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Posted by: @firebowles2023

I just know our LB core is atrocious...

Yeah, but we drafted a WR with "good value."

 

 
Posted : May. 9, 2025 10:24 am
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Egbuka is more than good value as it is great value.  

 
Posted : May. 9, 2025 11:05 am
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Posted by: @alldaway

Egbuka is more than good value as it is great value.  

OK. And our LB core is still atrocious.

 

 
Posted : May. 9, 2025 12:05 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

I just know our LB core is atrocious...

Yeah, but we drafted a WR with "good value."

 

No team has an opportunity to fix everything in a single season.

If you know you can’t fix it all, you can commit to an alternate plan: focus on building your strength’s - that is what this team has done. Especially when you remember that there was a big price that had to be paid for going all-in for a Super Bowl, cap limitations took away free agency’s ability to strengthen one side of the ball. Baker leveraged the strength of the offense.

Licht could have blown it up and focused on a QB in the draft (ie, as our 50!year history proves, not all the 1st round shiny college QB’s are all they’re cracked up to be)…but he did not. He found a QB that could keep us competitive - so Licht took the draft resources last season and primarily focused on bolstering the offense.

This year was a weak draft where many teams felt 2nd round talent was getting pushed up as 1st round options (especially at edge). Successful teams focus on value because - when in doubt - take the value in the round.

Again, just because you think we needed ILB & edge in the first round - it doesn’t mean the options were graded by NFL teams as being 1st round talent.

Need shouldn’t & thankfully doesn’t drive decisions in smart, well-run, successful, franchises.

We strengthened starting CB’s in the draft, added a much better free agent Edge, and then layered depth at critical positions.

You can be successful by making your strengths, stronger (arguably, it is THE way to become & maintain success). All successful teams do this, I think it seems strange to most Buc fans because we haven’t seen a slow progression in building a championship level team, often.

This draft showed me that the Buccaneer FO believes they are continuing to build a team that can challenge in the post-season. I believe they are correct. I have zero problem with the Egbuka pick - I was surprised it wasn’t Matthew Golden - but the pick of Egbuka was a piece that filled a strategy they’re going after.

Maybe the strength of NFL defenses is to take away the quick-strike/deep threat. Maybe that is the reason for the WR room with short/medium, quick-pass, YAK producers that can achieve chunk yardage in a way that takes advantage of weakness most NFL teams struggle to stop?

I think it could work well - but as we saw - that means you’re going need a lot of a specific type of WR’s on your roster.

I for one, am looking forward to seeing if we can make it work!

 

 

 
Posted : May. 9, 2025 12:17 pm
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Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @firebowles2023

I just know our LB core is atrocious...

Yeah, but we drafted a WR with "good value."

 

If you're referring to the 7th rounder, I'd agree. The first rounder? Even though I like the player, not so much.

 

 
Posted : May. 9, 2025 12:20 pm
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Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @firebowles2023

I just know our LB core is atrocious...

Yeah, but we drafted a WR with "good value."

 

No team has an opportunity to fix everything in a single season.

 

 

let me tell you a story about the 2020 Tampa Bay Buccaneers....

needed a QB, signed the GOAT

needed an elite TE, traded for Gronkowski

needed an RB, signed Lombardi Lenny

needed a WR, signed Antonio Brown

needed offensive line help, drafted future hall of famer Tristian Wirfs

needed a safety, drafted AWJ

 

i dont think you could have scripted a better offseason and look at that...resulted with a Super Bowl 

 

 

 

 

 
Posted : May. 9, 2025 12:58 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

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Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @firebowles2023

I just know our LB core is atrocious...

Yeah, but we drafted a WR with "good value."

 

No team has an opportunity to fix everything in a single season.

 

 

let me tell you a story about the 2020 Tampa Bay Buccaneers....

needed a QB, signed the GOAT

needed an elite TE, traded for Gronkowski

needed an RB, signed Lombardi Lenny

needed a WR, signed Antonio Brown

needed offensive line help, drafted future hall of famer Tristian Wirfs

needed a safety, drafted AWJ

 

i dont think you could have scripted a better offseason and look at that...resulted with a Super Bowl 

 

 

 

 

 

Not exactly a BPA year

 

 
Posted : May. 9, 2025 2:02 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @white-tiger

Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @firebowles2023

I just know our LB core is atrocious...

Yeah, but we drafted a WR with "good value."

 

No team has an opportunity to fix everything in a single season.

 

 

let me tell you a story about the 2020 Tampa Bay Buccaneers....

needed a QB, signed the GOAT

needed an elite TE, traded for Gronkowski

needed an RB, signed Lombardi Lenny

needed a WR, signed Antonio Brown

needed offensive line help, drafted future hall of famer Tristian Wirfs

needed a safety, drafted AWJ

 

i dont think you could have scripted a better offseason and look at that...resulted with a Super Bowl 

 

 

 

 

Yep, and we ratcheted up the culture of the organization… and years worth of cap/cash management were the cost.

We seem to be taking a more measured approach this time… but it does seem that FA’s (and draft picks) still want to come to Tampa. Do they think it’s different here now, too?

My money is on the “yes” response. Some see how we treat our players (ie the entire organization wanted Mike Evans to get that 1,000 yard bonus last season).

The Brady investment period is still paying dividends - but they’re well beyond that period - yet still operating at a high enough level that it’s captured the attention of league talent.

 

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Posted : May. 9, 2025 2:13 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

let me tell you a story about the 2020 Tampa Bay Buccaneers....

needed a QB, signed the GOAT

needed an elite TE, traded for Gronkowski

needed an RB, signed Lombardi Lenny

needed a WR, signed Antonio Brown

needed offensive line help, drafted future hall of famer Tristian Wirfs

needed a safety, drafted AWJ

 

i dont think you could have scripted a better offseason and look at that...resulted with a Super Bowl 

Yes, that was a great offseason where they filled needs through FA and drafted BPA in the draft, with Wirfs being #7 (drafted 13th) and Winfield being 44th (drafted 45th) on the Consensus Big Board. No reaches on those guys.

 

 

 
Posted : May. 9, 2025 2:14 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

let me tell you a story about the 2020 Tampa Bay Buccaneers....

needed a QB, signed the GOAT

needed an elite TE, traded for Gronkowski

needed an RB, signed Lombardi Lenny

needed a WR, signed Antonio Brown

needed offensive line help, drafted future hall of famer Tristian Wirfs

needed a safety, drafted AWJ

 

i dont think you could have scripted a better offseason and look at that...resulted with a Super Bowl 

Yes, that was a great offseason where they filled needs through FA and drafted BPA in the draft, with Wirfs being #7 (drafted 13th) and Winfield being 44th (drafted 45th) on the Consensus Big Board. No reaches on those guys.

 

 

That seemed like a pretty deep draft class - think there were 4 LOT’s that year.

Not all drafts are the same.

 

 
Posted : May. 9, 2025 8:36 pm
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