Schiano......"We’re a couple pieces away from being a dominant defense"

michael89156 · 2013-12-20T07:07:31Z

Greg Schiano: Defense can be dominant December, 19, 2013 By Pat Yasinskas | ESPN.com TAMPA, Fla. -- By his conservative standards, coach Greg Schiano said something that would seem to border on the outrageous Thursday. “We’re a couple pieces away from being a dominant defense,’’ Schiano said. Go ahead and throw out the reminders that the Bucs are 4-12. And let’s note that the defense is ranked 13th overall (15th against the run and 15th against the pass). Nobody is going to confuse the Bucs with the 1985 Chicago Bears or the great Tampa Bay defenses of the late 1990s and early 2000s. But I think Schiano has a point. “We have some good players, some really good players,’’ Schiano said. “We’ll just keep working at it. I think some of those pieces are going to develop into being dominant players. We have some young kids here who I think have the upside to be special. Our whole philosophy is draft and develop, anyway, and that’s what we’ve got to do.’’ Look at Tampa Bay’s defense and you see a lot of good parts already in place, including some young ones that only should get better. Guys like cornerback Darrelle Revis and safety Dashon Goldson already are considered among the best in the league at their positions. Fourth-year defensive tackle Gerald McCoy and linebacker Lavonte David are starting to get league-wide recognition. Some members of the organization believe second-year safety Mark Barron is having a Pro Bowl season. Mason Foster has developed into a solid middle linebacker. Rookies Johnthan Banks, Akeem Spence and William Gholston all have had an impact. That makes for a very nice nucleus. Schiano didn’t want to get into what parts are missing, but it’s fairly obvious the Bucs could be a little better in the pass rush. “I think it can be developed within as well as outside,’’ Schiano said. “I think we have some really fine young prospects in our building right now. Will Gholston is a prime example. Six weeks ago, you’re not talking or thinking the way you are about Will as you are now. This is such the instant society, but sometimes you’ve just got to develop guys. You coach them and they get better. They watch themselves on tape, they play in games, they learn and they get better. Physically, they’re getting better.’’ This year has been mostly a lost season. But Tampa Bay’s defense really does have the potential to be dominant next season. “We’ve got some great pieces for this team,’’ Revis said. “We’ve got some great core guys. We’ve got some talent. We’ve just got to keep on building. Looking to the future, we can add to this team because there are some great core guys and great talent. We’ve just got to build around the core guys that we have here.’’

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Unfortunately we're many pieces away from a middle of the pack offense No we are not

So you think a guard, 2nd WR and starting RB (whom by many metics isn't as effective as the guy we currently have playing) are going to take this offense from 32nd to 15th?

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Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest We are only a couple pieces away from being the 30th ranked offense... LOL Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:13 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest Schiano still thinks like a college coach. If you just out-recruit you can win even if your scheme predates television Yea...that and in-game/halftime adjustments are overrated...Recruit (draft and develop with a sprinkle of FA) and you'll be good to go... Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:16 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest Unfortunately we're many pieces away from a middle of the pack offense No we are not So you think a guard, 2nd WR and starting RB (whom by many metics isn't as effective as the guy we currently have playing) are going to take this offense from 32nd to 15th? I think with those guys back and better QB play we could be middle of the pack on offense. That could be Glennon or another option. Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:31 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest Yup. Back to mediocre. Yup. That's where we want to be.Yay for being average! Yaaaaay.^that's what you sound like olaf. Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:35 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest Yup. Back to mediocre. Yup. That's where we want to be.Yay for being average! Yaaaaay.^that's what you sound like olaf. I know reading comprehension isn't your strong point, but I didn't even bring up the "middle of the pack offense" thing let alone say that is what we should aim for. Why don't you get a jump on rooting for another team next year just in case schiano is back next year? At this point you "sound like" the teacher from Charlie Brown ..... wah, wah wah, wah wah wah ....... Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:37 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest If only we still had Bennett. Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:39 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest But while we are on it, Baltimore's offense was probably considered middle of the pack last year and that worked out pretty well. Shall we look at the Giants defense in 2011? Or how about that 2002 Bucs offense? Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:43 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest If only we still had Bennett. Agree with that. If only schiano hadn't been bamboozled by those high draft picks on d lineman prior to his arrival. Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:44 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest Can you honestly say that with a healthy Carl Nicks, a healthy Mike Williams, and another decent reciever our offense wouldn't be way better? I think some of you (intentionally or not) downplay how much injuries have hurt this team. Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:45 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest Every team has to deal with injuries. It's a fairly even playing field. Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:48 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest Yup. Back to mediocre. Yup. That's where we want to be.Yay for being average! Yaaaaay.^that's what you sound like olaf. Yes, when you're dead last one year, average is acceptable the next. Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:49 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest But while we are on it, Baltimore's offense was probably considered middle of the pack last year and that worked out pretty well. Shall we look at the Giants defense in 2011? Or how about that 2002 Bucs offense? The BAL offense was mid pack but Flacco went buck wild in the playoffs so they didn't play like the same offense they were during the season. I guess you can hope for a similar transformation of your mediocre offense into an unstoppable scoring machine in the playoffs. Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:56 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest They also fired their OC halfway through the season I believe. Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 11:58 am Anonymous (@Anonymous) Posts: 0 Cabin Boy Guest Every team has to deal with injuries. It's a fairly even playing field. I agree in theory, but there is a pretty big difference between a team with 5 players on IR and a team with 13 or 14. Posted : Dec. 20, 2013 12:01 pm

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