I'm amazed at the so-called 'experts' around here who are so willing to run Glennon out of town without looking at the "whole" picture. Let's start with Wilson, as he is basis for argument. Wilson in NOT a rookie, he's in his second year and was Seattle's starter coming out of TC his rookie season, playing in a Darrel Bevell offense. Surely, you know who Bevell is. Glennon is a rook, not expected to start unless disaster, and that's what happened, a disaster. He's playing in a out-dated offense, with ZERO creativity and zero ability to make adjustments. We had 3 players, IMO, on offense that might start on another NFL team. Street FA's at TE, RB, #2 and #3 Wr, and, of course, are always over-rated o-line. Our defense gave up a number of leads late in games, for instance the Seattle game that we lead 24-0. Might the defense have helped a bit, and the 2nd half playcalling was atrocious, on cue. IMO, the guy did OK, considering the absolute circus and incompetence going on around him. Don't know any rookies who could have done much better given the same circumstances. Let's see what he can do with some viable NFL talent around him on offense and a competent coaching staff around him.Did you notice how many time he was asked to roll out left, then pivot around and try to throw? That is pathetic coaching/playcalling IMO..Really disappointed how so many fans and so-called "experts" are so willing to run this guy out of town, without giving him a fighting chance. Theres a lot to be critical of his game, but a lot of the criticism has crossed the line into personas insults and attacks, which is pretty sad statement on the knowledge and even character of our fans. Time will tell how Glennon improves or regresses. But, honestly, I'd like nothing more than to see him succeed, if nothing more, to see him stick it in the face to all those who didn't give him a fair evaluation, and especially those who are downright nasty and disrespectful. I've long thought this was one of the worst fanbases in the NFL, but there's no doubt now.
The thought of flopping to another non-playoff season is scary. Glennon isn't a heralded player. There's a CHANCE he could become a franchise QB. There's a chance I could (I'm the sneaky type that puts ex lax in the other team's Gatorade). The guy that comes out on top after the combine has a better chance than Glennon. Doesn't mean he will or won't. All about risks.
I'm amazed at the so-called 'experts' around here who are so willing to run Glennon out of town without looking at the "whole" picture. Let's start with Wilson, as he is basis for argument. Wilson in NOT a rookie, he's in his second year and was Seattle's starter coming out of TC his rookie season, playing in a Darrel Bevell offense. Surely, you know who Bevell is. Glennon is a rook, not expected to start unless disaster, and that's what happened, a disaster. He's playing in a out-dated offense, with ZERO creativity and zero ability to make adjustments. We had 3 players, IMO, on offense that might start on another NFL team. Street FA's at TE, RB, #2 and #3 Wr, and, of course, are always over-rated o-line. Our defense gave up a number of leads late in games, for instance the Seattle game that we lead 24-0. Might the defense have helped a bit, and the 2nd half playcalling was atrocious, on cue. IMO, the guy did OK, considering the absolute circus and incompetence going on around him. Don't know any rookies who could have done much better given the same circumstances. Let's see what he can do with some viable NFL talent around him on offense and a competent coaching staff around him.Did you notice how many time he was asked to roll out left, then pivot around and try to throw? That is pathetic coaching/playcalling IMO..Really disappointed how so many fans and so-called "experts" are so willing to run this guy out of town, without giving him a fighting chance. Theres a lot to be critical of his game, but a lot of the criticism has crossed the line into personas insults and attacks, which is pretty sad statement on the knowledge and even character of our fans. Time will tell how Glennon improves or regresses. But, honestly, I'd like nothing more than to see him succeed, if nothing more, to see him stick it in the face to all those who didn't give him a fair evaluation, and especially those who are downright nasty and disrespectful. I've long thought this was one of the worst fanbases in the NFL, but there's no doubt now.
I don't want him run out of town. I want him to remain here as a backup.
Glennon deserves a shot. He's got something that few QB's nowadays seem to have anymore....he can drop back, read a defense, go through his progressions, and deliver an accurate ball; as a rookie that's saying a lot. While that might seem basic...I would say that the majority of QB's in the league have difficulty with at least one of those basic areas.
Anyone who is comparing Wilson's Super Bowl season to Dilfer's is a bit crazy in my opinion. And Trent would be the first one to tell you that.
True ....Wilson's stat line in that 1st playoff game against New Orleans would have embarrassed even Trent Dilfer....103 yards , 0 TD's . LOL
Dilfer's Super Bowl season -134-for- 226 (59.3%), 1,502 yards 12 TDs and 11 INTsWilson Super Bowl season- 257-for- 407(63.1%) for 3,357 yards and 26 TDs and 9 INTs and another 539 yards on the groundDon't let the facts get in the way.
I was clearly joking . Everyone knows Wilson is better than Dilfer , but make no mistake , he's still a caretaker and not an elite QB in this league at this point. The Seahawks win with defense and a strong running game.
Haha! I figured as much, and no he isn't elite – yet. And maybe never will be. But he does possess a ton of ability with his athleticism, smarts and overall handling of the offense. I love the kid, but there are no guarantees of course.
I'm amazed at the so-called 'experts' around here who are so willing to run Glennon out of town without looking at the "whole" picture. Let's start with Wilson, as he is basis for argument. Wilson in NOT a rookie, he's in his second year and was Seattle's starter coming out of TC his rookie season, playing in a Darrel Bevell offense. Surely, you know who Bevell is. Glennon is a rook, not expected to start unless disaster, and that's what happened, a disaster. He's playing in a out-dated offense, with ZERO creativity and zero ability to make adjustments. We had 3 players, IMO, on offense that might start on another NFL team. Street FA's at TE, RB, #2 and #3 Wr, and, of course, are always over-rated o-line. Our defense gave up a number of leads late in games, for instance the Seattle game that we lead 24-0. Might the defense have helped a bit, and the 2nd half playcalling was atrocious, on cue. IMO, the guy did OK, considering the absolute circus and incompetence going on around him. Don't know any rookies who could have done much better given the same circumstances. Let's see what he can do with some viable NFL talent around him on offense and a competent coaching staff around him.Did you notice how many time he was asked to roll out left, then pivot around and try to throw? That is pathetic coaching/playcalling IMO..Really disappointed how so many fans and so-called "experts" are so willing to run this guy out of town, without giving him a fighting chance. Theres a lot to be critical of his game, but a lot of the criticism has crossed the line into personas insults and attacks, which is pretty sad statement on the knowledge and even character of our fans. Time will tell how Glennon improves or regresses. But, honestly, I'd like nothing more than to see him succeed, if nothing more, to see him stick it in the face to all those who didn't give him a fair evaluation, and especially those who are downright nasty and disrespectful. I've long thought this was one of the worst fanbases in the NFL, but there's no doubt now.
I'm amazed at how butthurt you Glennon fan boys get at the mere mention of his shortcomings. Quote some posters talking about getting rid of Mike. Seriously, no one is saying that. Literally, on a message board where no one agrees about anything. Is it ok that some of us don't think he is a sure bet top 15 QB? Yeah there was shit all around him, but my eye can still see he doesn't move very well. Or throw the ball especially hard. Those two facts require him to play the position better then the vast majority of his peers to gain the same results on the field. He has shown no killer instinct at all. Nothing clutch yet. He's not a day 1 starter. Stupid Greg as stupid does, but that doesn't mean Mike HAS to continue as a starter in order to continue to develop as a quarterback in the NFL. Mike Glennon should have been Aaron Rogers. I have no problem letting him cook on the bench for another season or two and getting a vet in who plays the position right now well enough for us to compete right now. If Mike Glennon really is ready, he'll beat out Mike Vick quick enough. You know the new HC wants to build around a young qb. Really you Glennon fan boys should be begging for a vet qb. #7 on a qb sinks Mike's battleship.
Good post , Buccanay
Anyone who is comparing Wilson's Super Bowl season to Dilfer's is a bit crazy in my opinion. And Trent would be the first one to tell you that.
True ....Wilson's stat line in that 1st playoff game against New Orleans would have embarrassed even Trent Dilfer....103 yards , 0 TD's . LOL
Dilfer's Super Bowl season -134-for- 226 (59.3%), 1,502 yards 12 TDs and 11 INTsWilson Super Bowl season- 257-for- 407(63.1%) for 3,357 yards and 26 TDs and 9 INTs and another 539 yards on the groundDon't let the facts get in the way.
I was clearly joking . Everyone knows Wilson is better than Dilfer , but make no mistake , he's still a caretaker and not an elite QB in this league at this point. The Seahawks win with defense and a strong running game.
Haha! I figured as much, and no he isn't elite – yet. And maybe never will be. But he does possess a ton of ability with his athleticism, smarts and overall handling of the offense. I love the kid, but there are no guarantees of course.
Yeah . I think he's a rare combo of play-making ability mixed with smart mistake free play. Usually when you think of play-makers and play extenders, you think of the Johnny Football types - the riverboat gamblers/ gunslingers who turn the ball over a lot . Not so with Wilson.
Yes it proves that the Bucs nor anyone else for that matter, cannot win in this league without a quarterback that can extend plays and throw on the run....The era of the drop back passer is just about over...goodbye Mike Glennon...it was nice knowing ya...
Yes it proves that the Bucs nor anyone else for that matter, cannot win in this league without a quarterback that can extend plays and throw on the run....The era of the drop back passer is just about over...goodbye Mike Glennon...it was nice knowing ya...
The stats do not back up that statement.
The era of the drop back passer is just about over...
QBs of SB Winning teams since 2000:T. Brady (3)B. Roethlisberger (2)E. Manning (2)P. ManningR. WilsonJ. FlaccoA. RodgersD. BreesB. JohnsonT. DilferK. WarnerDrop back passer era over? Which of the above QBs do you consider as 'mobile' rather than 'drop back'?
The era of the drop back passer is just about over...
QBs of SB Winning teams since 2000:T. Brady (3)B. Roethlisberger (2)E. Manning (2)P. ManningR. WilsonJ. FlaccoA. RodgersD. BreesB. JohnsonT. DilferK. WarnerDrop back passer era over? Which of the above QBs do you consider as 'mobile' rather than 'drop back'?
QBs of Super Bowl winning teams since Jan 2014:R.WilsonWhich of the above QBs do you consider as 'mobile' rather than 'drop back'? All of them?
The era of the drop back passer is just about over...
QBs of SB Winning teams since 2000:T. Brady (3)B. Roethlisberger (2)E. Manning (2)P. ManningR. WilsonJ. FlaccoA. RodgersD. BreesB. JohnsonT. DilferK. WarnerDrop back passer era over? Which of the above QBs do you consider as 'mobile' rather than 'drop back'?
QBs of Super Bowl winning teams since Jan 2014:R.WilsonWhich of the above QBs do you consider as 'mobile' rather than 'drop back'? All of them?
SO you think your 1 year sample makes a stronger case than his 13 year sample , Beavis ??
The era of the drop back passer is just about over...
QBs of SB Winning teams since 2000:T. Brady (3)B. Roethlisberger (2)E. Manning (2)P. ManningR. WilsonJ. FlaccoA. RodgersD. BreesB. JohnsonT. DilferK. WarnerDrop back passer era over? Which of the above QBs do you consider as 'mobile' rather than 'drop back'?
QBs of Super Bowl winning teams since Jan 2014:R.WilsonWhich of the above QBs do you consider as 'mobile' rather than 'drop back'? All of them?
SO you think your 1 year sample makes a stronger case than his 13 year sample , Beavis ??
SO you think I think that, Butthead??
Lord Beavis is an idiot ....that's what I think ....
I'm amazed at the so-called 'experts' around here who are so willing to run Glennon out of town without looking at the "whole" picture. Let's start with Wilson, as he is basis for argument. Wilson in NOT a rookie, he's in his second year and was Seattle's starter coming out of TC his rookie season, playing in a Darrel Bevell offense. Surely, you know who Bevell is. Glennon is a rook, not expected to start unless disaster, and that's what happened, a disaster. He's playing in a out-dated offense, with ZERO creativity and zero ability to make adjustments. We had 3 players, IMO, on offense that might start on another NFL team. Street FA's at TE, RB, #2 and #3 Wr, and, of course, are always over-rated o-line. Our defense gave up a number of leads late in games, for instance the Seattle game that we lead 24-0. Might the defense have helped a bit, and the 2nd half playcalling was atrocious, on cue. IMO, the guy did OK, considering the absolute circus and incompetence going on around him. Don't know any rookies who could have done much better given the same circumstances. Let's see what he can do with some viable NFL talent around him on offense and a competent coaching staff around him.Did you notice how many time he was asked to roll out left, then pivot around and try to throw? That is pathetic coaching/playcalling IMO..Really disappointed how so many fans and so-called "experts" are so willing to run this guy out of town, without giving him a fighting chance. Theres a lot to be critical of his game, but a lot of the criticism has crossed the line into personas insults and attacks, which is pretty sad statement on the knowledge and even character of our fans. Time will tell how Glennon improves or regresses. But, honestly, I'd like nothing more than to see him succeed, if nothing more, to see him stick it in the face to all those who didn't give him a fair evaluation, and especially those who are downright nasty and disrespectful. I've long thought this was one of the worst fanbases in the NFL, but there's no doubt now.
I'm amazed at how butthurt you Glennon fan boys get at the mere mention of his shortcomings. Quote some posters talking about getting rid of Mike. Seriously, no one is saying that. Literally, on a message board where no one agrees about anything. Is it ok that some of us don't think he is a sure bet top 15 QB? Yeah there was **CENSORED** all around him, but my eye can still see he doesn't move very well. Or throw the ball especially hard. Those two facts require him to play the position better then the vast majority of his peers to gain the same results on the field. He has shown no killer instinct at all. Nothing clutch yet. He's not a day 1 starter. Stupid Greg as stupid does, but that doesn't mean Mike HAS to continue as a starter in order to continue to develop as a quarterback in the NFL. Mike Glennon should have been Aaron Rogers. I have no problem letting him cook on the bench for another season or two and getting a vet in who plays the position right now well enough for us to compete right now. If Mike Glennon really is ready, he'll beat out Mike Vick quick enough. You know the new HC wants to build around a young qb. Really you Glennon fan boys should be begging for a vet qb. #7 on a qb sinks Mike's battleship.
"butt hurt, glennon fan boys".....the epitome of real mental midget
