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Posted by: @white-tiger

So, it seems like the Bucs front office has positioned this team to have a special season, too 

Agreed. 

No more excuses. 

Team needs to make a conference championship game appearance (or more). 

 
Posted : Jun. 14, 2025 8:09 am
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Posted by: @white-tiger

So, it seems like the Bucs front office has positioned this team to have a special season

Agreed and with several big questions looming.  Extend Bowles/Fire Bowles? Evens contract or retire? Mayfield contract?  

The front office is doing what it should, which is putting everyone in a position to succeed while also building behind everyone eg Egbuka

This was in the news today about Mayfield and his contract:

"The three-year contract that Mayfield signed with the Bucs last offseason pays him $33.3 million per year. He has $30 million coming this season and $40 million in 2026, though none of the 2026 money is guaranteed. The deal is certainly nothing to sneeze at, but consider that the top of the QB market right now is $55 to $60 million per year. Consider also that no quarterback in the NFL has thrown more touchdown passes over the past two regular seasons than Mayfield (69)."

Mayfield was once on a one year, $4 million contract and "should have been beaten out by Trask."  He's come a LONG way and has had great timing given the way the QB market is going.  Remember he was going to handicap the Bucs with a $40 million contract, turned out to be $33ish . .  now he's likely to make $60 if he can stay on his current path.

Licht/Bowles have done a very good job betting on some players/coaches, from Mayfield's one year deal, to two OCs turned head coaches, a 4th rounder for Irving, to hopefully Reddick this season. And along the way they have won when mamny teams would be in rebuild time, all the while building the kind of culture that has a player like Godwin JR choosing to stay FOR LESS.

 

Pretty impressive.  Still have to deliver this season. Pretty pivotal season.

 
Posted : Jun. 14, 2025 10:02 am
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speaking of culture . . daily does of player speak about the HC

“He’s a great coach, a great father figure as well,” Kancey said. “He’s a guy you want to run through a wall for. And I know a lot of people say that, but I really mean it. He’s a players’ coach. If you have something to say, or you see something on the field, he will hear you out. He’s creative when it comes to these blitzes and these stunts, and it’s fun. It’s fun to have him as a coach and go out there and execute those plays for him.”

 
Posted : Jun. 14, 2025 10:04 am
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speaking of culture . . daily does of player speak about the HC

“He’s a great coach, a great father figure as well,” Kancey said. “He’s a guy you want to run through a wall for. And I know a lot of people say that, but I really mean it. He’s a players’ coach. If you have something to say, or you see something on the field, he will hear you out. He’s creative when it comes to these blitzes and these stunts, and it’s fun. It’s fun to have him as a coach and go out there and execute those plays for him.”

It's great the players like him and that's certainly been his strength in keeping he team together and not collapsing with losing streaks.

But we've debated this to death... He needs to perform better in 2 key areas this season:

Get off the field more consistently (preferably via 3 and outs).

Better clock management and situational football. 

 

 
Posted : Jun. 14, 2025 1:15 pm
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Yes its still a results-oriented job so this is a season that could end his tenure or result in an extension, both depending on the results on the field.

 
Posted : Jun. 14, 2025 2:38 pm
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Bowles has been a good coach for us.  We need to be more dialed in at times but that is every coach in the league.  McVay/Reid/Payton/Tomlin included. 

 
Posted : Jun. 14, 2025 4:21 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

speaking of culture . . daily does of player speak about the HC

“He’s a great coach, a great father figure as well,” Kancey said. “He’s a guy you want to run through a wall for. And I know a lot of people say that, but I really mean it. He’s a players’ coach. If you have something to say, or you see something on the field, he will hear you out. He’s creative when it comes to these blitzes and these stunts, and it’s fun. It’s fun to have him as a coach and go out there and execute those plays for him.”

It's great the players like him and that's certainly been his strength in keeping he team together and not collapsing with losing streaks.

But we've debated this to death... He needs to perform better in 2 key areas this season:

Get off the field more consistently (preferably via 3 and outs).

Better clock management and situational football. 

 

The offense was a disaster situationally. 

 

 
Posted : Jun. 14, 2025 5:19 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

speaking of culture . . daily does of player speak about the HC

“He’s a great coach, a great father figure as well,” Kancey said. “He’s a guy you want to run through a wall for. And I know a lot of people say that, but I really mean it. He’s a players’ coach. If you have something to say, or you see something on the field, he will hear you out. He’s creative when it comes to these blitzes and these stunts, and it’s fun. It’s fun to have him as a coach and go out there and execute those plays for him.”

It's great the players like him and that's certainly been his strength in keeping he team together and not collapsing with losing streaks.

But we've debated this to death... He needs to perform better in 2 key areas this season:

Get off the field more consistently (preferably via 3 and outs).

Better clock management and situational football. 

 

The offense was a disaster situationally. 

 

So was the defense. 

But, let's give you some time to cherry pick some more bullshit stats. You've done plenty for Tucker. 

Take your time, ma'am.

 

 
Posted : Jun. 14, 2025 6:28 pm
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speaking of culture . . daily does of player speak about the HC

“He’s a great coach, a great father figure as well,” Kancey said. “He’s a guy you want to run through a wall for. And I know a lot of people say that, but I really mean it. He’s a players’ coach. If you have something to say, or you see something on the field, he will hear you out. He’s creative when it comes to these blitzes and these stunts, and it’s fun. It’s fun to have him as a coach and go out there and execute those plays for him.”

It's great the players like him and that's certainly been his strength in keeping he team together and not collapsing with losing streaks.

But we've debated this to death... He needs to perform better in 2 key areas this season:

Get off the field more consistently (preferably via 3 and outs).

Better clock management and situational football. 

 

The offense was a disaster situationally. 

 

So was the defense. 

But, let's give you some time to cherry pick some more bullshit stats. You've done plenty for Tucker. 

Take your time, ma'am.

 

Defense could have better in certain spots but I think Bowles just didn't have the players. Dennis coming back, signing Reddick, drafting Morrison and Parrish. Hopefully it's enough. Think Asante Samuel Jr would put it over the top.

Now on to the "bullshit". 

I'd like you, or anyone else,  to comment on these without mentioning the defense. 

1. @ Lions- 11 plays, 27 yards in the 4th qtr. 

2. @Falcons- Bucky fumble. Then 3 plays, -14 yards and getting knocked out of FG after being bailed out. 

3. vs 49ers- 1st and goal down 3 inside a minute. 2 White runs for 0 yards. 

4. @Panthers- Sacked out of FG range in OT on 2nd and 6.

5. @Cowboys- White fumble. 

6. vs Commanders- Fumbled jet sweep, the same play that went for -6 the week before. Botched plays on 2nd and 1 and 3rd and 1 on last drive. 

 

 

 
Posted : Jun. 15, 2025 9:40 am
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vs 49ers- 1st and goal down 3 inside a minute. 2 White runs for 0 yards. 

Most people think of the 2021 offense as spectacular (as it should have been with that lineup).  I think the 2024 offense is better in the RZ (% and TDs) in part because it had a viable running game (as compared to 2021) BUT that one is classic JC, for so many reasons. 

Here a a few:

1. playing with no receivers

2. on the drive you reference, WHITE makes several BIG plays including a 4th and 7 PASS completion, a 6 yard run and  a 19 yard completion to get us into FG range (those pass completions have to sting given your outsized love for "Emmitt Smith")

3. White then runs for 3

white then runs for -3  . . . you combine these I guess, even though the 3 yard run, down 3 in FG range makes the run on 2nd and 5 more likely . . especially with no WRs (the next pass is to Jarrett?

4. the DEFENSE gives up the game losing FG (which is why, as usual, you had to narrow your post by saying "dont mention the defense" lol)

One reason the defense gives up a drive for a FG? Two of the passes are defended by Funderberk

 

 
Posted : Jun. 15, 2025 11:15 am
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vs 49ers- 1st and goal down 3 inside a minute. 2 White runs for 0 yards. 

Most people think of the 2021 offense as spectacular (as it should have been with that lineup).  I think the 2024 offense is better in the RZ (% and TDs) in part because it had a viable running game (as compared to 2021) BUT that one is classic JC, for so many reasons. 

Here a a few:

1. playing with no receivers

2. on the drive you reference, WHITE makes several BIG plays including a 4th and 7 PASS completion, a 6 yard run and  a 19 yard completion to get us into FG range (those pass completions have to sting given your outsized love for "Emmitt Smith")

3. White then runs for 3

white then runs for -3  . . . you combine these I guess, even though the 3 yard run, down 3 in FG range makes the run on 2nd and 5 more likely . . especially with no WRs (the next pass is to Jarrett?

4. the DEFENSE gives up the game losing FG (which is why, as usual, you had to narrow your post by saying "dont mention the defense" lol)

One reason the defense gives up a drive for a FG? Two of the passes are defended by Funderberk

 

I don't mind runs there. But they can't be with White. They can't .

 

 

 
Posted : Jun. 15, 2025 11:31 am
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speaking of culture . . daily does of player speak about the HC

“He’s a great coach, a great father figure as well,” Kancey said. “He’s a guy you want to run through a wall for. And I know a lot of people say that, but I really mean it. He’s a players’ coach. If you have something to say, or you see something on the field, he will hear you out. He’s creative when it comes to these blitzes and these stunts, and it’s fun. It’s fun to have him as a coach and go out there and execute those plays for him.”

Let's hope the rest of the team feels the same way.

Everyone needs to improve and be on the same page to make this a special season for the Bucs.

 

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Posted : Jun. 15, 2025 12:05 pm
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vs 49ers- 1st and goal down 3 inside a minute. 2 White runs for 0 yards. 

Most people think of the 2021 offense as spectacular (as it should have been with that lineup).  I think the 2024 offense is better in the RZ (% and TDs) in part because it had a viable running game (as compared to 2021) BUT that one is classic JC, for so many reasons. 

Here a a few:

1. playing with no receivers

2. on the drive you reference, WHITE makes several BIG plays including a 4th and 7 PASS completion, a 6 yard run and  a 19 yard completion to get us into FG range (those pass completions have to sting given your outsized love for "Emmitt Smith")

3. White then runs for 3

white then runs for -3  . . . you combine these I guess, even though the 3 yard run, down 3 in FG range makes the run on 2nd and 5 more likely . . especially with no WRs (the next pass is to Jarrett?

4. the DEFENSE gives up the game losing FG (which is why, as usual, you had to narrow your post by saying "dont mention the defense" lol)

One reason the defense gives up a drive for a FG? Two of the passes are defended by Funderberk

 

I don't mind runs there. But they can't be with White. They can't .

 

 

 

Well, couple potential problems there

 

White is the reason they are down there to start with.  Definitely Could've been Irving too. I get that, but White is making plays all the way down, including the 3 yard run.  You grouped that run and the next together to form a ZERO (lol).  Thats always your giveaway, its the code to your deception.  In this case, you group those together BECAUSE:

"On second down, rookie center Graham Barton was spun like a top and White was dropped for a 3-yard loss."

 

Your argument is the coaching ("situational football), but sometimes it's just the failed EXECUTION.

 

 
Posted : Jun. 15, 2025 12:25 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

just didn't have the players.

Yet you quote games with Godwin and Evans out and playing with practice squad players.

 
Posted : Jun. 15, 2025 12:39 pm
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vs 49ers- 1st and goal down 3 inside a minute. 2 White runs for 0 yards. 

Most people think of the 2021 offense as spectacular (as it should have been with that lineup).  I think the 2024 offense is better in the RZ (% and TDs) in part because it had a viable running game (as compared to 2021) BUT that one is classic JC, for so many reasons. 

Here a a few:

1. playing with no receivers

2. on the drive you reference, WHITE makes several BIG plays including a 4th and 7 PASS completion, a 6 yard run and  a 19 yard completion to get us into FG range (those pass completions have to sting given your outsized love for "Emmitt Smith")

3. White then runs for 3

white then runs for -3  . . . you combine these I guess, even though the 3 yard run, down 3 in FG range makes the run on 2nd and 5 more likely . . especially with no WRs (the next pass is to Jarrett?

4. the DEFENSE gives up the game losing FG (which is why, as usual, you had to narrow your post by saying "dont mention the defense" lol)

One reason the defense gives up a drive for a FG? Two of the passes are defended by Funderberk

 

I don't mind runs there. But they can't be with White. They can't .

 

 

 

Well, couple potential problems there

 

White is the reason they are down there to start with.  Definitely Could've been Irving too. I get that, but White is making plays all the way down, including the 3 yard run.  You grouped that run and the next together to form a ZERO (lol).  Thats always your giveaway, its the code to your deception.  In this case, you group those together BECAUSE:

"On second down, rookie center Graham Barton was spun like a top and White was dropped for a 3-yard loss."

 

Your argument is the coaching ("situational football), but sometimes it's just the failed EXECUTION.

 

 

Rachaad White apologists struggling with 3-3 = 0

 

 
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