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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ju3wFsGPNw Just watching some of his vid now. I just don't see him fitting. Against Ohio this is.Analysis: Positives;: He is really good at shooting gaps. If an OL gets out of position he will run right through the hole to the QB .He is really good at locating the ball and has great awareness of where the ball is at all times, on both running and passing downs. In run defense he has the ability to run through the holes that are available to track down the ball carrier, while moving laterally and avoiding contact. He is fast once he gets moving a bit.Good tackler who does a good job of wrapping up. Negatives:Looks like a DLineman out in pass coverage. He loses track of the ball and that seems to throw him off when he focuses on the receiver instead of the ball. He lacks the ability to flip his hips and run in pass coverage and often looks out of position. Needs a lot of work in pass defense. He can get stymied trying to rush up the middle if there are no holes. Doesn't display a bull rush at all. While fast at top speed lacks initial quickness in pass coverage. He gets out-physicalled when a lineman gets his hands on him. Does not use his hands well to disengage blockers. Further analysis tells me that this kid has the potential to be one of the best 3-4 LB'S a few years down the road if he gets drafted into the right system. In the wrong system, like a 4-3 defense he would not be able to reach his potential. He does not have the strength to play 4-3 DE,  evidenced by his lack of a bull rush and lack of a consistent edge rush. . He would be hard pressed to beat an NFL LT.

 
Posted : Jan. 31, 2014 7:15 am
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ju3wFsGPNw Just watching some of his vid now. I just don't see him fitting. Against Ohio this is.Analysis: Positives;: He is really good at shooting gaps. If an OL gets out of position he will run right through the hole to the QB .He is really good at locating the ball and has great awareness of where the ball is at all times, on both running and passing downs. In run defense he has the ability to run through the holes that are available to track down the ball carrier, while moving laterally and avoiding contact. He is fast once he gets moving a bit.Good tackler who does a good job of wrapping up. Negatives:Looks like a DLineman out in pass coverage. He loses track of the ball and that seems to throw him off when he focuses on the receiver instead of the ball. He lacks the ability to flip his hips and run in pass coverage and often looks out of position. Needs a lot of work in pass defense. He can get stymied trying to rush up the middle if there are no holes. Doesn't display a bull rush at all. While fast at top speed lacks initial quickness in pass coverage. He gets out-physicalled when a lineman gets his hands on him. Does not use his hands well to disengage blockers. Further analysis tells me that this kid has the potential to be one of the best 3-4 LB'S a few years down the road if he gets drafted into the right system. In the wrong system, like a 4-3 defense he would not be able to reach his potential. He does not have the strength to play 4-3 DE,  evidenced by his lack of a bull rush and lack of a consistent edge rush. . He would be hard pressed to beat an NFL LT.

I got to disagree with you man.  All your PROS and CONS point to him being a much better 4-3 DE than a 3-4 OLB.  Good at shooting gaps, locating the ball, and tackling.  Poor at pass coverage and lacks top end speed.  Why do you think that makes him a fit for a OLB?  Look at the tape from the UGA or Ohio St game and then tell me he doesnt have the strength to play DE.

 
Posted : Jan. 31, 2014 10:18 am
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ju3wFsGPNw Just watching some of his vid now. I just don't see him fitting. Against Ohio this is.Analysis: Positives;: He is really good at shooting gaps. If an OL gets out of position he will run right through the hole to the QB .He is really good at locating the ball and has great awareness of where the ball is at all times, on both running and passing downs. In run defense he has the ability to run through the holes that are available to track down the ball carrier, while moving laterally and avoiding contact. He is fast once he gets moving a bit.Good tackler who does a good job of wrapping up. Negatives:Looks like a DLineman out in pass coverage. He loses track of the ball and that seems to throw him off when he focuses on the receiver instead of the ball. He lacks the ability to flip his hips and run in pass coverage and often looks out of position. Needs a lot of work in pass defense. He can get stymied trying to rush up the middle if there are no holes. Doesn't display a bull rush at all. While fast at top speed lacks initial quickness in pass coverage. He gets out-physicalled when a lineman gets his hands on him. Does not use his hands well to disengage blockers. Further analysis tells me that this kid has the potential to be one of the best 3-4 LB'S a few years down the road if he gets drafted into the right system. In the wrong system, like a 4-3 defense he would not be able to reach his potential. He does not have the strength to play 4-3 DE,  evidenced by his lack of a bull rush and lack of a consistent edge rush. . He would be hard pressed to beat an NFL LT.

I got to disagree with you man.  All your PROS and CONS point to him being a much better 4-3 DE than a 3-4 OLB.  Good at shooting gaps, locating the ball, and tackling.  Poor at pass coverage and lacks top end speed.  Why do you think that makes him a fit for a OLB?  Look at the tape from the UGA or Ohio St game and then tell me he doesnt have the strength to play DE.

His lack of cover ability limits him to a 3-4 LB where he can be put on the edge or when he does drop into coverage he would be covering a small area.He could also work out in the middle in a 3-4.I don't see him working out as a 4-3 DE at all. He needs a big 5 technique to shelter him out on the edge. He is more of a gap shooter than he is a physical player. He doesn't have any handwork to speak of no array of pass rush moves and no bull rush. IMO there is absolutely no indication that he could be a full time lineman. 4-3 LB is out of the question . We will only have 2 LB'S on the field for a vast majority of the plays in today's league. A 4-3 LB nowadays needs to be very good in pass defense. He is dreadful in coverage. Right now Mack is the most overrated defensive player in the entire draft IMO. It's easy to get caught up watching all the splash plays and highlights but when you dig a bit deeper you find that this kid is not a perfect player. Far from it.

 
Posted : Jan. 31, 2014 8:43 pm
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Too much hype: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft They are saying possible no.1 overall?  I think he compares to Ray Lewis. If I was running a 3-4 defense I would be excited about him. His footwork can be improved and he can be sufficient as a 3-4 MLB. He's not there yet though. It's going to take the right situation for him.

 
Posted : Jan. 31, 2014 9:11 pm
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You think a guy you compare to ray Lewis is overrated?

 
Posted : Jan. 31, 2014 9:36 pm
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You think a guy you compare to ray Lewis is overrated?

They are saying no.1 overall! Yes for a player like this that is very overrated. Ray Lewis would have been a disaster in a 4-3 defense as well.

 
Posted : Feb. 1, 2014 8:31 pm
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Ray Lewis was fantastic in the 4-3 earlier in his career.

 
Posted : Feb. 1, 2014 10:15 pm
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Mack would e way down my board.  You can get a situational pass rusher later.  If we drafted him over a stud ot or WR we are screwed.  If we ran a 3-4 I probably don't worry about spending a late 1st on him.

 
Posted : Feb. 2, 2014 2:53 am
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Both Mack and Barr....while good college players, I don't see either of them pro bowl talent.And if Tampa drafts either, there isn't enough defensive front 7 talent for either of them to make an impact.

 
Posted : Feb. 2, 2014 3:55 am
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