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He will be a jet or a Saint , probably a Saint , I think Rodgers ends up a jet .

 
Posted : Feb. 12, 2023 6:35 pm
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

"Sources: #Raiders QB Derek Carr has informed the team he won’t accept a trade to the #Saintsor any other team. The team is expected to release him and he’ll be a top free agent."
 
- Per Ian Rapoport.
 

 

Exactly.  Puts the Saints in a better situation not to have to give up draft picks for when Carr ultimately joins them.

 

Raiders fucked up by deactiving Carr to expect any trade value. 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 13, 2023 1:24 pm
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...and the fact that the Bucs didnt even request to meet with Carr is telling on what their plans are this year

 

tank city boys 

 
Posted : Feb. 13, 2023 1:25 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

...and the fact that the Bucs didnt even request to meet with Carr is telling on what their plans are this year

 

tank city boys 

Or, they weren't going to bother visiting with a QB that they have no way to fit under the cap. What's the point?

They're not tanking. They will be resetting the cap, and they'll most certainly be having more than the usual roster turnover, but I don't believe this organization wants to tank a season. 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 13, 2023 2:16 pm
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No, they aren't tanking. Todd Bowles isn't tanking.  That doesn't mean they won't lose.  But the division still sucks. There's no reason not to go out and try to win it. You have to go out there and win every year.  Even if you tank, you aren't guaranteed to get the top pick.  The Jets tanked for Trevor and won two games, but Jacksonville won one game.  So the Jaguars got Trevor. The Jets got Zach Wilson and the Niners traded up to get Trey Lance.   So you don't set out to tank in the NFL.  You may have to reassess half-way through based on how things are going.  

 
Posted : Feb. 13, 2023 4:20 pm
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Posted by: @catherder

No, they aren't tanking. Todd Bowles isn't tanking.  That doesn't mean they won't lose. 

They may lose big. We don't know what the coaching staff and the roster looks like, but it's going to be a transitional year. Bowles won't be judged on the record only, but on whether he made the most of the talent on hand. This is definitely a more depressing situation than I had imagined it a month ago. I didn't think finding an offensive coordinator would be this much of a problem.

 
Posted : Feb. 13, 2023 5:00 pm
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Posted by: @buccaneernw

Posted by: @catherder

No, they aren't tanking. Todd Bowles isn't tanking.  That doesn't mean they won't lose. 

They may lose big. We don't know what the coaching staff and the roster looks like, but it's going to be a transitional year. Bowles won't be judged on the record only, but on whether he made the most of the talent on hand. This is definitely a more depressing situation than I had imagined it a month ago. I didn't think finding an offensive coordinator would be this much of a problem.

I don't think you need to get depressed.  Just look at any given year in the NFL and things are never as they seem when offseason is over and the real bullets start to fly.  Sure there are some teams who you know are going to be in the Superbowl picture and some who aren't.  We won the division and would have been 9-8 if we didn't tank the last game on purpose.  We did that with an OC who was fired for putting forth an impotent offense.  So honestly, I don't think the offense is going to get worse.  

I just have a sneaking feeling that the Bucs were as over it with the Brady show as the rest of us.  We were mentally prepared to move on when he retired the first time, and when he came back it just threw us into neutral as fans and as a team.  It was a season that wasn't supposed to happen.  Now the Brady show is gone and a lot of people will be out to prove there's more to this team than Tom Brady.  I do think the players will have something to prove, and that goes a long way in this league.  

 

 
Posted : Feb. 13, 2023 6:37 pm
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Carr going to the Saints?

But I thought Winston was their franchise qb?

 

Huh...

 

Weird 

 
Posted : Feb. 13, 2023 9:51 pm
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Bucs 29th best odds to win superbowl next year

They were 2nd best odds entering last season.

do the Bucs try to improve those odds to 24 or tank the season?

Give me rodgers, Jackson, Carr. Unlikely

next level would be jimmy G and then to lesser extent baker mayfield.

if can’t land those, why not tank? Wouldn’t you rather have the next Joe burrow instead of whatever the fuck you called the 15 years preceding Tom Brady 

like I said, we will know by the QB approach what they decide, but if it’s trask gabbert, the writing is on the wall 

 
Posted : Feb. 14, 2023 1:21 pm
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It’s also likely Brady coordinated with Bucs on when to fire papers.

 

they likely decided let’s take the $35 million cap hit this year 

Loyal Tom wouldn’t had done that without their decision

Factor in the season ticket plan of 2 year deal (meaning needed to buy 2022 and 2023) and it’s clear what Bucs are doing

 

how can you not see it? Yeah I want to compete too but I think Bucs realize they need a franchise QB. 

2023 will suck but let’s face it 2022 wasn’t enjoyable either and we were actually trying 

 
Posted : Feb. 14, 2023 1:28 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

Give me rodgers, Jackson, Carr.

Pass on all 3 for very obvious reasons. 

Our window shut the minute Tom bounced. 

Time to take it on the chin, clear cap, be in position for a Top-3 pick, and make the whole situation as attractive as possible for the next head coach/regime. 

 
Posted : Feb. 14, 2023 1:31 pm
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The good news is there will be lots of tickets from which to choose if you want to go to a game this fall. 

 
Posted : Feb. 14, 2023 2:00 pm
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Upon further review, even though I would like the Bucs acquire Daniel Jones, I think for economic and marketing purposes, the Bucs will add Baker Mayfield! Also, Shea Tierney who is blocked at the Giants since Mike Kafka did not get the Cardinals HC job, has been with the Bills, Giants and with Alabama. IM, would ne a good choice as OC. Baker and Shea as OC would add some excitement to the Bucs offense!

 
Posted : Feb. 14, 2023 5:13 pm
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Posted by: @4halfabuc

Upon further review, even though I would like the Bucs acquire Daniel Jones, I think for economic and marketing purposes, the Bucs will add Baker Mayfield! Also, Shea Tierney who is blocked at the Giants since Mike Kafka did not get the Cardinals HC job, has been with the Bills, Giants and with Alabama. IM, would ne a good choice as OC. Baker and Shea as OC would add some excitement to the Bucs offense!

I think if Tierney were interested and the Bucs wanted him, we would've heard about a 2nd interview, as they've announced all the interviews via the website. We haven't heard a peep about Tierney since the 1st interview.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 14, 2023 5:33 pm
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Daniel jones is ass

 

Brady had a shit year and still his 25 passing touchdowns are a mark Daniel jones has not topped in his career

Let the giants resign him at 40 million a year and be a playoff pretender 

 
Posted : Feb. 14, 2023 7:17 pm
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