Did someone really say west coast offense is a fad? Do you know what chip Kelly's offense is???? Some of you really don't know football
Did someone really say west coast offense is a fad? Do you know what chip Kelly's offense is???? Some of you really don't know football
Right. Chip Kelly runs a spread offense.
When was the last time you saw a Jon Gruden or Andy Reid offense line up 5 wide????
Did someone really say west coast offense is a fad? Do you know what chip Kelly's offense is???? Some of you really don't know football
Right. Chip Kelly runs a spread offense.
You're both right, kinda.Chip Kelly was hired as the head coach, but (I think the story goes) the GM was concerned by reports/sources who told him it could be career threatening to rely on the spread offense in the NFL - so he hedged a bit and brought in Pat Shurmer as his OC - Pat is from Mike Holmgren's coaching tree, and spent 10 years in Philly with Andy Reid. The theory was to marry the two systems as much as possible - Kelly and Shumer spent a lot of time (allegedly) prior to this season to bring together a system that could allow for concepts of both - I think in the beginning you may have seen a lot of WCO then later, as the scheme caught on, they were to transition to more of the spread (if it worked).If that's true, it seems to have worked pretty well...and Shurmer may have lightning in a bottle...
It's a combination offense. Not just a spread. Lots of elements of WCO, read option and spread.
If the West Coast offense is a fad.....it might be the longest running fad of all time.
If the West Coast offense is a fad.....it might be the longest running fad of all time.
Yes, west coast is a fad and scrambling QBs are here to stay, lol. Love the red board!
If the West Coast offense is a fad.....it might be the longest running fad of all time.
Yes, west coast is a fad and scrambling QBs are here to stay, lol. Love the red board!
I don't see why those two things have to be mutually exclusive. There have been successful scrambling QBs around even longer than there has been a West Coast offense. Good coaches adapt and run schemes that accentuate their best players' strengths. All 32 teams are never going to all be the same, and that is a good thing. There will always be a healthy dose of West Coast and Mobile QBs in the NFL.
Mobile QBs are a flash in the pan. Long term success is unlikely. Mobile QBs are great as long as they work through ALL of their progressions before trying to run. It's my biggest fear with drafting one. He tucks and run after his #2 option is covered.
If the West Coast offense is a fad.....it might be the longest running fad of all time.
Yes, west coast is a fad and scrambling QBs are here to stay, lol. Love the red board!
I don't see why those two things have to be mutually exclusive. There have been successful scrambling QBs around even longer than there has been a West Coast offense. Good coaches adapt and run schemes that accentuate their best players' strengths. All 32 teams are never going to all be the same, and that is a good thing. There will always be a healthy dose of West Coast and Mobile QBs in the NFL.
Steve Young is a perfect example
McNabb, Vick, Tarkenton, Garcia, Young, Favre, Stewart, Elway, McNair, and Cunningham spring to mind. There are many more. The mobile QB adds an extra element and it's hard to defend. It is not a flash in the pan. The truth is in today's world QBs are just coming out of college as better athletes, so it's not rare anymore. The unathletic statues are becoming the rarity.
McNabb, Vick, Tarkenton, Garcia, Young, Favre, Stewart, Elway, McNair, and Cunningham spring to mind. There are many more. The mobile QB adds an extra element and it's hard to defend. It is not a flash in the pan. The truth is in today's world QBs are just coming out of college as better athletes, so it's not rare anymore. The unathletic statues are becoming the rarity.
I can't speak for all of those guys so I won't try because I may be wrong. I can speak for Vick and Garcia. I like the availablity of running for a first down when the play breaks down, it was a big reason Freeman and this team beat so many shitty teams in '10. With Vick and Garcia, both of those guys routinely left the pocket early without a real reason and missed chances for big plays while running around.I like guys like Teddy who will stand in the pocket and get sacked. In my mind, the scrambling becomes very useful when blitzes come free and the defense gets a free runner. I would imagine a majority of running QBs leave the pocket to quickly because they can. Maybe the new generation of athletes at QB like Teddy who can run but don't will be different but guys like Garcia and Vick did more harm than good IMO.
I like guys like Teddy who will stand in the pocket and get sacked.
Lol wut? :oLook man, some QBs that can run, do it too much and too often. That doesn't mean the ability to run is a bad thing. Look at Andrew Luck. He is basically Peyton Manning with the added benefit of mobility. Aaron Rodgers is a great QB and also one of the most mobile. It's a good thing and it is the future because QBs are expected to be athletes nowadays. You should learn to embrace it.
It's a combination offense. Not just a spread. Lots of elements of WCO, read option and spread.
Read Option is the (or more accurately "a") Spread.Urban Myer runs a Spread Option, Chip Kelly runs a Zone Read - they spread the defense out differently, in order to do different things - I believe they're the two predominant types of spread offenses.
