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Trivia question- Does anyone here know the primary coverage used by Lovie Smith and the Bears during his last couple years with the team?

we all know it was Tampa 2 you silly goose

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 12:05 pm
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So while talking about the cover 2 in 2012 when Lovie said "This is our defense,"  "We have a philosophy we believe in. Whether it's one or 32 teams using it, we don't care. To us, it's what we believe in."    Was he lying then or now???? Bunch of sheep blinded by thier love if the glory days. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-10-14/sports/ct-spt-1015-bears-cover-2-chicago--20121014_1_cover-2-new-defensive-coordinator-aikman-efficiency Bears fly Cover-2 flag with prideOne of only two teams relying heavily on defensive scheme, Lovie Smith's squad is thrivingOctober 14, 2012|By Dan Pompei, Chicago Tribune reporter NewAs trends go, the Cover-2's heyday has come and gone. Like trucker hats and Crocs, the Cover-2 is nowhere near as prevalent as it was in the mid-2000s.But as defensive schemes go, the Cover-2 still works just fine.Seven NFL teams once majored in the Cover-2, but now there are only two. Critics have said the Cover-2 is no longer as effective as it once was because of rules changes.Even Bucs defensive back Ronde Barber, who has made a career playing in the scheme, has questioned the Cover-2's viability moving forward.During an interview on Sirius XM radio Barber said, "Our theory was all these guys got to the ball and intimidation was a physical act. It was, 'Get guys to run through zones. We'll shoot our guns and separate them from the ball.' The rules will definitely affect it. ... I know we don't play Cover-2 now the way we used to."Last year there were 388 defensive personal fouls in the NFL. In 2008, there were only 250. That's an indication that Cover-2 defensive backs can't load up on receivers coming across the middle the way they once did.But the teams that still rely most on it are not backing down, and there is no evidence to suggest they should."This is our defense," Bears coach Lovie Smith said. "We have a philosophy we believe in. Whether it's one or 32 teams using it, we don't care. To us, it's what we believe in."The Bears defense entered the weekend ranked second in the Aikman Efficiency Ratings, third in points per game and sixth in yards per game. The Vikings, the other team that still runs a Cover-2-based scheme, ranked eighth in the Aikman Ratings, sixth in points per game and seventh in yards per game."We're at the top of the Aikman ratings just about every year we've been here," Smith said. "The things we think are important — take the ball away, third-down conversions, we've been doing that pretty much every year. So I know it's a good system."Vikings coach Leslie Frazier thought so much of the system that when he was looking for a new defensive coordinator this year, he prioritized finding a coach who was familiar with it."A lot of people were talking to me about why don't you look at the 3-4, or look at this, that," said Frazier, who hired former Colts defensive backs coach Alan Williams. "I knew we had success here in the past with this."But Frazier understands the recent fuss about the scheme."The new rules have changed things a bit," he said. "It's probably contributed to fewer teams running it. I don't know if you can major in it like you once could."Frazier said his team probably runs Cover-2 40-50 percent of the time. The Bears have run it more than that.Former Colts general manager Bill Polian, who won a Super Bowl with the scheme, said he would not shy away from the Cover-2 if he were to get another job as a general manager. He said coaches just have to convince defenders to lower their aiming point.Because defensive backs can't be as physical with receivers, the pass rush, which always has been the key to the scheme, is more important than ever."That Cover-2 scheme isn't that good when it's 'Five Mississippi' as opposed to 'Two and a half Mississippi,'" said former Bucs safety and current Fox commentator John Lynch. "The name of it comes from playing halves of the field. Fifty-three and a half yards (the width of a field) is a lot of ground for guys to cover if the rush isn't getting there. What the Bears have and Vikings have is consistent pressure up front. That's what makes that defense go for them."Most teams can't generate the kind of pressure with a four-man rush that the Bears and Vikings can. So playing a heavy dose of Cover-2 doesn't make sense for them.The fact that only two teams still wave the Cover-2 flag is an advantage for both."Offenses don't see it quite as much as they did, so it does create a little bit of a curveball effect," Frazier said.There are benefits, too, in sticking with one scheme. Longtime Bears defenders like Brian Urlacher, Lance Briggs and Charles Tillman have their Ph.D.s in the Cover-2 because they have been in it so many seasons."I don't think you can be good if you do this one year, that the next," Smith said. "You can't just say, 'What's the hot defense?' every year."The reason teams have gone away from the Cover-2 might have more to do with coaching migrations than rules changes. Some of the primary proponents of the Cover-2 no longer are running NFL defenses.Tony Dungy has graduated to broadcasting. So has Herm Edwards, though he moved away from the scheme later in his head coaching career.Monte Kiffin is at USC. Raheem Morris is a secondary coach with the Redskins. Ron Meeks, with the Chargers, also is coaching DBs instead of coordinating.Rod Marinelli and Smith each ran the scheme on different teams but now are together with the Bears.

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 1:24 pm
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Now the question becomes....will you all still call Lovie the savior when he puts Revis is zone every week?I'll bump this alllllll year long!!!!!!

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 1:45 pm
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Another staple that goes counter to the parrot's squawking...

The Bears run a ton of twists and stunts on their line, and the speed of guys like Melton, rookie Shea McClellin and Amobi Okoye has been evident in every game. Israel Idonije, Stephen Paea and even forgotten man Corey Wooten have made strong contributions.When you can rush with your front four and create consistent pressure without having to blitz, any defensive scheme will work. It's essential for the Bears.

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 1:59 pm
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Trivia question- Does anyone here know the primary coverage used by Lovie Smith and the Bears during his last couple years with the team?

we all know it was Tampa 2 you silly goose

"Frazier said his team probably runs Cover-2 40-50 percent of the time. The Bears have run it more than that."Might want to modify your post from blue to black....

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 2:46 pm
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Trivia question- Does anyone here know the primary coverage used by Lovie Smith and the Bears during his last couple years with the team?

we all know it was Tampa 2 you silly goose

"Frazier said his team probably runs Cover-2 40-50 percent of the time. The Bears have run it more than that."Might want to modify your post from blue to black....

Kid is a hippocrite. And he is one of those who clings to the back of others and flings feces. Plaster Saint exposed even more. Wow. There really is some truth to that. Sad.

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 4:06 pm
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Trivia question- Does anyone here know the primary coverage used by Lovie Smith and the Bears during his last couple years with the team?

we all know it was Tampa 2 you silly goose

"Frazier said his team probably runs Cover-2 40-50 percent of the time. The Bears have run it more than that."Might want to modify your post from blue to black....

Kid is a hippocrite. And he is one of those who clings to the back of others and flings feces. Plaster Saint exposed even more. Wow. There really is some truth to that. Sad.

How about you get off my nuts?

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 4:31 pm
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Why you mad tho?Get off my nuts first punk. Lol!You don't like it?  Don't do it.

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 4:32 pm
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Trivia question- Does anyone here know the primary coverage used by Lovie Smith and the Bears during his last couple years with the team?

we all know it was Tampa 2 you silly goose

"Frazier said his team probably runs Cover-2 40-50 percent of the time. The Bears have run it more than that."Might want to modify your post from blue to black....

Kid is a hippocrite. And he is one of those who clings to the back of others and flings feces. Plaster Saint exposed even more. Wow. There really is some truth to that. Sad.

How about you get off my nuts?

I usually agree with you and Delorious on most issues. But there is soooooo much evidence in support of Lovie using the cover 2 that I gotta call ya out...lolThe OP using all caps makes me laugh when his post is flat wrong, and now proven flat wrong. Just looking for an educated response.

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 4:40 pm
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Why you mad tho?Get off my nuts first punk. Lol!You don't like it?  Don't do it.

Not mad at all.. I'm flattered that you're trying to be my lapdog and everything but I don't need one Finky.When I need a bltch I'll give you shout ok? Cool

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 4:44 pm
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Haha!  Kid Hippocrite has spoken.  Manly.

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 4:46 pm
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Trivia question- Does anyone here know the primary coverage used by Lovie Smith and the Bears during his last couple years with the team?

we all know it was Tampa 2 you silly goose

"Frazier said his team probably runs Cover-2 40-50 percent of the time. The Bears have run it more than that."Might want to modify your post from blue to black....

Kid is a hippocrite. And he is one of those who clings to the back of others and flings feces. Plaster Saint exposed even more. Wow. There really is some truth to that. Sad.

How about you get off my nuts?

I usually agree with you and Delorious on most issues. But there is soooooo much evidence in support of Lovie using the cover 2 that I gotta call ya out...lolThe OP using all caps makes me laugh when his post is flat wrong, and now proven flat wrong. Just looking for an educated response.

But Lovie never had a cover corner like Revis either and we don't have the ideal players to run the cover 2. I'm sure we'll run it but good coaches adjust to the players so I'm sure we'll do that too.The cover 2 is outdated and even average QBs are torching that defense so I don't know how much Lovie will want to run it anyway.

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 4:50 pm
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With posters being on nuts... Cover Two sounds like a good idea.

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 4:56 pm
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Trivia question- Does anyone here know the primary coverage used by Lovie Smith and the Bears during his last couple years with the team?

we all know it was Tampa 2 you silly goose

"Frazier said his team probably runs Cover-2 40-50 percent of the time. The Bears have run it more than that."Might want to modify your post from blue to black....

Kid is a hippocrite. And he is one of those who clings to the back of others and flings feces. Plaster Saint exposed even more. Wow. There really is some truth to that. Sad.

How about you get off my nuts?

I usually agree with you and Delorious on most issues. But there is soooooo much evidence in support of Lovie using the cover 2 that I gotta call ya out...lolThe OP using all caps makes me laugh when his post is flat wrong, and now proven flat wrong. Just looking for an educated response.

But Lovie never had a cover corner like Revis either and we don't have the ideal players to run the cover 2. I'm sure we'll run it but good coaches adjust to the players so I'm sure we'll do that too.The cover 2 is outdated and even average QBs are torching that defense so I don't know how much Lovie will want to run it anyway.

To date Lovie has yet to vary his scheme, he hired a DC ....the only coach left in the NFL to stick to that scheme...I'm just not smelling this "Lovie is such a good coach he will stop what he has done for 20 years straight because he has Revis"

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 5:39 pm
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Trivia question- Does anyone here know the primary coverage used by Lovie Smith and the Bears during his last couple years with the team?

we all know it was Tampa 2 you silly goose

"Frazier said his team probably runs Cover-2 40-50 percent of the time. The Bears have run it more than that."Might want to modify your post from blue to black....

Kid is a hippocrite. And he is one of those who clings to the back of others and flings feces. Plaster Saint exposed even more. Wow. There really is some truth to that. Sad.

How about you get off my nuts?

I usually agree with you and Delorious on most issues. But there is soooooo much evidence in support of Lovie using the cover 2 that I gotta call ya out...lolThe OP using all caps makes me laugh when his post is flat wrong, and now proven flat wrong. Just looking for an educated response.

But Lovie never had a cover corner like Revis either and we don't have the ideal players to run the cover 2. I'm sure we'll run it but good coaches adjust to the players so I'm sure we'll do that too.The cover 2 is outdated and even average QBs are torching that defense so I don't know how much Lovie will want to run it anyway.

To date Lovie has yet to vary his scheme, he hired a DC ....the only coach left in the NFL to stick to that scheme...I'm just not smelling this "Lovie is such a good coach he will stop what he has done for 20 years straight because he has Revis"

We'll see I guess but I don't think we'll see the Tampa 2 strictly when guys like Brees and Ryan just laugh at it.Monte ran the cover 2 last year and his defense was historically bad. I'm sure Lovie took notice and will adjust accordingly.

 
Posted : Jan. 26, 2014 5:47 pm
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