What kills me is how is play was affected on the field by his life style off, that's when I have issues!! 2 catches in Dallas he cost his team
This was probably the worst part of the article, and a little surprised it suckered people.1. The party was two nights before the game.2. Do people think this was the only time Williams partied during the season? No partying when here performed well?
Correct, pro athletes party a lot.and there's no mention in the story that Williams was even there or if he was, that he drank.What TBT wrote is akin to a witch hunt.
What kills me is how is play was affected on the field by his life style off, that's when I have issues!! 2 catches in Dallas he cost his team
No partying when here performed well?
He didn't play well at all in 2013.
Lovie Smith and Licht don't sound happy to all, so it's stupid for people to suggest this is just a sensationalized media creation.
If I were them I wouldn't be happy either and what the TBT printed today was sensationalized.
The Times article coupled with the PR article expose a serious issue with MW19. This isn't made up, and simply can't be written off as media nonsense.
oh you just watch ;)
and there's no mention in the story that Williams was even there or if he was, that he drank.
His house. His responsibility.
Oh yes, kudos to the TBT for getting a quote from a disgruntled neighbor! ::)"Quick, stop the presses"
like I said people see the world through their own lens
and this is lens that Reynolds was looking through....."Englehard told Roy Cummings of the Tampa Tribune that he was unaware of Williams getting fined for anything more than a uniform violation, at least that's how Cummings positioned Englehard's response on Twitter. Just because Englehard was unaware of it doesn't mean that it didn't happen. I called Englehard an hour ago and hope to hear back from him.".....Reynolds seems to be skeptical of what Cummings wrote but at the same time admits he hasn't spoken with Engelhard.
BUT at this point you are voicing your displeasure, I think, over the CORRECT information coming out . . right?
You're more than welcome to post any of this proof you claim to have.
What kills me is how is play was affected on the field by his life style off, that's when I have issues!! 2 catches in Dallas he cost his team
This was probably the worst part of the article, and a little surprised it suckered people.1. The party was two nights before the game.2. Do people think this was the only time Williams partied during the season? No partying when here performed well?
Correct, pro athletes party a lot.and there's no mention in the story that Williams was even there or if he was, that he drank.What TBT wrote is akin to a witch hunt.
FWIW, I'm not defending Williams. He's pretty clearly acting like an idiot. But putting a piss-poor performance by the entire offense in Dallas on a Mike Williams party from two days earlier is ridiculous. Williams was the team's leading receiver that day, for God's sake.
Lovie Smith and Licht don't sound happy to all, so it's stupid for people to suggest this is just a sensationalized media creation.
If I were them I wouldn't be happy either and what the TBT printed today was sensationalized.
The Times article coupled with the PR article expose a serious issue with MW19. This isn't made up, and simply can't be written off as media nonsense.
right on cue:
What kills me is how is play was affected on the field by his life style off, that's when I have issues!! 2 catches in Dallas he cost his team
This was probably the worst part of the article, and a little surprised it suckered people.1. The party was two nights before the game.2. Do people think this was the only time Williams partied during the season? No partying when here performed well?
Correct, pro athletes party a lot.and there's no mention in the story that Williams was even there or if he was, that he drank.What TBT wrote is akin to a witch hunt.
That is basically what it boils down to. You can point to a few journalistic errors/oversights in both articles but no one can deny Mike Williams is acting like a complete idiot and his future with the team is in doubt right now.
Oh yes, kudos to the TBT for getting a quote from a disgruntled neighbor! ::)"Quick, stop the presses"
like I said people see the world through their own lens
and this is lens that Reynolds was looking through....."Englehard told Roy Cummings of the Tampa Tribune that he was unaware of Williams getting fined for anything more than a uniform violation, at least that's how Cummings positioned Englehard's response on Twitter. Just because Englehard was unaware of it doesn't mean that it didn't happen. I called Englehard an hour ago and hope to hear back from him.".....Reynolds seems to be skeptical of what Cummings wrote but at the same time admits he hasn't spoken with Engelhard.
BUT at this point you are voicing your displeasure, I think, over the CORRECT information coming out . . right?
You're more than welcome to post any of this proof you claim to have.
ha, I did . . . PR invited the agent to respond (i.e., to correct PR) . . . he did not. Now, you're free to find any "proof" you can to counter that . . . .I will not hold my breath . . . "you can't prove I am wrong" is a common refrain here . . . . doesn't mean the posters that use it are right, in fact, it often means the opposite.
What kills me is how is play was affected on the field by his life style off, that's when I have issues!! 2 catches in Dallas he cost his team
This was probably the worst part of the article, and a little surprised it suckered people.1. The party was two nights before the game.2. Do people think this was the only time Williams partied during the season? No partying when here performed well?
Correct, pro athletes party a lot.and there's no mention in the story that Williams was even there or if he was, that he drank.What TBT wrote is akin to a witch hunt.
FWIW, I'm not defending Williams. He's pretty clearly acting like an idiot. But putting a piss-poor performance by the entire offense in Dallas on a Mike Williams party from two days earlier is ridiculous. Williams was the team's leading receiver that day, for God's sake.
Nor am I. However, I'm not going to just swallow an obvious hit piece to justify a witch hunt. The guy sounds like he needs to get his priorities in order. Pretty damn quick.
That is basically what it boils down to. You can point to a few journalistic errors/oversights in both articles but no one can deny Mike Williams is acting like a complete idiot and his future with the team is in doubt right now.
you just wait . . . ;)you're right and that is what makes it funny and if you will notice the "oh yeah, you cant prove it" response coming out now. That is what happens when posters looks at the facts and find dozens of facts on the opposite side of the argument and only a couple on the other. The discussion switches from looking at all the facts -- in total -- to "oh yeah, prove it"
I think the Bucs actually hosted the party in William's house . . it's a conspiracy
Oh yes, kudos to the TBT for getting a quote from a disgruntled neighbor! ::)"Quick, stop the presses"
like I said people see the world through their own lens
and this is lens that Reynolds was looking through....."Englehard told Roy Cummings of the Tampa Tribune that he was unaware of Williams getting fined for anything more than a uniform violation, at least that's how Cummings positioned Englehard's response on Twitter. Just because Englehard was unaware of it doesn't mean that it didn't happen. I called Englehard an hour ago and hope to hear back from him.".....Reynolds seems to be skeptical of what Cummings wrote but at the same time admits he hasn't spoken with Engelhard.
BUT at this point you are voicing your displeasure, I think, over the CORRECT information coming out . . right?
You're more than welcome to post any of this proof you claim to have.
ha, I did . . . PR invited the agent to respond (i.e., to correct PR) . . . he did not. Now, you're free to find any "proof" you can to counter that . . . .I will not hold my breath . . . "you can't prove I am wrong" is a common refrain here . . . . doesn't mean the posters that use it are right, in fact, it often means the opposite.
He did comment but you didn't like his answer. It doesn't fit your character assassination spree.When people posted a mug shot allegedly of you being arrested for drunk driving you didn't respond either.So, I guess by your own argument you're guilty of drunk driving.Cool.
Oh yes, kudos to the TBT for getting a quote from a disgruntled neighbor! ::)"Quick, stop the presses"
like I said people see the world through their own lens
and this is lens that Reynolds was looking through....."Englehard told Roy Cummings of the Tampa Tribune that he was unaware of Williams getting fined for anything more than a uniform violation, at least that's how Cummings positioned Englehard's response on Twitter. Just because Englehard was unaware of it doesn't mean that it didn't happen. I called Englehard an hour ago and hope to hear back from him.".....Reynolds seems to be skeptical of what Cummings wrote but at the same time admits he hasn't spoken with Engelhard.
BUT at this point you are voicing your displeasure, I think, over the CORRECT information coming out . . right?
You're more than welcome to post any of this proof you claim to have.
ha, I did . . . PR invited the agent to respond (i.e., to correct PR) . . . he did not. Now, you're free to find any "proof" you can to counter that . . . .I will not hold my breath . . . "you can't prove I am wrong" is a common refrain here . . . . doesn't mean the posters that use it are right, in fact, it often means the opposite.
He did comment but you didn't like his answer.
Not trying to change your mind, that is a fool's errand but just so it is clear, this is the timing;1. PR reports on fines2. Agent says he is "unaware" of a type of fine (that is a classic non-denial denial)3. PR reports, essentially, that it stands by its story and notes the non-denial denial and INVITES the agent to correct them4. cricketsthe agent is very happy there are people like you in the world, his comment was directed at that segment
Oh yes, kudos to the TBT for getting a quote from a disgruntled neighbor! ::)"Quick, stop the presses"
like I said people see the world through their own lens
and this is lens that Reynolds was looking through....."Englehard told Roy Cummings of the Tampa Tribune that he was unaware of Williams getting fined for anything more than a uniform violation, at least that's how Cummings positioned Englehard's response on Twitter. Just because Englehard was unaware of it doesn't mean that it didn't happen. I called Englehard an hour ago and hope to hear back from him.".....Reynolds seems to be skeptical of what Cummings wrote but at the same time admits he hasn't spoken with Engelhard.
BUT at this point you are voicing your displeasure, I think, over the CORRECT information coming out . . right?
You're more than welcome to post any of this proof you claim to have.
ha, I did . . . PR invited the agent to respond (i.e., to correct PR) . . . he did not. Now, you're free to find any "proof" you can to counter that . . . .I will not hold my breath . . . "you can't prove I am wrong" is a common refrain here . . . . doesn't mean the posters that use it are right, in fact, it often means the opposite.
He did comment but you didn't like his answer.
Not trying to change your mind, that is a fool's errand but just so it is clear, this is the timing;1. PR reports on fines2. Agent says he is "unaware" of a type of fine (that is a classic non-denial denial)3. PR reports, essentially, that it stands by its story and notes the non-denial denial and INVITES the agent to correct them4. cricketsthe agent is very happy there are people like you in the world, his comment was directed at that segment
You would have been begging for me to be on a jury that would otherwise convict you for drinking and driving. Assuming you're innocent of that charge. Which apparently, by your own logic you're not, since you haven't denied it.Let he w/o sin cast the first stone, Huh, Vin?
