The penalties (third in the league) were disturbing and the trick plays (in the end) became embarrassing. Too many issues, even if Schiano did help clean up the organization from its thug days.
I really, really don't think that anyone is suggesting that Freeman was a good quarterback this season. It's just that the team never looked like a good, well-coached team with quarterback issues. It looked like a crappy, ill-prepared, undisciplined team with antiquated philosophies that couldn't adjust to its opponents. And had quarterback issues. At least, that's how it looked to me. Trying to pin all the team's woes on Freeman, regardless of how toxic he was, just seems short-sighted.
BOOM -Lighting and Thunder!!!!!!!!! No better way to put it.
I really, really don't think that anyone is suggesting that Freeman was a good quarterback this season. It's just that the team never looked like a good, well-coached team with quarterback issues. It looked like a crappy, ill-prepared, undisciplined team with antiquated philosophies that couldn't adjust to its opponents. And had quarterback issues. At least, that's how it looked to me. Trying to pin all the team's woes on Freeman, regardless of how toxic he was, just seems short-sighted.
Post of the year +1
Schiano's coaching ability at the NFL level or leadership was/is questionable. With the talent we have we left alot on the table but coaching held us back. There is a years worth of proof to support this. A rash decision is not an accurate portrayal of what took place.
Yes, because Josh F***ing Freeman was a future Hall of Famer. That clown single-handedly ruined this season, and cost Schiano his job.
He hasn't even been on the team for months. Will the excuses never end?
He was part of the team long enough to cost us 6 games, many which were handly winnable.
This is perhaps the saddest commentary on the Schiano regime. Not just Freeman, but how he handled people undermines every positive he brought to the table. The situation we watched unfold this year was his orchestration. He found a way to convince some of you that a guy who had the most to gain from winning, screwed the team. So much so, that even after he left, it remained his fault. He did not throw two pics at the end of the Cardinals game. (Pretty sure we win that with him under center.) He wasn't there for the bye week, nor the Philly game. And you think somehow his specter influenced the outcome of the Falcons game. You would have fit right in with the juries of the Salem Witch trials. No witches and no Josh Freeman at fault after his benching. The Glazers know that this whole season falls at the feet of Greg Schiano. Unlike some of you, they also know that with Freeman under center we win eight games or more. The way he handled the starting QB sent a message to the entire team. To wit: "I am king and I will crush any of you, just because I want to." If you don't believe that, go look at his record at Rutgers. As players, we know we're dog meat, but when a coach overtly handles you that way it kills the drive to be excellent. Shout out to the Glazers for doing the right thing, even though it's at least 14 weeks too late.
Schiano's coaching ability at the NFL level or leadership was/is questionable. With the talent we have we left alot on the table but coaching held us back. There is a years worth of proof to support this. A rash decision is not an accurate portrayal of what took place.
Yes, because Josh F***ing Freeman was a future Hall of Famer. That clown single-handedly ruined this season, and cost Schiano his job.
He hasn't even been on the team for months. Will the excuses never end?
He was part of the team long enough to cost us 6 games, many which were handly winnable.
This is perhaps the saddest commentary on the Schiano regime. Not just Freeman, but how he handled people undermines every positive he brought to the table. The situation we watched unfold this year was his orchestration. He found a way to convince some of you that a guy who had the most to gain from winning, screwed the team. So much so, that even after he left, it remained his fault. He did not throw two pics at the end of the Cardinals game. (Pretty sure we win that with him under center.) He wasn't there for the bye week, nor the Philly game. And you think somehow his specter influenced the outcome of the Falcons game. You would have fit right in with the juries of the Salem Witch trials. No witches and no Josh Freeman at fault after his benching. The Glazers know that this whole season falls at the feet of Greg Schiano. Unlike some of you, they also know that with Freeman under center we win eight games or more. The way he handled the starting QB sent a message to the entire team. To wit: "I am king and I will crush any of you, just because I want to." If you don't believe that, go look at his record at Rutgers. As players, we know we're dog meat, but when a coach overtly handles you that way it kills the drive to be excellent. Shout out to the Glazers for doing the right thing, even though it's at least 14 weeks too late.
Well which player are you? Hmmm....
LMAO at "me me me" generation nonsense. There was and is no time for a mistake like Greggles. You terminate the guy because he was so friggin stupid on so many levels...what pisses me off is the clown got to send some solid players packing and weakened the roster as a result of his dictatorial stylings. Screw Greggoe my Leggo. He suuuuuuuucks big time. As bad as Rah? Who cares. Suck is suck. Hopefully this upcoming hire is a good one, and done with some measure of haste. The pool will dry up fast.
Bunch of whippersnappers we are.
Sparky, I get your point about the draft, and I agree with you to a point. He did have two good drafts. But the more I thought about it, although one aspect of a good coach is being able to identify talent, sadly, Schiano lacked most every other aspect of being a good NFL coach. If the Bucs new coach is a good coach, then the good drafting should continue. But then the Bucs also have a guy that can run a team properly. Schiano's draft was my biggest reason to keep Schiano, but even that was not enough. Schiano just needed to go.
From Pat Yasinkas:
...and fans may have to be a little patient in the growing process. I'm guessing Tampa Bay fans won't mind because they'll have a coach and general manager who actually are following a plan.
...from 2009.
Drafts and talent isn't the problem.In game decisions, game planning and in game adjustments along with getting the most out of that talent is what doomed Schiano.
this right here.
From Pat Yasinkas:
...and fans may have to be a little patient in the growing process. I'm guessing Tampa Bay fans won't mind because they'll have a coach and general manager who actually are following a plan.
...from 2009.
not following you...what point are you trying to make?
Stop lying to yourselves. The talent level is most definitely a problem. No depth. Missing on an entire draft class. Ignoring positions in the off-season.But, you're looking for in-game adjustments with a bunch of rookies and street free agents...
From Pat Yasinkas:
...and fans may have to be a little patient in the growing process. I'm guessing Tampa Bay fans won't mind because they'll have a coach and general manager who actually are following a plan.
...from 2009.
not following you...what point are you trying to make?
It's a reboot of a reboot of a reboot.
Can we get Hardy and Bennett please?
From Pat Yasinkas:
...and fans may have to be a little patient in the growing process. I'm guessing Tampa Bay fans won't mind because they'll have a coach and general manager who actually are following a plan.
...from 2009.
not following you...what point are you trying to make?
It's a reboot of a reboot of a reboot.
so did you want a year 6 to Dom's plan to rebuild the franchise?
