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Some of our best players are a bit injured.  I hope they are taking care of their bodies first and foremost, and then listening to their trainers guidance.  I have great faith in Trask as well.  I think he just hasnt been given a real shot to show off his arm.  Who knows, that may come vs the Eagles if Baker's body isnt ready to go!  He's been sitting for 2 years learning and waiting patiently for his shot to shine....its always been like that for him.  Anyhoo, happy Humpday ma dudes.  Dueces 🍺 for now.

 
Posted : Jan. 10, 2024 2:47 pm
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Trask's situation is a bit unique because of being behind Brady, for sure.  Hope he gets his chance too and hope he shines.

 
Posted : Jan. 10, 2024 3:01 pm
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Hopefully the extra rest helps Baker.  I'd imagine he will be a go for Monday night but the hope is that he is effective as we need to put up at least 24 points to have a chance to beat the Eagles. 

wouldn't be fair to Trask to have him come in during a playoff game but if the score is 14-0 at half, may have to consider it depending on how the game is flowing.

 

that Carolina game was unacceptable so if Baker is performing like that, we shall see, but i'd imagine given how they'd avoid giving Trask a snap like the plague, they will roll with Baker even at 67% 

 
Posted : Jan. 10, 2024 3:15 pm
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Ha, always ending with a little red meat. 

sort of comes down to how you view Mayfields health.  If his play was heavily impacted by injury then not going with Trask says something, even if only in a small way. 

if he was/is really a go and just had a bad game then it tells us nothing about the Trask saga

 
Posted : Jan. 10, 2024 3:31 pm
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Posted by: @ramonb

Some of our best players are a bit injured.  I hope they are taking care of their bodies first and foremost, and then listening to their trainers guidance.  I have great faith in Trask as well.  I think he just hasnt been given a real shot to show off his arm.  Who knows, that may come vs the Eagles if Baker's body isnt ready to go!  He's been sitting for 2 years learning and waiting patiently for his shot to shine....its always been like that for him.  Anyhoo, happy Humpday ma dudes.  Dueces 🍺 for now.

If Trask was worth a damn, Baker would never have been signed.

 

 
Posted : Jan. 11, 2024 3:59 am
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Posted by: @ramonb

Some of our best players are a bit injured.  I hope they are taking care of their bodies first and foremost, and then listening to their trainers guidance.  I have great faith in Trask as well.  I think he just hasnt been given a real shot to show off his arm.  Who knows, that may come vs the Eagles if Baker's body isnt ready to go!  He's been sitting for 2 years learning and waiting patiently for his shot to shine....its always been like that for him.  Anyhoo, happy Humpday ma dudes.  Dueces 🍺 for now.

If Trask was worth a damn, Baker would never have been signed.

 

 

Plenty of signs the Bucs don't think he is part of the future, but as long as he is on the roster he is "hope" when Mayfield struggles.

 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 11, 2024 8:30 am
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Posted by: @ramonb

Some of our best players are a bit injured.  I hope they are taking care of their bodies first and foremost, and then listening to their trainers guidance.  I have great faith in Trask as well.  I think he just hasnt been given a real shot to show off his arm.  Who knows, that may come vs the Eagles if Baker's body isnt ready to go!  He's been sitting for 2 years learning and waiting patiently for his shot to shine....its always been like that for him.  Anyhoo, happy Humpday ma dudes.  Dueces 🍺 for now.

If Trask was worth a damn, Baker would never have been signed.

 

Licht was going to draft Mayfield #7 overall in 2018.

 

 
Posted : Jan. 11, 2024 9:19 am
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Posted by: @ramonb

Some of our best players are a bit injured.  I hope they are taking care of their bodies first and foremost, and then listening to their trainers guidance.  I have great faith in Trask as well.  I think he just hasnt been given a real shot to show off his arm.  Who knows, that may come vs the Eagles if Baker's body isnt ready to go!  He's been sitting for 2 years learning and waiting patiently for his shot to shine....its always been like that for him.  Anyhoo, happy Humpday ma dudes.  Dueces 🍺 for now.

If Trask was worth a damn, Baker would never have been signed.

 

Yes.  Obviously. Some posters on here believe that if he doesn't play in a regular season NFL game that coaches, front office, scouts aren't able to assess his ability.   The fact of the matter is he has shown so little in practice, his mechanics, etc the first 2 years that they didnt have confidence in giving him the starting gig like the Commanders did with Sam Howell.

heading into that draft, Davis Mills was the better QB prospect.  then i'd say Kyle Trask followed by Kellen Mond.  Neither of the three have amounted to anything with 2 out of the three likely to be out of the league in another 2 years.  Davis Mills had some playing time and played half decent, albeit not good enough to be their guy, and could maybe have a Mike Glennon/Blain Gabbert/Chad Henne type back-up role where he could see some time due to injury.

Entering this off-season the job was there for the taking and Trask got the most off-season reps imaginable.  However, they brought in competition.  And man, they brought in a former #1 overall pick that was just superior.  If they would have brought in Jacoby Bisset, Case Keenum, or a Trevor Siemian, Trask may have won the starting gig or at the very least would have been starting by week 8 like many of us projected with a Baker Mayfield flop.  It just didn't happen.

I understand why fans on this board want Trask to be the answer.  Who doesn't want their Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow?  We all do. It's just not realistic.  If Trask played this year, Bucs went 9-8, and he had Baker Mayfield's numbers, those same fans that Critique Baker, would be applauding Trask.

Let's upgrade from Baker.  I'm all for it.  But give a realistic option and quite frankly, given out draft status, the only 2 possible alternatives for 2024 are Kirk Cousins and Russell Wilson.  Highly unlikely we are in the mix for either of them with Minnesota, Denver, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh likely in the market for their services.  I'd probably suggest Cousins goes back to Minny with Russell to Atlanta but don't rule out Denver (Cousins) and Pittsburgh (Wilson) getting in the mix.

 

 

 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 11, 2024 9:32 am
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Posted by: @ramonb

Some of our best players are a bit injured.  I hope they are taking care of their bodies first and foremost, and then listening to their trainers guidance.  I have great faith in Trask as well.  I think he just hasnt been given a real shot to show off his arm.  Who knows, that may come vs the Eagles if Baker's body isnt ready to go!  He's been sitting for 2 years learning and waiting patiently for his shot to shine....its always been like that for him.  Anyhoo, happy Humpday ma dudes.  Dueces 🍺 for now.

If Trask was worth a damn, Baker would never have been signed.

 

Yes.  Obviously. Some posters on here believe that if he doesn't play in a regular season NFL game that coaches, front office, scouts aren't able to assess his ability.   The fact of the matter is he has shown so little in practice, his mechanics, etc the first 2 years that they didnt have confidence in giving him the starting gig like the Commanders did with Sam Howell.

heading into that draft, Davis Mills was the better QB prospect.  then i'd say Kyle Trask followed by Kellen Mond.  Neither of the three have amounted to anything with 2 out of the three likely to be out of the league in another 2 years.  Davis Mills had some playing time and played half decent, albeit not good enough to be their guy, and could maybe have a Mike Glennon/Blain Gabbert/Chad Henne type back-up role where he could see some time due to injury.

Entering this off-season the job was there for the taking and Trask got the most off-season reps imaginable.  However, they brought in competition.  And man, they brought in a former #1 overall pick that was just superior.  If they would have brought in Jacoby Bisset, Case Keenum, or a Trevor Siemian, Trask may have won the starting gig or at the very least would have been starting by week 8 like many of us projected with a Baker Mayfield flop.  It just didn't happen.

I understand why fans on this board want Trask to be the answer.  Who doesn't want their Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow?  We all do. It's just not realistic.  If Trask played this year, Bucs went 9-8, and he had Baker Mayfield's numbers, those same fans that Critique Baker, would be applauding Trask.

Let's upgrade from Baker.  I'm all for it.  But give a realistic option and quite frankly, given out draft status, the only 2 possible alternatives for 2024 are Kirk Cousins and Russell Wilson.  Highly unlikely we are in the mix for either of them with Minnesota, Denver, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh likely in the market for their services.  I'd probably suggest Cousins goes back to Minny with Russell to Atlanta but don't rule out Denver (Cousins) and Pittsburgh (Wilson) getting in the mix.

 

 

 

 

 

I lol'd when you talked about mechanics because when Mayfield's first read isn't open he has the worst mechanics I've ever seen. That's why the passes are all over the place. 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 11, 2024 9:56 am
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Posted by: @ramonb

Some of our best players are a bit injured.  I hope they are taking care of their bodies first and foremost, and then listening to their trainers guidance.  I have great faith in Trask as well.  I think he just hasnt been given a real shot to show off his arm.  Who knows, that may come vs the Eagles if Baker's body isnt ready to go!  He's been sitting for 2 years learning and waiting patiently for his shot to shine....its always been like that for him.  Anyhoo, happy Humpday ma dudes.  Dueces 🍺 for now.

If Trask was worth a damn, Baker would never have been signed.

 

Yes.  Obviously. Some posters on here believe that if he doesn't play in a regular season NFL game that coaches, front office, scouts aren't able to assess his ability.   The fact of the matter is he has shown so little in practice, his mechanics, etc the first 2 years that they didnt have confidence in giving him the starting gig like the Commanders did with Sam Howell.

heading into that draft, Davis Mills was the better QB prospect.  then i'd say Kyle Trask followed by Kellen Mond.  Neither of the three have amounted to anything with 2 out of the three likely to be out of the league in another 2 years.  Davis Mills had some playing time and played half decent, albeit not good enough to be their guy, and could maybe have a Mike Glennon/Blain Gabbert/Chad Henne type back-up role where he could see some time due to injury.

Entering this off-season the job was there for the taking and Trask got the most off-season reps imaginable.  However, they brought in competition.  And man, they brought in a former #1 overall pick that was just superior.  If they would have brought in Jacoby Bisset, Case Keenum, or a Trevor Siemian, Trask may have won the starting gig or at the very least would have been starting by week 8 like many of us projected with a Baker Mayfield flop.  It just didn't happen.

I understand why fans on this board want Trask to be the answer.  Who doesn't want their Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow?  We all do. It's just not realistic.  If Trask played this year, Bucs went 9-8, and he had Baker Mayfield's numbers, those same fans that Critique Baker, would be applauding Trask.

Let's upgrade from Baker.  I'm all for it.  But give a realistic option and quite frankly, given out draft status, the only 2 possible alternatives for 2024 are Kirk Cousins and Russell Wilson.  Highly unlikely we are in the mix for either of them with Minnesota, Denver, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh likely in the market for their services.  I'd probably suggest Cousins goes back to Minny with Russell to Atlanta but don't rule out Denver (Cousins) and Pittsburgh (Wilson) getting in the mix.

 

 

 

 

 

I lol'd when you talked about mechanics because when Mayfield's first read isn't open he has the worst mechanics I've ever seen. That's why the passes are all over the place. 

 

 

and who do you want to be Bucs QB in 2024 which gives them a chance to be a playoff team?

 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 11, 2024 9:58 am
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If Trask played this year, Bucs went 9-8, and he had Baker Mayfield's numbers, those same fans that Critique Baker, would be applauding Trask

Well, one of them is a #1 overall pick, who's on his 4th team in 6 years.

The other is a 2nd round pick who's never played a meaningful down. 

So, yeah, the expectations would be different. 

Imagine that. 

 
Posted : Jan. 11, 2024 10:59 am
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Posted by: @ramonb

Some of our best players are a bit injured.  I hope they are taking care of their bodies first and foremost, and then listening to their trainers guidance.  I have great faith in Trask as well.  I think he just hasnt been given a real shot to show off his arm.  Who knows, that may come vs the Eagles if Baker's body isnt ready to go!  He's been sitting for 2 years learning and waiting patiently for his shot to shine....its always been like that for him.  Anyhoo, happy Humpday ma dudes.  Dueces 🍺 for now.

If Trask was worth a damn, Baker would never have been signed.

 

Yes.  Obviously. Some posters on here believe that if he doesn't play in a regular season NFL game that coaches, front office, scouts aren't able to assess his ability.   The fact of the matter is he has shown so little in practice, his mechanics, etc the first 2 years that they didnt have confidence in giving him the starting gig like the Commanders did with Sam Howell.

heading into that draft, Davis Mills was the better QB prospect.  then i'd say Kyle Trask followed by Kellen Mond.  Neither of the three have amounted to anything with 2 out of the three likely to be out of the league in another 2 years.  Davis Mills had some playing time and played half decent, albeit not good enough to be their guy, and could maybe have a Mike Glennon/Blain Gabbert/Chad Henne type back-up role where he could see some time due to injury.

Entering this off-season the job was there for the taking and Trask got the most off-season reps imaginable.  However, they brought in competition.  And man, they brought in a former #1 overall pick that was just superior.  If they would have brought in Jacoby Bisset, Case Keenum, or a Trevor Siemian, Trask may have won the starting gig or at the very least would have been starting by week 8 like many of us projected with a Baker Mayfield flop.  It just didn't happen.

I understand why fans on this board want Trask to be the answer.  Who doesn't want their Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow?  We all do. It's just not realistic.  If Trask played this year, Bucs went 9-8, and he had Baker Mayfield's numbers, those same fans that Critique Baker, would be applauding Trask.

Let's upgrade from Baker.  I'm all for it.  But give a realistic option and quite frankly, given out draft status, the only 2 possible alternatives for 2024 are Kirk Cousins and Russell Wilson.  Highly unlikely we are in the mix for either of them with Minnesota, Denver, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh likely in the market for their services.  I'd probably suggest Cousins goes back to Minny with Russell to Atlanta but don't rule out Denver (Cousins) and Pittsburgh (Wilson) getting in the mix.

 

 

 

 

 

I lol'd when you talked about mechanics because when Mayfield's first read isn't open he has the worst mechanics I've ever seen. That's why the passes are all over the place. 

 

 

and who do you want to be Bucs QB in 2024 which gives them a chance to be a playoff team?

 

 

Trask should have stayed in the game vs Indy. 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 11, 2024 12:10 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @abuccsfan

Posted by: @ramonb

Some of our best players are a bit injured.  I hope they are taking care of their bodies first and foremost, and then listening to their trainers guidance.  I have great faith in Trask as well.  I think he just hasnt been given a real shot to show off his arm.  Who knows, that may come vs the Eagles if Baker's body isnt ready to go!  He's been sitting for 2 years learning and waiting patiently for his shot to shine....its always been like that for him.  Anyhoo, happy Humpday ma dudes.  Dueces 🍺 for now.

If Trask was worth a damn, Baker would never have been signed.

 

Yes.  Obviously. Some posters on here believe that if he doesn't play in a regular season NFL game that coaches, front office, scouts aren't able to assess his ability.   The fact of the matter is he has shown so little in practice, his mechanics, etc the first 2 years that they didnt have confidence in giving him the starting gig like the Commanders did with Sam Howell.

heading into that draft, Davis Mills was the better QB prospect.  then i'd say Kyle Trask followed by Kellen Mond.  Neither of the three have amounted to anything with 2 out of the three likely to be out of the league in another 2 years.  Davis Mills had some playing time and played half decent, albeit not good enough to be their guy, and could maybe have a Mike Glennon/Blain Gabbert/Chad Henne type back-up role where he could see some time due to injury.

Entering this off-season the job was there for the taking and Trask got the most off-season reps imaginable.  However, they brought in competition.  And man, they brought in a former #1 overall pick that was just superior.  If they would have brought in Jacoby Bisset, Case Keenum, or a Trevor Siemian, Trask may have won the starting gig or at the very least would have been starting by week 8 like many of us projected with a Baker Mayfield flop.  It just didn't happen.

I understand why fans on this board want Trask to be the answer.  Who doesn't want their Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow?  We all do. It's just not realistic.  If Trask played this year, Bucs went 9-8, and he had Baker Mayfield's numbers, those same fans that Critique Baker, would be applauding Trask.

Let's upgrade from Baker.  I'm all for it.  But give a realistic option and quite frankly, given out draft status, the only 2 possible alternatives for 2024 are Kirk Cousins and Russell Wilson.  Highly unlikely we are in the mix for either of them with Minnesota, Denver, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh likely in the market for their services.  I'd probably suggest Cousins goes back to Minny with Russell to Atlanta but don't rule out Denver (Cousins) and Pittsburgh (Wilson) getting in the mix.

 

 

 

 

 

I lol'd when you talked about mechanics because when Mayfield's first read isn't open he has the worst mechanics I've ever seen. That's why the passes are all over the place. 

 

 

and who do you want to be Bucs QB in 2024 which gives them a chance to be a playoff team?

 

 

Trask should have stayed in the game vs Indy. 

 

LOL

 

 
Posted : Jan. 11, 2024 12:51 pm
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If Trask played this year, Bucs went 9-8, and he had Baker Mayfield's numbers, those same fans that Critique Baker, would be applauding Trask

Well, one of them is a #1 overall pick, who's on his 4th team in 6 years.

The other is a 2nd round pick who's never played a meaningful down. 

So, yeah, the expectations would be different. 

Imagine that. 

 

and imagination is all we will be able to utilize as it comes to Kyle Trask 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 11, 2024 12:51 pm
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we are blessed injurywise compared to Philly!

 
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