I'm Janet Renophobic, but I shower with her anyway 'cause I don't want to violate her basic human rights.
I'm Janet Renophobic, but I shower with her anyway 'cause I don't want to violate her basic human rights.
LMAO!
So your reason that I shouldn't be uncomfortable showering with a man who could be sexually attracted to me , while a women should be uncomfortable for the very same reason, is that most rapists are men ....Lol...my god you are stupid. If that's the best you could come up with you'd have been better off continuing to pretend the question was beneath you , you sad little moron.
I'm a moron because I can't read your mind? I have no idea why someone else finding you attractive makes you uncomfortable. I have had gay guys hit on me, and I found it flattering. The only reasoning I could come up with is modesty. The other reason would be fear that you might realize it turns you on which is something personal you have to deal with.
Couldn't agree more....or maybe afraid the guy may strong-arm his manhood.
He has a bit of a point. Otherwise why don't we have coed showers and locker rooms?
Sexual assault.Although I don't feel comfortable showering with anyone who is not my girlfriend.
Sexual Assault never happens in all men's showers though....that phrase" don't drop the soap" refers to nothing. Great Argument.Fact is Micheal Sam is 6'2 and 260 pounds of solid muscle. I'm willing to bet he could rape everyone on this board if he really wanted to , lol.
So communal showers in general are a bad idea?
If Scarlett Johansson walks into the shower and starts washing her boobies and butt, you are going to get a hard on. You won't be able to stop it or hide it.
Are you that stupid? What about the gay guys that are already in the lockerroom? And FYI.....there are more Rosanne Barrs than Scarlett Johanssons.
I agree with Lord Revis. I'm uncomfortable showering with anyone that's not his girlfriend.
Dude you're like 60. Gross.
What if you don't want to shower with gay, straight, bi or ANY kind of man? Are you homophobic or what?
I would personally tab that as normal, but I don't understand the culture of the NFL locker room.
Idk why they don't just use a hose and run it over their heads. That's what we do after pick up football games x)
I apologize gentlemen. What was this thread about? You two were simply expressing your homophobia in general? My bad. As long as you agree that your (or anyone else's) homophobia should not negatively impact Michael Sam's ability to pursue a career in the National Football League we're all good. In that case your opinion is harmlessly distasteful.
"I think that he would not be accepted as much as we think he would be accepted," Vilma added. "I don't want people to just naturally assume, like, 'Oh, we're all homophobic.' That's really not the case. Imagine if he's the guy next to me and, you know, I get dressed, naked, taking a shower, the whole nine, and it just so happens he looks at me. How am I supposed to respond?"that's what this thread is about. We're saying that if we were Vilma in that hypothetical, it would make us uncomfortable. You're saying that makes us homophobic. It's really a pretty simple thread to follow.
Dude, it absolutely does make you homophobic. By the very definition of the word. Homophobia in a vacuum is much less of a problem for me when it is not directly negatively impacting the freedom of a homosexual. Hell, I would very likely be uncomfortable showering nude with a gay man. I have some level of homophobia still, unquestionably. What I do not believe is acceptable is taking my opinion or feeling and degrade someone else tangibly (not name calling) because of it.
I would feel very uncomfortable showering with my family too, does that make me a family-phobic? Homophobia isn't that general of a term but many try to seem like it is.
You quoted a man who showers frequently with large groups of men. Someone who express no misgivings about such conditions. So in this example you are taking on the persona of someone perfectly comfortable showering nude around other nude men. There is one particular group of men that in this example is singled out as making that showering situation uncomfortable. That group is not family members. Or strangers. Or whatever other group that pops into your head that has no relevance to the current hypothetical you set up.
...and you realize that my not feeling comfortable showering with gays doesn't effect gay's rights in any way whatsoever correct. I'm not telling you don't have the right to shower , I'm telling you I don't want to do it with you.
You (among others) are using it as an asinine rational not to draft Michael Sam. Do I need to further clarify the idiocy of your statement?
LOL , No I'm not you idiot . I'd love to draft Micheal Sam in round 4. Only reason I wouldn't want him sooner is because he's a OLB / DE tweener , not because he's gay. I simply don't want the guy anywhere near me in the shower . If a gay guy can't respect the personal boundries of his Hetero teammates , or understand why that might make a hetero man uncomfortable , then he is the one who needs to check himself. Judging by how his old teammates like him , I'm guessing he does respect boundries.
But do you want straight men near you in the shower?
I prefer to shower alone , but no , a shower with straight men doesn't bother me nearly as much because I know they have as little interest in my naked body as I have in there's. No fear of sexual thoughts.Is all of this really so hard for you to understand , Beavis ???
Do you want straight men near you in your shower? Is that something you'd pursue? Not a difficult question, Butthead.
I apologize gentlemen. What was this thread about? You two were simply expressing your homophobia in general? My bad. As long as you agree that your (or anyone else's) homophobia should not negatively impact Michael Sam's ability to pursue a career in the National Football League we're all good. In that case your opinion is harmlessly distasteful.
"I think that he would not be accepted as much as we think he would be accepted," Vilma added. "I don't want people to just naturally assume, like, 'Oh, we're all homophobic.' That's really not the case. Imagine if he's the guy next to me and, you know, I get dressed, naked, taking a shower, the whole nine, and it just so happens he looks at me. How am I supposed to respond?"that's what this thread is about. We're saying that if we were Vilma in that hypothetical, it would make us uncomfortable. You're saying that makes us homophobic. It's really a pretty simple thread to follow.
Dude, it absolutely does make you homophobic. By the very definition of the word. Homophobia in a vacuum is much less of a problem for me when it is not directly negatively impacting the freedom of a homosexual. Hell, I would very likely be uncomfortable showering nude with a gay man. I have some level of homophobia still, unquestionably. What I do not believe is acceptable is taking my opinion or feeling and degrade someone else tangibly (not name calling) because of it.
I would feel very uncomfortable showering with my family too, does that make me a family-phobic? Homophobia isn't that general of a term but many try to seem like it is.
You quoted a man who showers frequently with large groups of men. Someone who express no misgivings about such conditions. So in this example you are taking on the persona of someone perfectly comfortable showering nude around other nude men. There is one particular group of men that in this example is singled out as making that showering situation uncomfortable. That group is not family members. Or strangers. Or whatever other group that pops into your head that has no relevance to the current hypothetical you set up.
Homophobic literally means that homosexuals scare the living sh!t out of you to the point where it would give you anxiety to be near them. Vilma is just being irrational.
It's irrational not to want to shower with gay men.
...and you realize that my not feeling comfortable showering with gays doesn't effect gay's rights in any way whatsoever correct. I'm not telling you don't have the right to shower , I'm telling you I don't want to do it with you.
You (among others) are using it as an asinine rational not to draft Michael Sam. Do I need to further clarify the idiocy of your statement?
LOL , No I'm not you idiot . I'd love to draft Micheal Sam in round 4. Only reason I wouldn't want him sooner is because he's a OLB / DE tweener , not because he's gay. I simply don't want the guy anywhere near me in the shower . If a gay guy can't respect the personal boundries of his Hetero teammates , or understand why that might make a hetero man uncomfortable , then he is the one who needs to check himself. Judging by how his old teammates like him , I'm guessing he does respect boundries.
But do you want straight men near you in the shower?
I prefer to shower alone , but no , a shower with straight men doesn't bother me nearly as much because I know they have as little interest in my naked body as I have in there's. No fear of sexual thoughts.Is all of this really so hard for you to understand , Beavis ???
Do you want straight men near you in your shower? Is that something you'd pursue? Not a difficult question, Butthead.
Not difficult at all , which is probably why I already answered it . Anything else , Lord Beavis ?
...and you realize that my not feeling comfortable showering with gays doesn't effect gay's rights in any way whatsoever correct. I'm not telling you don't have the right to shower , I'm telling you I don't want to do it with you.
You (among others) are using it as an asinine rational not to draft Michael Sam. Do I need to further clarify the idiocy of your statement?
LOL , No I'm not you idiot . I'd love to draft Micheal Sam in round 4. Only reason I wouldn't want him sooner is because he's a OLB / DE tweener , not because he's gay. I simply don't want the guy anywhere near me in the shower . If a gay guy can't respect the personal boundries of his Hetero teammates , or understand why that might make a hetero man uncomfortable , then he is the one who needs to check himself. Judging by how his old teammates like him , I'm guessing he does respect boundries.
But do you want straight men near you in the shower?
I prefer to shower alone , but no , a shower with straight men doesn't bother me nearly as much because I know they have as little interest in my naked body as I have in there's. No fear of sexual thoughts.Is all of this really so hard for you to understand , Beavis ???
Do you want straight men near you in your shower? Is that something you'd pursue? Not a difficult question, Butthead.
Not difficult at all , which is probably why I already answered it . Anything else , Lord Beavis ?
I only accept yes or no answers. And get your glasses checked. It says "Lord Revis". Like the defensive back, Revis?
It's irrational not to want to shower with gay men.
Well that marks the 1st time Lord Beavis has ever been rational about anything.
I only accept yes or no answers.
Is that the line you use in the communal shower , Lord Beavis ??
