Six Senior Bowl defenders give the scouting report on facing Johnny ManzielBy Eric Edholm 7 minutes agoShutdown Corner Yahoo Sports Johnny Manziel (Getty Images) MOBILE, Ala. — We polled six SEC players who have had a good look at Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel over the past two seasons, and they roundly see him as a top talent whose skills should translate in the NFL as he prepares for May's draft. Among the opinions of him we gathered here at the Senior Bowl, here’s a sample of them: What stood out the most about facing Johnny Manziel? Auburn DE Dee Ford: "Toughest player I ever faced. He’s a playmaker. He’s a true competitor." Vanderbilt S Kenny Ladler: "I think he’s just unorthodox. He creates his own plays, he knows how to manage his offense well and he makes plays that normal quarterbacks usually don’t make."
Chris Smith tries to take down Johnny Manziel (Getty Images)Arkansas DE Chris Smith: "The toughest, most physical offensive line we faced this year was Texas A&M, and those guys — Jake Matthews, especially — did such a good job protecting for [Manziel]. But he’s a playmaker, man. There’s no two ways about it. A lot of people talk bad about him, but he’s got it. He’s got eyes in the back of his head. Every time I got close to him, I felt like he got away at the last second. I sacked him one time, but I swear it felt like it took 15 or 20 seconds to get to him. That’s the thing about him: He can just keep plays alive. He’s going to be really good at the next level." Alabama LB Adrian Hubbard: "Everybody can be beat, but he’s a great player and he does what he does well within their system. It’s built for him to [improvise] and make plays on the run. I don’t know how that will work [in the NFL], but he’s tough and competitive." LSU S Craig Loston: "He’s a great college player. We did a great job against him twice [in 2012 and 2013]. We defended him as well as anyone, I think. I don’t know if he’ll make a great pro because I am not paid to make those decisions, but he has skill." Auburn CB Chris Davis: "Man, why are you asking me about Johnny Manziel? [laughs] No, he’s a great player, a truly great player." What was your team's defensive gameplan to try to stop him? Ford: "We just went at him. We weren’t going to sit back. The year before we did that. I told my coach [in 2013], ‘Hey, we can’t do that. We’ve got to go at him.’ It paid off in the end. I got to him [for sacks] twice at the end of the game." Ladler: "We tried to contain him so he didn’t scramble and you try to make him throw short routes. He would run around until he just found someone open. We tried to make sure that didn’t happen." Smith: "A lot of teams try to just contain him, but our coaches wanted us to go get him. That was the message before the game: Go get him. If you sit back and just try to contain him and keep him in the pocket, he’ll kill you with his arm. We tried to go after him, and we did a pretty good job of it, but Johnny’s going to be Johnny."
Adrian Hubbard chasing Johnny Manziel (Getty Images)Hubbard: "We tried to put him in a little cup and kind of cramp his space a little bit. That's what the coaches wanted. But he’s Johnny Manziel, and he can beat your plan. Even if you do your job, he can get away. He’s one of the best we’ve faced." Loston: "Our plan was to try to keep him in the pocket, make him beat us from the pocket. We did a pretty good job of keeping him bottled up throughout the whole game. We kept him in the pocket for the most part, and he caught us in a couple of errors, but I think our D-line did a great job of collapsing things around him and forcing him into some pressure throws." Davis: "He’s kind of hard to prepare for. He’s a defensive coordinator’s nightmare. He can beat you with his feet and his arm. It’s tough to prepare for a guy like Johnny Manziel because not many guys can play like that, so it’s hard to [simulate]."
As I've been saying, we need to get this guy.Smart and fast is deadly in the nfl, and this kid has that.
Sounds like they are giving a review of paying against Tim Tebow. No thanks.
I think we have more pressing needs...however, if we take JFF I will be stoked.
Listen the guy from LSU. They shut him down twice.
But does he have it between the ears to play in the NFL? you must have a high football IQ to play in todays NFL, no doubt he has the skills but does he have the smarts for it?? That's my biggest question for him
But does he have it between the ears to play in the NFL? you must have a high football IQ to play in todays NFL, no doubt he has the skills but does he have the smarts for it?? That's my biggest question for him
Compare him to guys like Vince Young and Lamawkus Russel who both went top 10
Anyone who compares Johnny to Tebow immediately loses all credibility in my book. They literally have nothing in common.
Anyone who compares Johnny to Tebow immediately loses all credibility in my book. They literally have nothing in common.
Yes they do, both Tebow and Manziel are not currently in the NFL. :-*
Tebow never won a Peach Bowl...
I think Cleveland puts the full court press on Manziel....makes too much sense for them.
How Manziel does in the NFL will be directly related to how flexible his head coach is. For example, Manziel would be a complete bust under Schiano because he wouldn't let Manziel do his best at improvising a broken play (and I'm only singling Schiano out because we all know him). I think in most current NFL schemes that do not allow for the quarterback to deviate from the way the play is called, Manziel is going to be a bust. However, with a coach with a flexible mind and offensive scheme, I think he just might do pretty well (and no, I don't think Lovie/Tedford are those types of minds - JMO).
Tebow never won a Peach Bowl...
lawls..As fun as Manziel is to watch, I just can't see him being prolific in the league....But then Russell Wilson comes to mind... I was OK with Dangeruss in the 3rd, same way I'd be OK with Manziel in the <or= 3rd. We talk about smarts and Glennon has that. He may be able to run Tedfords offense well? Just like people thought Vick would obviously be a better fit for Chip Kelly's O, and Foles lit it the fuck up. It'll be interesting to see what happens.
I think Cleveland puts the full court press on Manziel....makes too much sense for them.
.....Just like Trent Richardson...It IS the Browns afterall.
Anyone who compares Johnny to Tebow immediately loses all credibility in my book. They literally have nothing in common.
Yes they do, both Tebow and Manziel are not currently in the NFL. :-*
QuarterbacksRunning quarterbacksPlayed in the SECBetter college players than pro prospects.They have alot in common. Does Johnny throw better than Tebow... yes but who doesn't. To say anyone who ever compares the two losses credibility only shows that you are a blind Johnny football fan. For the record I didn't even compare the two as players. I simply said the LSU defender and a few other guys described defending him the way you would defend Tebow. Make him stay in the pocket. If a defense wants to keep you in the pocket that's a testament to your passing ability. They would rather you stay in the pocket and force you to be accurate than to have you running around. I would've compared him to guys like Colin or cam but those are 6 ft 5 230 pound plus guys who are faster and have stronger arms. Johnny is a six fit tall 4.6-4.7 athlete who will be slower than at least one of the defensive lineman across from him and probably 2 of the LBs.
According to a radio interview with Greg Cosell of NFL films, JFF doesn't know his own offense and can't play within a structured offense. Also says he hardly ever makes the routine 3/5/7 step drop and hit his open receivers like he is supposed to. Everything with JFF is backyard football. You would have to create a whole new offense to accommodate him the way the Broncos did with Tebow.Source: http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/01/23/greg-cosell-looks-at-texans-qb-issues-ahead-at-the-draft/