TY Shaq, it was great fun watching you chase Mahomie all over the field during SB55. I wish you great success in your future endeavors Sir [except vs the Bucs].
Could see it coming. Man what a great FA signing he was.
The majority of the Barrett discussion on here was post Super Bowl before he signed that stupid contract.
Holy shit, he actually is trying to rewrite history and jumping right over the offseason following his breakout 2019 season. You remember that offseason, where you were trying to convince everyone that tagging Shaq was stupid and that trading him for a massive haul was the prudent move.
I layed out of the examples of what the Barrett contract was going to be: Marcus Jones, Ray Edwards, Michae Johnson, Albert Haynesworth.
I don't recall - how many of those guys had a sack and 4 QB hits vs. Patrick Mahomes in a Superbowl-winning performance?
You and a bunch of other people don't me I was wrong. Well guess what, I wasn't.
You were then and are now, with your attempt at rewriting history. You're lucky this board is an enormous piece of shit, or you would have three dozen of your quotes advocating for Shaq's trade shoved down your throat.
You would see that 90% of the arguments were after the Super Bowl when they were about to sign him to a contract, not the franchise tag. Close your eyes, follow the light, it will all be over soon Biggs. I know it hurts right now but as time goes by you'll feel better.
LOL @ $50.7M for 17.5 sacks. Another Greenberg disaster.
You would see that 90% of the arguments were after the Super Bowl when they were about to sign him to a contract, not the franchise tag.
So, let's get this revised history straight:
The 2019 season ends with Shaq being a Free Agent after having 19.5 sacks. There is only 10% of argument regarding resigning Shaq to multi-year deal or tagging him. During this time, you never said the team should trade Shaq while his value is highest. Shaq signed his Franchise tender on March 16th, 2020. You continued to whine about how the team should have traded Shaq while his value was highest.
The 2020 team goes on to win the Superbowl, with Shaq completely dominating the Superbowl from a pass-rushing perspective. After that Superbowl victory, you were never mercilessly mocked for wanting to trade Shaq during the offseason. That didn't happen. What happened was 90% of arguments took place this offseason, when he was a Free Agent yet again.
Sure, that all adds up. You've successfully fooled everyone into believing your revised history. Nice work, Mr. Red Board GM.
The majority of the Barrett discussion on here was post Super Bowl before he signed that stupid contract.
Holy shit, he actually is trying to rewrite history and jumping right over the offseason following his breakout 2019 season. You remember that offseason, where you were trying to convince everyone that tagging Shaq was stupid and that trading him for a massive haul was the prudent move.
I layed out of the examples of what the Barrett contract was going to be: Marcus Jones, Ray Edwards, Michae Johnson, Albert Haynesworth.
I don't recall - how many of those guys had a sack and 4 QB hits vs. Patrick Mahomes in a Superbowl-winning performance?
You and a bunch of other people don't me I was wrong. Well guess what, I wasn't.
You were then and are now, with your attempt at rewriting history. You're lucky this board is an enormous piece of shit, or you would have three dozen of your quotes advocating for Shaq's trade shoved down your throat.
You would see that 90% of the arguments were after the Super Bowl when they were about to sign him to a contract, not the franchise tag. Close your eyes, follow the light, it will all be over soon Biggs. I know it hurts right now but as time goes by you'll feel better.
LOL @ $50.7M for 17.5 sacks. Another Greenberg disaster.
but the point you miss is we had no choice much like the Jensen and fournette contracts.
theres the real world then there’s a fictitious madden franchise version where you can reset the game. Brady unretiring and with that come his posse
Bucs dominating the superbowl with shaq comes with a contract extension. Calling him a flash in the pan or that the contract didn’t work out is hardly impressive. Dude got hurt and never recovered. At the time of his deal, he was a double digit sack guy and those are hard to come by.
Who cares? You act like its your money and it affects you. Bucs are still going to bring everyone that they want back so the need to be tick-tacky is silly. You just want to be "right" about Shaq falling off. Which had mostly to do with his injuries more so than his actual ability. I was one of those guys you expect an "apology" from and you aint getting one. We won a SB with him so its was worth the investment regardless of what happened after the fact.The majority of the Barrett discussion on here was post Super Bowl before he signed that stupid contract.
Holy shit, he actually is trying to rewrite history and jumping right over the offseason following his breakout 2019 season. You remember that offseason, where you were trying to convince everyone that tagging Shaq was stupid and that trading him for a massive haul was the prudent move.
I layed out of the examples of what the Barrett contract was going to be: Marcus Jones, Ray Edwards, Michae Johnson, Albert Haynesworth.
I don't recall - how many of those guys had a sack and 4 QB hits vs. Patrick Mahomes in a Superbowl-winning performance?
You and a bunch of other people don't me I was wrong. Well guess what, I wasn't.
You were then and are now, with your attempt at rewriting history. You're lucky this board is an enormous piece of shit, or you would have three dozen of your quotes advocating for Shaq's trade shoved down your throat.
You would see that 90% of the arguments were after the Super Bowl when they were about to sign him to a contract, not the franchise tag. Close your eyes, follow the light, it will all be over soon Biggs. I know it hurts right now but as time goes by you'll feel better.
LOL @ $50.7M for 17.5 sacks. Another Greenberg disaster.
Who cares? You act like its your money and it affects you. Bucs are still going to bring everyone that they want back so the need to be tick-tacky is silly. You just want to be "right" about Shaq falling off. Which had mostly to do with his injuries more so than his actual ability. I was one of those guys you expect an "apology" from and you aint getting one. We won a SB with him so its was worth the investment regardless of what happened after the fact.The majority of the Barrett discussion on here was post Super Bowl before he signed that stupid contract.
Holy shit, he actually is trying to rewrite history and jumping right over the offseason following his breakout 2019 season. You remember that offseason, where you were trying to convince everyone that tagging Shaq was stupid and that trading him for a massive haul was the prudent move.
I layed out of the examples of what the Barrett contract was going to be: Marcus Jones, Ray Edwards, Michae Johnson, Albert Haynesworth.
I don't recall - how many of those guys had a sack and 4 QB hits vs. Patrick Mahomes in a Superbowl-winning performance?
You and a bunch of other people don't me I was wrong. Well guess what, I wasn't.
You were then and are now, with your attempt at rewriting history. You're lucky this board is an enormous piece of shit, or you would have three dozen of your quotes advocating for Shaq's trade shoved down your throat.
You would see that 90% of the arguments were after the Super Bowl when they were about to sign him to a contract, not the franchise tag. Close your eyes, follow the light, it will all be over soon Biggs. I know it hurts right now but as time goes by you'll feel better.
LOL @ $50.7M for 17.5 sacks. Another Greenberg disaster.
Typical Red Board. Spend the entire 2021 off-season telling me I'm wrong about the Barrett contract. I turn out to be 100% right and then 3 years later tell me how wrong I was.
The majority of the Barrett discussion on here was post Super Bowl before he signed that stupid contract.
Holy shit, he actually is trying to rewrite history and jumping right over the offseason following his breakout 2019 season. You remember that offseason, where you were trying to convince everyone that tagging Shaq was stupid and that trading him for a massive haul was the prudent move.
I layed out of the examples of what the Barrett contract was going to be: Marcus Jones, Ray Edwards, Michae Johnson, Albert Haynesworth.
I don't recall - how many of those guys had a sack and 4 QB hits vs. Patrick Mahomes in a Superbowl-winning performance?
You and a bunch of other people don't me I was wrong. Well guess what, I wasn't.
You were then and are now, with your attempt at rewriting history. You're lucky this board is an enormous piece of shit, or you would have three dozen of your quotes advocating for Shaq's trade shoved down your throat.
You would see that 90% of the arguments were after the Super Bowl when they were about to sign him to a contract, not the franchise tag. Close your eyes, follow the light, it will all be over soon Biggs. I know it hurts right now but as time goes by you'll feel better.
LOL @ $50.7M for 17.5 sacks. Another Greenberg disaster.
but the point you miss is we had no choice much like the Jensen and fournette contracts.
theres the real world then there’s a fictitious madden franchise version where you can reset the game. Brady unretiring and with that come his posse
Bucs dominating the superbowl with shaq comes with a contract extension. Calling him a flash in the pan or that the contract didn’t work out is hardly impressive. Dude got hurt and never recovered. At the time of his deal, he was a double digit sack guy and those are hard to come by.
Of course there's a choice. I literally explained with perfect accuracy why the choice was to let them go. Jensen's replacement was already on the roster. Barrett got $50.7M for 17 sacks and Jensen got $26.5M to stand there in shorts.
Citing injuries is just an exuses to make yourselves feel better about being dumb. And this wasn't the price for the Super Bowl. These extensions had nothing to do with the 2020 season.
Spend the entire 2021 off-season telling me I'm wrong about the Barrett contract.
Seeing as you wanted to trade him during the 2020 offseason, only for him to be a big part of the 2020 Superbowl victory, that is true. You were mercilessly mocked for that nonsense.
Thankfully the Front Office didn't do that retarded idea, and there is a second Lombardi in the trophy case.
Citing injuries is just an exuses to make yourselves feel better about being dumb
I’d pump the brakes on calling people dumb, considering you spent multiple years yelling how the Glazers should’ve backed up the Brinks Truck for a Molly-popping, coke head quarterback.
You were "wrong". The point of paying him to was to keep him on the team, regardless of what the cost was. Why is that? Because he was a key component to winning a super bowl. And I'm pretty sure you wanted Shaq gone after his 17 sack season because that's when his trade value was at his peek.Who cares? You act like its your money and it affects you. Bucs are still going to bring everyone that they want back so the need to be tick-tacky is silly. You just want to be "right" about Shaq falling off. Which had mostly to do with his injuries more so than his actual ability. I was one of those guys you expect an "apology" from and you aint getting one. We won a SB with him so its was worth the investment regardless of what happened after the fact.The majority of the Barrett discussion on here was post Super Bowl before he signed that stupid contract.
Holy shit, he actually is trying to rewrite history and jumping right over the offseason following his breakout 2019 season. You remember that offseason, where you were trying to convince everyone that tagging Shaq was stupid and that trading him for a massive haul was the prudent move.
I layed out of the examples of what the Barrett contract was going to be: Marcus Jones, Ray Edwards, Michae Johnson, Albert Haynesworth.
I don't recall - how many of those guys had a sack and 4 QB hits vs. Patrick Mahomes in a Superbowl-winning performance?
You and a bunch of other people don't me I was wrong. Well guess what, I wasn't.
You were then and are now, with your attempt at rewriting history. You're lucky this board is an enormous piece of shit, or you would have three dozen of your quotes advocating for Shaq's trade shoved down your throat.
You would see that 90% of the arguments were after the Super Bowl when they were about to sign him to a contract, not the franchise tag. Close your eyes, follow the light, it will all be over soon Biggs. I know it hurts right now but as time goes by you'll feel better.
LOL @ $50.7M for 17.5 sacks. Another Greenberg disaster.
Typical Red Board. Spend the entire 2021 off-season telling me I'm wrong about the Barrett contract. I turn out to be 100% right and then 3 years later tell me how wrong I was.
The majority of the Barrett discussion on here was post Super Bowl before he signed that stupid contract.
Holy shit, he actually is trying to rewrite history and jumping right over the offseason following his breakout 2019 season. You remember that offseason, where you were trying to convince everyone that tagging Shaq was stupid and that trading him for a massive haul was the prudent move.
I layed out of the examples of what the Barrett contract was going to be: Marcus Jones, Ray Edwards, Michae Johnson, Albert Haynesworth.
I don't recall - how many of those guys had a sack and 4 QB hits vs. Patrick Mahomes in a Superbowl-winning performance?
You and a bunch of other people don't me I was wrong. Well guess what, I wasn't.
You were then and are now, with your attempt at rewriting history. You're lucky this board is an enormous piece of shit, or you would have three dozen of your quotes advocating for Shaq's trade shoved down your throat.
You would see that 90% of the arguments were after the Super Bowl when they were about to sign him to a contract, not the franchise tag. Close your eyes, follow the light, it will all be over soon Biggs. I know it hurts right now but as time goes by you'll feel better.
LOL @ $50.7M for 17.5 sacks. Another Greenberg disaster.
but the point you miss is we had no choice much like the Jensen and fournette contracts.
theres the real world then there’s a fictitious madden franchise version where you can reset the game. Brady unretiring and with that come his posse
Bucs dominating the superbowl with shaq comes with a contract extension. Calling him a flash in the pan or that the contract didn’t work out is hardly impressive. Dude got hurt and never recovered. At the time of his deal, he was a double digit sack guy and those are hard to come by.
Of course there's a choice. I literally explained with perfect accuracy why the choice was to let them go. Jensen's replacement was already on the roster. Barrett got $50.7M for 17 sacks and Jensen got $26.5M to stand there in shorts.
Citing injuries is just an exuses to make yourselves feel better about being dumb. And this wasn't the price for the Super Bowl. These extensions had nothing to do with the 2020 season.
you are not living in reality
let's see. "Hey Tom, thanks so much for you the Greatest quarterback of all time, coming back to this blessed franchise. You won the Superbowl in year 1 and had a franchise best 13 wins in Year 2. As the first order of business of coming back, we are not going to sign the guy you have been comfortable with snapping you the ball every play the last 2 years. Yes - we can afford him but just dont think it'll make sense in year 2 or 3 of the contract so if you dont mind for that tough decision you made to come back, would you mind working with an unknown 3rd round pick instead?"
or "Hey Tom...yadda yadda yadda...we know Playoff Lenny scores a touchdown in every single playoff game, and is your security blanket but again, we truly do appreciate you coming back but are going to have to have you trust the rookie running back in your swan song year"
or back to Shaq Barrett in the March 2021, coming off a Superbowl with the notion to run it back with the same starting group, let's leave out our sack leader!
you can crunch numbers and make assumptions but in all three of those cases...the Bucs indeed had no realistic choice other than to sign these guys
and to get controversial, the Bucs have no choice this year on Baker, Evans, and Winfield. All three were key contributors to the teams success this year. Do you try and build off it or do you say "Baker is too inconsistent his career, Evans is on the wrong side of 30, etc."
Fact of the matter is the Bucs have no clear good alternatives at QB, this teams offense is nothing without Evans and father time will eventually get him, and Winfield is a stud at safety, a position teams often regret signing big money contracts too
it's easy to be captain hindsight but in the real world, Bucs need to make the obvious moves even though they dont always work out.
Blowing up the team or not bringing back key contributors after our 4th season in a row making the playoffs is not rationale thinking, even if we end up 6-11 next year.
Blowing up the team or not bringing back key contributors after our 4th season in a row making the playoffs is not rationale thinking, even if we end up 6-11 next year
It’s not rationale or realistic because the team is selling tickets and advertising. The team goal is to sell those things and what sells those things is relevance and relevance is more tied to hope than ultimate success (winning the SB). This is why a season like last year puts the team right back into “bring back the band” mode even when it didn’t start that way.