It tells us if Barkley was given an 11th carry (which he should have been given more carries with those WR's out) he may break another 60 yarder and he'll then have a 13.1 YPC. Or he may not. That's how averages work
yikes
Uh, I don't think your use of the word 'hypothetical' is accurate.
Please, explain "hypothetical" to me. Which of these is the hypothetical outcome and which of these is the actual outcome of Saquan Barkley's week 4 performance?
Option A - 10 carries for 84 yards
Option B - 9 carries for 25 yards
That was easy one, but this one may be more difficult for you. Are you hypothetically bowing out of this discussion or actually bowing out of this discussion? It's hard to tell, because you've now said that you are bowing out twice - yet you can't stop yourself from posting.
Yeah, that's my bad. I let you keep dragging me back into the conversation, so that's on me.
Look, you obviously don't understand trimmed/idealized means, and/or stats/probability math. But most people understand that you can't just make up data, so the idea of just assuming that the 11th carry would result in a 60-yard gain isn't just mathematically highly unlikely/improbable, it's completely outside the rules of probability mathematics.
So, one last time, it is a common practice to set aside an outlier piece of data, in a small dataset, such as an individual football game, for the purpose of more accurately describing an event/series of events mathematically. The common term for such outliers is "fluke." Perhaps you've heard of it. And not for nothing, but it works beautifully here in this instance. By setting aside the 59-yd rush, the average rush by Saquon is about 3 yds (2.7, iirc), which sits almost dead center of all of the results of his ACTUAL runs.
Meanwhile, "8.4yds/carry," is more than 5 FEET from the nearest actual run by Barkley and more than 50 yards removed from his outlier 59 yard rush, so consequently doesn't even loosely describe any rush by Barkley in that game. To be more clear for you, Barkley never runs for anything close to 8.4 yards in any rush during that game. So, tell me, exactly what good is that value to us? Because I can't find anything mathematically useful about it.
But 2.7yds/carry is useful information, obviously.
See how that works? Hope that helps. If you have any other questions, feel free to google them, because this is pretty basic HS math.
This is getting to be pretty deep stuff, both arguments make my brain hurt… the reality for me was what I saw on the field - and why I initially posted that aside from the one 59 yarder - we mostly held Saquan in check.
Unfortunately, Atlanta didn’t need much of a run game.
But most people understand that you can't just make up data, so the idea of just assuming that the 11th carry would result in a 60-yard gain isn't just mathematically highly unlikely/improbable, it's completely outside the rules of probability mathematics.
Some people say that’s how averages work!
:-)
To be more clear for you, Barkley never runs for anything close to 8.4 yards in any rush during that game.
Lolz, thanks Pythagoras.
But 2.7yds/carry is useful information, obviously.
Obviously…
Yeah, that's my bad. I let you keep dragging me back into the conversation, so that's on me.
Of course it is. Nobody made you declare that you would “bow out” multiple times. But like the other loon on this board, you can’t control yourself and keep coming back to make awful, inapplicable points - outside of the “Saquan never actually ran for 8.4 yards” thingy. You really nailed that one, champ.
Even when you inexplicably respond to this post, this actually will be my last post to you in this ridiculous debate. I’ll show you how it’s done, grasshopper.
This is getting to be pretty deep stuff, both arguments make my brain hurt… the reality for me was what I saw on the field - and why I initially posted that aside from the one 59 yarder - we mostly held Saquan in check.
Unfortunately, Atlanta didn’t need much of a run game.
I'm pretty good at math, but no Pythagoras. White Tiger said it best.
I’m sure that will go over well…
Just hoping this ‘mini-buy’ helps get some of our stars back on the field…that could turn it.
