Bowles if he doesnt have an extra year of job security assured to him.
I wouldn’t. He’s simply not a good head coach.
Had a chance to fire Lefty and passed. The team looked like it took on his personality.
Helluva nice guy and good DC.
But, barring a miracle deep run next season; we should blow the whole damn thing up (from a coaching perspective).
Get younger minds in the building. Get modern.
He failed year 1 as HC. I cant say hes simply not a good HC yet. He delegates what is not his area of expertise, which is fine. The problem is he was strapped with an incompetent OC who was gifted a job by Arians and a decimated Oline. What was he going to do if he fired Leftwich after the bye? hand the OC off to Clyde? Either way we were still going to have an Oline with D.Smith playing the worst of his career, no Jensen, and finishing the year with our LG injured and Wirfs banged up. Id just be careful what you wish for.. our defense had no business getting 45 sacks with that Dline.. thats a major credit to Bowles. we are a decent Dlineman away from being a top 5 sack team.
also that was a majorly disappointing clown show of a season.. yet the off the record reports are that the players all love Bowles.. I find that interesting tbh. I was fully expecting to hear some gripes leaking through. Any through the grapvine talk about Bradys discontent has been specific towards "offensive coaching staff".
He failed year 1 as HC. I cant say hes simply not a good HC yet.
His inability to change and adapt as HC doesn't give as much confidence. I wish it wasn't the case, because I like Bowles the man. But he ain't the guy.
The stuff we heard about him in New York has come to fruition here, unfortunately.
It remains to be seen if Bowles can hire a better coaching staff than he had last year.
He failed year 1 as HC. I cant say hes simply not a good HC yet.
This was Year 5 for him as a HC.
He has a 34-50 record.
And 8 of those were with him getting gifted a playoff caliber team.
As I said, now knowing that he could of made a move at OC going into the bye and standing pat, just makes me wonder about his decision making/ability to adapt/etc.
He’ll get a year. But, unless he drastically changes in many areas, I’m not giving him beyond 2023.
He failed year 1 as HC. I cant say hes simply not a good HC yet.
His inability to change and adapt as HC doesn't give as much confidence. I wish it wasn't the case, because I like Bowles the man. But he ain't the guy.
The stuff we heard about him in New York has come to fruition here, unfortunately.
well we'll find out, one more year to know for sure is fine by me and the right call imo. The stars are aligning for 2024 imo.. if brady goes somewhere else then all his cap is on the books in 2023, but will be cleared up in 2024... we could be picking possibly in the top 10 in 2024.. maybe a new regime. Im feeling weirdly optimistic abuot 2024 being the year we go all in on the new young era.. not totally 2023.. not really sure what the ideal situation is this upcoming season - its awkward on many levels - salary cap, coaching, roster.
Random sidenote.. the thing not being talked about enough is Wirfs moving to LT. sorry for those who dont want to mess up a good thing... but it has to happen regardless of which direction we go in draft, FA, coaching... we have a once in a franchise talent at tackle.. the kid has mega ability - he can make the move and be a pro bowl LT.. the timing to make that switch couldnt possibly be better than now. Not to mentioned weve witnessed scrubs sub in at RT and preform adequately. that has not been the case at LT.
He failed year 1 as HC. I cant say hes simply not a good HC yet.
This was Year 5 for him as a HC.
He has a 34-50 record.
And 8 of those were with him getting gifted a playoff caliber team.
As I said, now knowing that he could of made a move at OC going into the bye and standing pat, just makes me wonder about his decision making/ability to adapt/etc.
He’ll get a year. But, unless he drastically changes in many areas, I’m not giving him beyond 2023.
Fair enough.. i have no loyalties towards him. I just know that if the Glazers feel that way as well, and were starting Trask in 2023 than obviously Bowles is done.
I dont see 8 wins with Trask next year.
