Because that comment about Canales was SO CONTROVERSIAL (it was not lol), I will happily take refuge in the words of Canales himself . . . and, well, Jason Licht
"“Well, I have never called plays at the collegiate or NFL level,” Canales said. “I called plays way, way back. I was a head JV coach in 2004-05"
"“Anyway, that’s way back then. But yeah, that was a concern that came up in both interviews with Baltimore and with Todd [Bowles] and Jason [Licht]"
Oh and . . . . Bowles (describing Godwin's role in the Coen offense)
"Well, this offense will be multiple, but primarily when he [Godwin] succeeds in there in the slot, he's a hell of a blocker," Bucs head coach Todd Bowles said Thursday. "He's great in one-on-one coverage, underneath and down the field. He gives us a lot of options. And you know, with the third receiver, with Trey [Palmer] coming on last year, [Jalen] McMillan coming in this year - you really have to play as honest [and] Chris is kind of the key to that..."
Coen's multi-faceted approach transformed an average offensive line into a top-five unit. Scheme plays a crucial role in the success of an offensive line,
Grizzard will have everyone returning, plus the addition of our new first-round draft pick. There will be no excuses—barring an injury to Baker. This team will continue to be driven by our offense, which will either lead us to another division title or fall short.
I disagree one thing. I don't think Coen was more the beneficiary of an improved offensive line than he was the reason for it. The line spent the previous growing together and then added a first round pick and a key free agent to round it out. Certainly Coen made some great strides, but without the great O-line he wouldn't have been able to do what he did. He's got Hainsey penciled in as starting center in Jax. We'll see how that goes. Hainsey isn't terrible, but Coen will have to craft an O-line together instead of inheriting one of the best in the league.
I think the danger of Grizzard is that he'll try to compete with the ghost of Coen instead of competing with the team on the other side of the field. He's talked about pushing the ball downfield more. A bunch of fancy plays may get some highlights, but it's also a recipe for turnovers, and Mayfield has been known to do that. What he really needs to do is focus on what Bowles wants him to do, which is hang onto the ball and win games in the 4th quarter. Grizzard has a tough act to follow, and I worry that he'll try to hard to be a wizard and get away from playing complementary football.
Sorry I fixed a mistype here.
Coen's multi-faceted approach transformed an average offensive line into a top-five unit. Scheme plays a crucial role in the success of an offensive line,
Grizzard will have everyone returning, plus the addition of our new first-round draft pick. There will be no excuses—barring an injury to Baker. This team will continue to be driven by our offense, which will either lead us to another division title or fall short.
I disagree with one thing. I DO think Coen was more the beneficiary of an improved offensive line more than he was the reason for it. The line spent the previous growing together and then added a first round pick and a key free agent to round it out. Certainly Coen made some great strides, but without the great O-line he wouldn't have been able to do what he did. He's got Hainsey penciled in as starting center in Jax. We'll see how that goes. Hainsey isn't terrible, but Coen will have to craft an O-line together instead of inheriting one of the best in the league.
I think the danger of Grizzard is that he'll try to compete with the ghost of Coen instead of competing with the team on the other side of the field. He's talked about pushing the ball downfield more. A bunch of fancy plays may get some highlights, but it's also a recipe for turnovers, and Mayfield has been known to do that. What he really needs to do is focus on what Bowles wants him to do, which is hang onto the ball and win games in the 4th quarter. Grizzard has a tough act to follow, and I worry that he'll try to hard to be a wizard and get away from playing complementary football.
definitely not criticizing. He installed an offense that just copied the Seahawks.
Which is literally what every rookie OC does.
They'll obviously throw in their own wrinkles.
And, again, that's what Dave did.
Not sure how you can claim that Canales wasn't an OC.
He’s a smart guy, but he’s unproven as a play caller. He knows Coen’s system, which is not dissimilar to Seahawks basics that were introduced by Canales.
We’ll see if lightning can strike a 3rd time.
I’m standing in sunshine shoes regarding Grizz right now, anxiously awaiting pre-season.
I’m standing in sunshine shoes regarding Grizz right now, anxiously awaiting pre-season.
Good or bad, I won’t be overreacting to the preseason. There’s barely any game planning that goes on during the preseason. The regular season is when we’ll see if Grizzard is as clueless as Leftwich or competent like the two that followed Leftwich.
definitely not criticizing. He installed an offense that just copied the Seahawks.
Which is literally what every rookie OC does.
They'll obviously throw in their own wrinkles.
And, again, that's what Dave did.
Not sure how you can claim that Canales wasn't an OC.
Ask Chris Godwin lol
He’s a smart guy, but he’s unproven as a play caller. He knows Coen’s system, which is not dissimilar to Seahawks basics that were introduced by Canales.
We’ll see if lightning can strike a 3rd time.
I’m standing in sunshine shoes regarding Grizz right now, anxiously awaiting pre-season.
I think one minor plus for Grizz compared to Canales is that Grizz was apparently the architect of a lot of the 3rd down offense
Agreed. That got me to put these shoes on in the first place.
definitely not criticizing. He installed an offense that just copied the Seahawks.
Which is literally what every rookie OC does.
They'll obviously throw in their own wrinkles.
And, again, that's what Dave did.
Not sure how you can claim that Canales wasn't an OC.
Ask Chris Godwin lol
Okay.
“Chris, what part of my previous post isn’t factual.”
What he really needs to do is focus on what Bowles wants him to do
Umm...no.
Bowles will force him to play their best offensive weapon on a bum hammy, then continue to let him play after he clearly further injures it; causing said player to miss multiple games.
Or, leave his other premium offensive weapon in the same exact game, unnecessarily, while being down 24 points with 5 minutes left. Only to nuke his season and most likely part of this one.
Or, march his QB back into a game (that was already over) after getting injured. And giving a low-IQ excuse when questioned by the media.
Yeah, Grizz should definitely listen to the offensive savant we have at HC.
definitely not criticizing. He installed an offense that just copied the Seahawks.
Which is literally what every rookie OC does.
They'll obviously throw in their own wrinkles.
And, again, that's what Dave did.
Not sure how you can claim that Canales wasn't an OC.
Ask Chris Godwin lol
Okay.
“Chris, what part of my previous post isn’t factual.”
Well, I am happy to stay right here with Canales, Licht and Godwin and Coen (who put Godwin right back where he was best). You guys can stay with that Canales running game that saw RB1 White mostly running zones to nowhere . . over and over . . . oh wait, that was Mayfield sending him the wrong way.
Canale's primary contribution to the Bucs success began with restoring "old school" offensive sanity that some call "balance." A commitment to making easier choice for the QB . like Carroll did for Russell Wilson and Geno . .
PETE CARROLL:
""What we need in our offense is the same thing we've always needed whether it was Carson Palmer or Russell Wilson—we need a point guard," Carroll said last spring after the trade. "We need a guy that plays the game and moves the football around to the guys that are open and does all of the things that manages the game so that we can play great football. Because we're going to win with defense. We're going to win with how we play on special teams. We'll run the football to help the whole thing fit together. That's never changed. It's never been a philosophy that we needed to alter, other than to continue to grow and make it dynamic and present and current and all. And that's what we're looking for. We need to take care of the football."
DAVE CANALES
"“The thing we’re going to help Kyle to build on is to just be a point guard. Point guards don’t have to be the ones to score all the points. Just distribute. Play on time. Get the ball out of your hands. Life is better that way when you do that. You got these bears chasing you. If you don’t like bears chasing you, get rid of the ham. That’s the football.” said Canales"
definitely not criticizing. He installed an offense that just copied the Seahawks.
Which is literally what every rookie OC does.
They'll obviously throw in their own wrinkles.
And, again, that's what Dave did.
Not sure how you can claim that Canales wasn't an OC.
Ask Chris Godwin lol
Okay.
“Chris, what part of my previous post isn’t factual.”
Well, I am happy to stay right here with Canales, Licht and Godwin and Coen (who put Godwin right back where he was best). You guys can stay with that Canales running game that saw RB1 White mostly running zones to nowhere . . over and over . . . oh wait, that was Mayfield sending him the wrong way.
Canale's primary contribution to the Bucs success began with restoring "old school" offensive sanity that some call "balance." A commitment to making easier choice for the QB . like Carroll did for Russell Wilson and Geno . .
PETE CARROLL:
""What we need in our offense is the same thing we've always needed whether it was Carson Palmer or Russell Wilson—we need a point guard," Carroll said last spring after the trade. "We need a guy that plays the game and moves the football around to the guys that are open and does all of the things that manages the game so that we can play great football. Because we're going to win with defense. We're going to win with how we play on special teams. We'll run the football to help the whole thing fit together. That's never changed. It's never been a philosophy that we needed to alter, other than to continue to grow and make it dynamic and present and current and all. And that's what we're looking for. We need to take care of the football."
DAVE CANALES
"“The thing we’re going to help Kyle to build on is to just be a point guard. Point guards don’t have to be the ones to score all the points. Just distribute. Play on time. Get the ball out of your hands. Life is better that way when you do that. You got these bears chasing you. If you don’t like bears chasing you, get rid of the ham. That’s the football.” said Canales"
Per your typical and predictable long winded rant, which is consistently devoid of any original thought and simply pasting quotes from coaches; you essentially acknowledged that Canales was in fact an offensive coordinator.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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