I do not want him to re-do his deal. I want him disposable as possible. All I was saying is why HE wants to do a redo not the team who shouldn't.
I do not want him to re-do his deal. I want him disposable as possible. All I was saying is why HE wants to do a redo not the team who shouldn't.
Im with you now. I dont think redoing his deal and keeping his annual salary the same helps the team at all. Both sides need something from it and I dont see a way that restructuring him would be mutually beneficial.
Two firsts, two seconds, a third, and a fourth or we shouldn't even entertain the idea.
I'd take a 2014 1st and a 2015 1st if someone really offered. He is a great player, but he isn't that important. We could use that cap room to sign a lesser CB like Shields and still have enough left to sign a great DE too. Then use that extra 1st this year to draft Gilbert. So is Revis really better than Gilbert, Shields, a top DE, and an extra top 50 pick in 2015? Maybe, maybe not....but I don't think it is as simple as many of you try to make it.
I'd take a 2014 1st and a 2015 1st if someone really offered. He is a great player, but he isn't that important. We could use that cap room to sign a lesser CB like Shields and still have enough left to sign a great DE too. Then use that extra 1st this year to draft Gilbert. So is Revis really better than Gilbert, Shields, a top DE, and an extra top 50 pick in 2015? Maybe, maybe not....but I don't think it is as simple as many of you try to make it.
Honestly, I would take that too. Just dont see anyone offering that.
Yeah, if someone wanted to cough up two first round picks for him, I'd pretty much be fine with that. That's not to say that I think the team should be actively shopping him, but I don't see much of a reason for there to be any sacred cows on this team beyond David and McCoy.
Mason Foster disagrees with you. Be careful.
I for one was not really in favor of the trade to get Revis to begin with, I felt and still feel we were more than one great CB away from being a playoff team. Now that we have him I like having a great CB to help our younger players learn from and take the pressure off them, and from what I saw and read he was a good team player not the money hungry cry baby the New York media made him out to be, at least not yet. BUT if some team is willing to make a trade offer to the Bucs that will make us a better team now and into the future you have to entertain the offer. If you don't you are doomed to remain an average team with the odd good player.
Especially when there is plenty of fat to be trimmed elsewhere....guys who get paid a lot and dont actually contibute ,like Davin and Nicks. Why would you start with a probowler like Revis ?
Because he has trade value. Here's a news flash for you guys: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers suck. We need players, lots of them. Trading an expensive 29 year old corner is EXACTLY where you start the rebuilding.
Yeah, if someone wanted to cough up two first round picks for him, I'd pretty much be fine with that. That's not to say that I think the team should be actively shopping him, but I don't see much of a reason for there to be any sacred cows on this team beyond David and McCoy.
Agree with this^^^
I think Lovie would love to have Revis and would change his defensive scheme up to fit revis and make the most of having Revis...but the truth is we could probably run the same defense Lovie ran in Chicago with much lesser CBs and still be just as good. He simply doesn't need the #1 cover corner in the league for his defense to be top 10 every year. He's proven that. So you have to factor that in. It's not as simple as saying Revis is great and you should never trade a great player.
Two firsts, two seconds, a third, and a fourth or we shouldn't even entertain the idea.
HAHAHA!! Really you think Revis is worth that?? He is a man to man corner!! NEWS FLASH...Lovie doesn't need a Revis in his defense, PLUS if we can get more draft picks in this loaded draft DO IT
Especially when there is plenty of fat to be trimmed elsewhere....guys who get paid a lot and dont actually contibute ,like Davin and Nicks. Why would you start with a probowler like Revis ?
Because he has trade value. Here's a news flash for you guys: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers suck. We need players, lots of them. Trading an expensive 29 year old corner is EXACTLY where you start the rebuilding.
Very few are saying they wouldnt listen to offers. The reality of being offered something that reflects his value is minimal.
Especially when there is plenty of fat to be trimmed elsewhere....guys who get paid a lot and dont actually contibute ,like Davin and Nicks. Why would you start with a probowler like Revis ?
Because he has trade value. Here's a news flash for you guys: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers suck. We need players, lots of them. Trading an expensive 29 year old corner is EXACTLY where you start the rebuilding.
Yea trade away the only thing selling tickets right now. If they offered enough you can replace that with some draft blood but it's not happening. Do people even think about the intangibles a player brings to the table?
Use his $16M cap space to sign Sam Shields and Brian Orakpo, then draft Justin Gilbert with the extra 1st we get. Nobody would be missing Revis.....and we'd still have an extra top 50 pick in 2015 ta boot. It could make us better overall.