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Posted by: @white-tiger

Dallas would have destroyed Bucky AND Tucker in the 3rd & 4th quarter.

Bucky’s pass blocking grade for the game (per PFF) was an 8.2

On the season, it’s a 29.6

Not taking a dig at him, but there’s a reason why Coen has him in there in those situations. 

Definitely something Bucky needs to work on this offseason. 

 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2024 10:23 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

Dallas would have destroyed Bucky AND Tucker in the 3rd & 4th quarter.

Bucky’s pass blocking grade for the game (per PFF) was an 8.2

On the season, it’s a 29.6

Not taking a dig at him, but there’s a reason why Coen has him in there in those situations. 

Definitely something Bucky needs to work on this offseason. 

It makes sense to some extent but also he abandoned the run instead of going run with tempo and/or having both RBs out there.

 

 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2024 10:49 pm
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White- 545 Snaps, 188 touches, 972 yards, 9 TDs, 4.2 ypc

Irving/Tucker- 518 snaps, 257 touches, 1,597 yards, 10 TDs, 5.6 ypc

How is this even a discussion? White needs to be phased out the rest of the season. Let these two backs take us on a run behind this OL. Not let Baker and White piss the season away. 

 

Now do White/Bucky vs Tucker.

I'm cracking up with you putting Tucker on Bucky's shoulders for stats.

 

My whole argument is that White is the distant third back. We have evidence of what the offense looks like without White: Irving and Tucker combined for 300 yards 

 

Oh yeah well me and Bucky... Our stats are better than White so get me in coach. 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2024 10:50 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

We have evidence of what the offense looks like without White: Irving and Tucker combined for 300 yards 

 

the newest version of the "involved" stat

 

 
Posted : Dec. 24, 2024 8:37 am
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Posted by: @white-tiger

Dallas would have destroyed Bucky AND Tucker in the 3rd & 4th quarter.

Bucky’s pass blocking grade for the game (per PFF) was an 8.2

On the season, it’s a 29.6

Not taking a dig at him, but there’s a reason why Coen has him in there in those situations. 

Definitely something Bucky needs to work on this offseason. 

It makes sense to some extent but also he abandoned the run instead of going run with tempo and/or having both RBs out there.

 

Oh, I'm not absolving Liam of abandoning the run. 

Just simply pointing out the obvious reason as to why they had White in (and have had him in regarding those situations). 

Those numbers are God-awful and something he needs to prioritize in the spring. If he can even be average at pass blocking, he's perennial AP1 material. 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 24, 2024 9:09 am
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We have evidence of what the offense looks like without White: Irving and Tucker combined for 300 yards 

 

the newest version of the "involved" stat

 

Tucker having 192 yards and 2 TDs in the game White missed is highly relevant. Can't believe so many people are defending a completely ineffective back. 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 24, 2024 12:28 pm
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We have evidence of what the offense looks like without White: Irving and Tucker combined for 300 yards 

 

the newest version of the "involved" stat

 

Tucker having 192 yards and 2 TDs in the game White missed is highly relevant. Can't believe so many people are defending a completely ineffective back. 

 

During the preseason I questioned whether White would stay in the lead role. It’s the self described football smart set who claimed White would be the top back. They’ve even turned on you. lol

Understanding why Tucker is currently the 3rd back is not defending White.

 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 24, 2024 12:44 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

Dallas would have destroyed Bucky AND Tucker in the 3rd & 4th quarter.

Bucky’s pass blocking grade for the game (per PFF) was an 8.2

On the season, it’s a 29.6

Not taking a dig at him, but there’s a reason why Coen has him in there in those situations. 

Definitely something Bucky needs to work on this offseason. 

It makes sense to some extent but also he abandoned the run instead of going run with tempo and/or having both RBs out there.

 

Oh, I'm not absolving Liam of abandoning the run. 

Just simply pointing out the obvious reason as to why they had White in (and have had him in regarding those situations). 

Those numbers are God-awful and something he needs to prioritize in the spring. If he can even be average at pass blocking, he's perennial AP1 material. 

 

Yeah agreed but at his size I think it'll be tough. I don't want him adding a ton of weight and losing his quickness. 

I just wanna see them both out there

 

 
Posted : Dec. 24, 2024 12:56 pm
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We have evidence of what the offense looks like without White: Irving and Tucker combined for 300 yards 

 

the newest version of the "involved" stat

 

Tucker having 192 yards and 2 TDs in the game White missed is highly relevant. Can't believe so many people are defending a completely ineffective back. 

 

Because you're cherry picking one game, and forgetting that Tucker shit the bed vs the giants.

You're also cherry picking context.

Your argument is flawed. 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 24, 2024 12:58 pm
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Dallas would have destroyed Bucky AND Tucker in the 3rd & 4th quarter.

Bucky’s pass blocking grade for the game (per PFF) was an 8.2

On the season, it’s a 29.6

Not taking a dig at him, but there’s a reason why Coen has him in there in those situations. 

Definitely something Bucky needs to work on this offseason. 

It makes sense to some extent but also he abandoned the run instead of going run with tempo and/or having both RBs out there.

 

Oh, I'm not absolving Liam of abandoning the run. 

Just simply pointing out the obvious reason as to why they had White in (and have had him in regarding those situations). 

Those numbers are God-awful and something he needs to prioritize in the spring. If he can even be average at pass blocking, he's perennial AP1 material. 

 

Yeah agreed but at his size I think it'll be tough. I don't want him adding a ton of weight and losing his quickness. 

I just wanna see them both out there

 

I think it’s more technique and recognition than anything else. 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 24, 2024 1:00 pm
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Dallas would have destroyed Bucky AND Tucker in the 3rd & 4th quarter.

Bucky’s pass blocking grade for the game (per PFF) was an 8.2

On the season, it’s a 29.6

Not taking a dig at him, but there’s a reason why Coen has him in there in those situations. 

Definitely something Bucky needs to work on this offseason. 

It makes sense to some extent but also he abandoned the run instead of going run with tempo and/or having both RBs out there.

 

Oh, I'm not absolving Liam of abandoning the run. 

Just simply pointing out the obvious reason as to why they had White in (and have had him in regarding those situations). 

Those numbers are God-awful and something he needs to prioritize in the spring. If he can even be average at pass blocking, he's perennial AP1 material. 

 

Yeah agreed but at his size I think it'll be tough. I don't want him adding a ton of weight and losing his quickness. 

I just wanna see them both out there

 

I think it’s more technique and recognition than anything else. 

 

At Oregon he didn't pass block a ton so maybe. I have looked deep into it 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 24, 2024 4:36 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

Dallas would have destroyed Bucky AND Tucker in the 3rd & 4th quarter.

Bucky’s pass blocking grade for the game (per PFF) was an 8.2

On the season, it’s a 29.6

Not taking a dig at him, but there’s a reason why Coen has him in there in those situations. 

Definitely something Bucky needs to work on this offseason. 

It makes sense to some extent but also he abandoned the run instead of going run with tempo and/or having both RBs out there.

 

Oh, I'm not absolving Liam of abandoning the run. 

Just simply pointing out the obvious reason as to why they had White in (and have had him in regarding those situations). 

Those numbers are God-awful and something he needs to prioritize in the spring. If he can even be average at pass blocking, he's perennial AP1 material. 

 

Yeah agreed but at his size I think it'll be tough. I don't want him adding a ton of weight and losing his quickness. 

I just wanna see them both out there

 

I think it’s more technique and recognition than anything else. 

 

At Oregon he didn't pass block a ton so maybe. I have looked deep into it 

 

Warrick Dunn was pretty good in pass protection/blitz pick-up. He was built pretty similar to Bucky, so it’s not out of the question that he could develop it…sure would give us another option on the field.

 

 
Posted : Dec. 24, 2024 10:16 pm
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We have evidence of what the offense looks like without White: Irving and Tucker combined for 300 yards 

 

the newest version of the "involved" stat

 

Tucker having 192 yards and 2 TDs in the game White missed is highly relevant. Can't believe so many people are defending a completely ineffective back. 

 

Because you're cherry picking one game, and forgetting that Tucker shit the bed vs the giants.

You're also cherry picking context.

Your argument is flawed. 

 

 

It's the only game White missed and Tucker was consistently part of the game. One of hell of a coincidence that the game White misses we run for 277 yards. What are the odds, right? Not like he hasnt been running like shit for 3 years. 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 25, 2024 12:32 pm
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One of hell of a coincidence that the game White misses we run for 277 yards. What are the odds, right?

We probably run for similar yards and I have been critical of White

White was in at the end of the last game because he is the back in the 2 minute offense. He is the back in the 2 minute offense because he can do all 3 things- catch, run and protect. 

Tucker was not in the last game at the end because he is currently a 4 minute offense back, a good runner but inferior to both other RBs in the other two phases.  

Not complicated. No conspiracy. 

 
Posted : Dec. 25, 2024 4:14 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

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We have evidence of what the offense looks like without White: Irving and Tucker combined for 300 yards 

 

the newest version of the "involved" stat

 

Tucker having 192 yards and 2 TDs in the game White missed is highly relevant. Can't believe so many people are defending a completely ineffective back. 

 

Because you're cherry picking one game, and forgetting that Tucker shit the bed vs the giants.

You're also cherry picking context.

Your argument is flawed. 

 

 

It's the only game White missed and Tucker was consistently part of the game. One of hell of a coincidence that the game White misses we run for 277 yards. What are the odds, right? Not like he hasnt been running like shit for 3 years. 

 

Coincidence OR saints are god awful vs the run 

 

 
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