Its going pretty well, Indont have to have perfect leaders. Just law abiding ones that don’t shower with their teenage daughter, or coerce another country to stop an investigation into his son sitting in the board of directors of an energy company and making millions with no knowledge of how energy works, or that communist Chinese real estate company who bribed that same son for access to the White House.I wonder if there are Democrat racists?
Are you capable of reading? I already said this exists. I'm not a fool. Democrats are still politicians and I'm sure plenty of liberal are absolutely virtue signaling bullshitters who complain online but do nothing in real life.
That's where we are different... I don't see "my side" as perfect..it's not a house of cards built on perpetual lies that the fearless leader is perfect, without sin, can do no wrong, never lies, and has all the answers.
Yeah, I see what you mean. It’s probably easier to just swallow the “conservative Christian’s are racists” propaganda, cuz the other option is so much worse.
Its why I have a jumbo-sized popcorn stash.
I'm debating with all the facts on my side
Except, of course, when you aren’t. This was one of those times.
Pointing out 2 swing states doesn't make me feel less smug. I feel more smug from this.
You really shouldn’t. Virginia isn’t a swing state, as it’s voted Democrat over the last five presidential elections. Yet another fact you don’t have on your side. They seem to be piling up. I’m fine with smugness, obviously, but it helps if you’re correct while being smug. That was your error.
It would do you some good to occasionally come out from your bubble and get some fresh air. And lolz @ “technicality.”
It’s not racist to want 20 million illegals returned to their country.
Nobody wants illegal immigrants. Lol... You don't have a monopoly on that thought.
The solution is not to hire a bunch of half wits to cosplay as authority behind masks, unmarked vehicles, and racial profiling.
Do you think ICE is popular? Lmfao...
Most of Trump's policies are unpopular. He's going to get destroyed in the midterms.
He's a grifter so he sold that bill of goods, people fell for it a second time, the Dems ran an incompetent campaign, and now we have all the results of his shitty policies and failed promises.
I'm debating with all the facts on my side
Except, of course, when you aren’t. This was one of those times.
Pointing out 2 swing states doesn't make me feel less smug. I feel more smug from this.
You really shouldn’t. Virginia isn’t a swing state, as it’s voted Democrat over the last five presidential elections. Yet another fact you don’t have on your side. They seem to be piling up. I’m fine with smugness, obviously, but it helps if you’re correct while being smug. That was your error.
It would do you some good to occasionally come out from your bubble and get some fresh air. And lolz @ “technicality.”
Virginia the only Confederate state Trump hasn't won once in all three bids.
Whoopidy do. Does that make the South not conservative?
Lmfao... I love your smugness here. We can be smug together.
You did it. You proved the South is a liberal bastion of hope.
What's everyone's view on the growth in voters? I am trying to make sense of it. Not suggesting anything but what do you think caused this.
2008 - Obama - 69 million votes, McCain 60 million votes
2012 - Obama - 66 million votes, Romney, 61 million votes
2016 - Clinton 66 million votes, Trump 63 million votes
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2020 - Biden 81 million votes, Trump 74 million votes
2024 - Harris 75 million votes, Trump 77 million votes
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26 million more voters in 2020 election than the 2016 election. Just seems odd when the prior 3 elections were all around the same vicinity. Is it the mail in voting? 3 million less voters in 2024 then 2020.
What's everyone's view on the growth in voters? I am trying to make sense of it. Not suggesting anything but what do you think caused this.
2008 - Obama - 69 million votes, McCain 60 million votes
2012 - Obama - 66 million votes, Romney, 61 million votes
2016 - Clinton 66 million votes, Trump 63 million votes
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2020 - Biden 81 million votes, Trump 74 million votes
2024 - Harris 75 million votes, Trump 77 million votes
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26 million more voters in 2020 election than the 2016 election. Just seems odd when the prior 3 elections were all around the same vicinity. Is it the mail in voting? 3 million less voters in 2024 then 2020.
like almost everything in life it depends on the width of your lens.
you compared to the years immediately prior so you missed the reason which is POLARIZATION. If you widen the lens you will see the same kind of turnout uptick in the 60s, for example.
But even if you don't look that far back you can see it in last two elections. In 2020 for example Biden turned out first "time voters" and in 2024 Trump did. In both cases those voters and others turn out in historically high numbers because they are trying to "save" the country from the prior party. 2020 voters are turning out to get rid of Trump. 2024 voters to get rid of the Biden economy.
You can see that phenomenon play out in the two recent gubernatorial races because the 2024 non traditional Trump voters and independents all went the other way. In other words, they voted for economic change in 2024 that isn't happening and so the other stuff turns them away. Both a vote AGAINST chaos, vitriol etc and a vote for doing something about grocery prices (besides removing the tariffs lol)
What's everyone's view on the growth in voters? I am trying to make sense of it. Not suggesting anything but what do you think caused this.
2008 - Obama - 69 million votes, McCain 60 million votes
2012 - Obama - 66 million votes, Romney, 61 million votes
2016 - Clinton 66 million votes, Trump 63 million votes
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2020 - Biden 81 million votes, Trump 74 million votes
2024 - Harris 75 million votes, Trump 77 million votes
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26 million more voters in 2020 election than the 2016 election. Just seems odd when the prior 3 elections were all around the same vicinity. Is it the mail in voting? 3 million less voters in 2024 then 2020.
I'd have to look at the trend line. Is it within the normal growth curve? I'd wager it is... Combine that with politics being ubiquitous and more young people voting you'll have more activism.
Trump won the popular vote and got a record 77m (for Republicans) because of a referendum on a number of things where the Dems fell out of touch, didn't primary, etc. Dems actually lost this race because of Israel Palestine, messaging, and being out of touch.
Once there was an assassination on Trump it was all but over but Biden's clear drop in mental acuity added to that referedum.
That's the same referendum that happened in 2020... Folks voting for Biden not because they loved Biden but because they were fed up with Trump.
Biden was a safe religious what male choice but his mental decline and last minute switch the Harris + Trump owning the narrative, frequenting the podcasts, and having the symbolic photo with the assassination attempt gave him all the momentum.
Plus the nature of the pendulum swinging... Which you will see again in the midterms
What's everyone's view on the growth in voters? I am trying to make sense of it. Not suggesting anything but what do you think caused this.
2008 - Obama - 69 million votes, McCain 60 million votes
2012 - Obama - 66 million votes, Romney, 61 million votes
2016 - Clinton 66 million votes, Trump 63 million votes
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2020 - Biden 81 million votes, Trump 74 million votes
2024 - Harris 75 million votes, Trump 77 million votes
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26 million more voters in 2020 election than the 2016 election. Just seems odd when the prior 3 elections were all around the same vicinity. Is it the mail in voting? 3 million less voters in 2024 then 2020.
like almost everything in life it depends on the width of your lens.
you compared to the years immediately prior so you missed the reason which is POLARIZATION. If you widen the lens you will see the same kind of turnout uptick in the 60s, for example.
But even if you don't look that far back you can see it in last two elections. In 2020 for example Biden turned out first "time voters" and in 2024 Trump did. In both cases those voters and others turn out in historically high numbers because they are trying to "save" the country from the prior party. 2020 voters are turning out to get rid of Trump. 2024 voters to get rid of the Biden economy.
You can see that phenomenon play out in the two recent gubernatorial races because the 2024 non traditional Trump voters and independents all went the other way. In other words, they voted for economic change in 2024 that isn't happening and so the other stuff turns them away. Both a vote AGAINST chaos, vitriol etc and a vote for doing something about grocery prices (besides removing the tariffs lol)
From the 60s what was that? Show the example of the polarizing results like the one we saw in 2020. It's not actually that impossible that with the mail in ballots from that covid year that it explains the biggest width we've seen. But as you said the 60s had something similar. What was that?
He's right do you publicly meet these people
Are you running into a lot of trans people?
You losing a lot of work to illegal immigrants?
You unable to buy a house because of illegal immigrants?
Are windmills giving you cancer?
Are you being forced to own an electric car?
Have you personal been attacked by a Jihad terrorist?
...
My mom is a full blown Trumper racist. She calls the cops on her Hispanic neighbors and their kids all the time just for being outside. She calls Obama the n-word all the time. My dad is also a Trumper but not nearly as over the top as my mom... But he does tell me I'm going to hell for not believing in Christ. About half of my family falls within these two version of conservative... My dad and I get along and just avoid politics and religion now. My mom, I cannot even take her in public. She has been radicalized since she retired because she just sits around and watches Fox news and looks out her blinds and those down brown people ruining this county.
So am I personally affected by racism? I'm a white male... I'll be fine. ICE isn't going to racially profile me. But the MAGA movement and the radicalization has very much affected me... Like many families, we are now fully divided and all the racism that was in the closet is out in the open. I have other examples of friends and family doing the same but I won't bore you.
Sucks that you have family that is like that. I'm honestly not saying that people don't have racism happen to them. I don't think it's as big as an issue as the left says it is. They turned it into a political theater. Everyone deals with something from humans that's discrimination we just again like to generalize because it's easier.
If we do want to talk racism which the left really thinks they stand on a high leg here fails to understand how their policies are actually more racist than they'll ever understand. Enabling poor behavior with incentive creates a world where accountability is not as existent as it could be and it would be way more helpful to a group of people who you all say is oppressed.
However you see do see plenty of people see through all different challenges not just the way they look. People of all races deal with this it's not exclusive. Yet the party of the people says it is and this is wrong. Because again not everyone is the same and a lot of successful people at all races and genders in this country and has for years. Maybe the issue is the limitations we put on people with not holding people accountable and instead painting a constant victim status that does nothing for anyone but the people who cry about the oppression the most and are supposed to help people don't fix anything. Same old shit every time. Where does all that money go?? They make the most money out of all of it. It should piss people off more than it does but again were docile and go with the herd humans. Human nature people fail to understand this key thing.
We always have the same bs talked about because it's the victim status that keeps the train and money running for these politicians and they use human sympathy to take advantage of it. It's actually disgusting and people wear these hats of sympathy when it's actually not helping and if you think about it maybe is more racist. I mean what's more racist in my opinion than acting like black people are not capable of showing an id so let's forget about the id?....
He's right do you publicly meet these people
Are you running into a lot of trans people?
You losing a lot of work to illegal immigrants?
You unable to buy a house because of illegal immigrants?
Are windmills giving you cancer?
Are you being forced to own an electric car?
Have you personal been attacked by a Jihad terrorist?
...
My mom is a full blown Trumper racist. She calls the cops on her Hispanic neighbors and their kids all the time just for being outside. She calls Obama the n-word all the time. My dad is also a Trumper but not nearly as over the top as my mom... But he does tell me I'm going to hell for not believing in Christ. About half of my family falls within these two version of conservative... My dad and I get along and just avoid politics and religion now. My mom, I cannot even take her in public. She has been radicalized since she retired because she just sits around and watches Fox news and looks out her blinds and those down brown people ruining this county.
So am I personally affected by racism? I'm a white male... I'll be fine. ICE isn't going to racially profile me. But the MAGA movement and the radicalization has very much affected me... Like many families, we are now fully divided and all the racism that was in the closet is out in the open. I have other examples of friends and family doing the same but I won't bore you.
Sucks that you have family that is like that. I'm honestly not saying that people don't have racism happen to them. I don't think it's as big as an issue as the left says it is. They turned it into a political theater. Everyone deals with something from humans that's discrimination we just again like to generalize because it's easier.
If we do want to talk racism which the left really thinks they stand on a high leg here fails to understand how their policies are actually more racist than they'll ever understand. Enabling poor behavior with incentive creates a world where accountability is not as existent as it could be and it would be way more helpful to a group of people who you all say is oppressed.
However you see do see plenty of people see through all different challenges not just the way they look. People of all races deal with this it's not exclusive. Yet the party of the people says it is and this is wrong. Because again not everyone is the same and a lot of successful people at all races and genders in this country and has for years. Maybe the issue is the limitations we put on people with not holding people accountable and instead painting a constant victim status that does nothing for anyone but the people who cry about the oppression the most and are supposed to help people don't fix anything. Same old shit every time. Where does all that money go?? They make the most money out of all of it. It should piss people off more than it does but again were docile and go with the herd humans. Human nature people fail to understand this key thing.
We always have the same bs talked about because it's the victim status that keeps the train and money running for these politicians and they use human sympathy to take advantage of it. It's actually disgusting and people wear these hats of sympathy when it's actually not helping and if you think about it maybe is more racist. I mean what's more racist in my opinion than acting like black people are not capable of showing an id so let's forget about the id?....
I can respect your thoughts here. And I just again want to be clear that I do not think the left has all the answers and is morally right as much as it thinks it is...much of the complaints with the left I can totally see and often I have friends say shit where I'm like "dude this is why the right gets to dunk on us when you can't condemn Hamas".
All fair points you've made and while I don't agree with all of it I tip my hat for the dialogue.
it’s like assuming all men that vote democrat are gay. No, sure it’s a portion of democrat male voters, but not all which often gets insinuated
All of the gay Republicans just get elected.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRhdiobkciQ/?igsh=MWs5OGk0b3Uwd2NueA==
Well I guess some are just podcasters
(It's so much more fun being on this end of the conspiracy stuff).
I get to just keep throwing it all out and if it's fake well...
Whoopsy
Or
Yeah and where do you get your news? CNN?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DP2oVDnCNPw/?igsh=MTdiMXVqZWJjYmg3NA==
You can find countless examples of this type of behavior.
This is one anecdotal example but the thing about it... It's the platform of maga that has empowered him to think he can drop 10 n words and brandish a loaded gun on someone peacefully protesting.
Racism existed before maga and it will exist long after Don has his next stroke, but the platform has never been stronger for racist to come out and speak without fear of repercussions. They see ICE do it so why wouldn't they do it?
You don't get rid of racism by ignoring it and electing a bigot and let ICE racially profile people... It will only make it worse.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQajV38AKor/?igsh=MTNicG5hdmt4bTZqYw==
This is white tiger in the middle when I call him a fake Christian and he says I'm bigoted.
Ok string posts done. I made VC proud
it’s like assuming all men that vote democrat are gay. No, sure it’s a portion of democrat male voters, but not all which often gets insinuated
All of the gay Republicans just get elected.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRhdiobkciQ/?igsh=MWs5OGk0b3Uwd2NueA==
Well I guess some are just podcasters
(It's so much more fun being on this end of the conspiracy stuff).
I get to just keep throwing it all out and if it's fake well...
Whoopsy
Or
Yeah and where do you get your news? CNN?
if we can agree that more racist people are on the right, certainly we can agree that more feminine males are on the left?
again, not all inclusive, as I’m not racist on the right and don’t want to assume but would suggest your not feminine on the left.
