still absolutely baffles me that people think we should draft a qb when we have GLARING needs at DE and both Guard positions
Well, it's entirely possible that there won't be a DE worth taking at #7 and no OG is worth taking that high. And there are no more valuable players in the league than franchise quarterbacks. Of course, it's entirely possible that there will be no QBs worth taking that high as well. (It's McShay, so take it for what it's worth, but he has Manziel going to the Jags, for example.)
spot on!
still absolutely baffles me that people think we should draft a qb when we have GLARING needs at DE and both Guard positions
Well, it's entirely possible that there won't be a DE worth taking at #7 and no OG is worth taking that high. And there are no more valuable players in the league than franchise quarterbacks. Of course, it's entirely possible that there will be no QBs worth taking that high as well. (It's McShay, so take it for what it's worth, but he has Manziel going to the Jags, for example.)
yeah, so that means we should trade down and accumulate some picks instead of drafting a qb
still absolutely baffles me that people think we should draft a qb when we have GLARING needs at DE and both Guard positions
Well, it's entirely possible that there won't be a DE worth taking at #7 and no OG is worth taking that high. And there are no more valuable players in the league than franchise quarterbacks. Of course, it's entirely possible that there will be no QBs worth taking that high as well. (It's McShay, so take it for what it's worth, but he has Manziel going to the Jags, for example.)
yeah, so that means we should trade down and accumulate some picks instead of drafting a qb
I'm perfectly ok with the idea of trading down if they can get a good offer. They have to be able to find that offer though. That said, if one of the top four qb prospects is there and the new front office thinks he's a franchise-calibur prospect, I'm all for them drafting him. This isn't me hating on Glennon. It's just hard to pass on a top QB prospect and I'll trust the new staff until they give me reason not to.
Plus his mobility is suspect. Not sure yet what to make of him and his ceiling. Pretty much on the fence with him as a starter but he might be the best option going into next year. I can acknowledge that. But if we think we can upgrade the position then do it and don't look back.
You take the QB and you change your franchise for a decade or more. The OL or even the pass rusher doesn't do that. If you don't believe in Glennon and you do believe in one of the QB's then you take the QB without a second thought.
Plus his mobility is suspect. Not sure yet what to make of him and his ceiling. Pretty much on the fence with him as a starter but he might be the best option going into next year. I can acknowledge that. But if we think we can upgrade the position then do it and don't look back.
mobility, schmobilityI'll admit I don't know what his ceiling is either, but I do know one thing. The guy can throw a slant pass. And the guy can throw the deep ball. And the guy doesn't throw bone-headed int's.He may not be the most exciting QB to watch, but I don't give a damn about that. You don't need a quarterback that can throw the ball around for a ton of yards, you need a guy who can throw the ball around without turning the ball over That's exactly why the lions aren't in the playoffs. That's exactly why the cowboys aren't in the playoffs. That's exactly why the bears aren't in the playoffs.And its exactly why the eagles are, why the broncos are, why the seahawks are, why the saints are, why the chiefs are
You take the QB and you change your franchise for a decade or more. The OL or even the pass rusher doesn't do that. If you don't believe in Glennon and you do believe in one of the QB's then you take the QB without a second thought.
I guess that's right, but to me, there isn't a QB there that fits that billBridgewater is the only one that comes closeManziel is still, and forever will be a wildcard just based on his size and play styleBrotles hasn't proven ish, and neither has CarrSo I don't see why we roll the dice on one of those guys, and hitch the franchise to another unproven wishy-washy QB, when we already know what we've got.And don't tell me we thought that we had that in freeman, because glennon is a COMPLETELY different prospect and player.
When Martin comes back and Williams comes backand we have a more solid O-lineall we need is a central node that consistently gets the ball quickly in our playmakers' hands without turning the ball overand I firmly believe that is what glennon can do, that is point blank why I think we roll with glennon, and target some o-line and DE in the draft and FAif we actually had a pass rush outside of GMC, who knows how good this defense could beand if we had a dominant defense that could actually get off the field, who knows how good this offense could beOk I officially overloaded this thread, carry on ;D
We should trade up.
I'm sorry, but I don't see Manziel, Bortles, or Hundley as an upgrade over Glennon assuming any of those guys even gets to us (hopefully they all go top 5). I would rate my Bucs Draft Board1. Khalil Mack (although I just know he's going to end up in Atlanta and hate it)2. Javeon Clowney3. Jake Mathews (going to the Rams though)4. Sammy Watkins (My gut is telling me we address DE in free agency because we know this is likely BPA at #7)I'm intrigued by Anthony Barr, but he just doesn't seem to play very strong and sends my bust radar going.
I stopped reading, after you said I'm sorry....
I stopped reading, after you said I'm sorry....
I'll try to keeps words at or below 2 syllables and phonetically simple for you next time.
I stopped reading, after you said I'm sorry....
I'll try to keeps words at or below 2 syllables and phonetically simple for you next time.
I stopped reading after you said keeps words...
I was worried you'd see phonetically coming up and get intimidated (scurred).
Brett Hundley at #7 overall
