1) Trade down to Jacksonville - pick 24. The Bucs could move up to the 3rd round and throw back a 5th rounder to Jax. This would give the Bucs two third round picks at the price of moving down 5 spots.
2) Trade down to Philly - pick 30. The Bucs could pick up Philly's late 2nd Round pick 62. They might have to toss them a 5th rounder. That's a serious move down of 11, but getting an extra second round pick is tempting. Philly is a deep team and perhaps would like the opportunity to move up with the second of their two first rounders.
3) Trade up with Detroit - pick 18. I don't see the Bucs wanting to give up any Day 2 pick, but they could move up one at the cost of moving down five in the 2nd round from pick 50 to 55. Detroit has a lot of the same needs as the Bucs, so if Licht has his eyes on somebody it could be worth it to move ahead of the Lions.
Those three trade ideas make the most sense for the Bucs when looking at moving in the 1st Round.
Sure but a small trade down will do nothing but net Day 3 picks. We don't need more Scotty Millers, special teamers. and depth players. You do need those guys, but what we really need are starters. That would be the point of moving down. To get a future starting safety or TE or OG. That would be the point, not to pick up a KJ Britt type of player. So you have to give up something to get that. You are definitely downgrading that pick by going down 5 to 10 spots, but IMO it would be worth it in the scenarios I presented.Always trade down. More day 1, day 2 picks.
Trade up to get one of the top OT's in the draft.
and give up what?Trade up to get one of the top OT's in the draft.
The Bucs 19th pick and LB White.and give up what?Trade up to get one of the top OT's in the draft.
@catherder - I agree. There’s a time to trade down, but we’ve done that the last few years. There’s a reason most probowlers are selected in the first round, and even more concentrated in the top 20, that’s because that’s where the best talent is.
I'd rather just take BPA with the picks we have and live with the results.
Unless a king's ransom is offered to us...
Or it's a Wirfs like trade up (one or two spots)
@badtimes if our front office had a certain player that they had to have, sure. But is there much difference in the top 5 guys? Is moving up a couple spots the best return for white? Maybe. I’d rather try to get a full pick for white and see who falls to 19. But if licht zeroed in on a must have then go for it. Kinda pigeonholes us into taking a ILB rd 2.
White for a 2nd or 3rd... otherwise we keep him for the year
Trade White to the Steelers for pick #49. Steelers gave up on Devin Bush and need a ILB. Bucs would have consecutive 2nd round picks at #49 and #50.
Then trade down with the Bills for /#27, #92 and #130 for the Bucs #19. The Bucs would have picks 27, 49, 50. 82, 91, 130, ,153, 175, 179, 181, 196 and 252... 12 picks!
Trading up for wirfs worked out pretty well for us.
would trade up for a LT, Levis or Hooker if one falls to 16-18 that we like.
we got a little lucky on the wirfs trade up. He was the 4th OT taken that year. Would we be trading up for the 1st OT or the 4th?Trading up for wirfs worked out pretty well for us.would trade up for a LT, Levis or Hooker if one falls to 16-18 that we like.
if we trade up for a WB we are stuck with a developmental guy with no line or run game to protect him.
I'm actually in favor of a trade down, especially if the tackles in the top tier the Bucs are actually interested in are gone off the board. It's one thing to say lets get a tackle, but it has to be a guy who fits the mold of what the Bucs want to do.@catherder - I agree. There’s a time to trade down, but we’ve done that the last few years. There’s a reason most pro-bowlers are selected in the first round, and even more concentrated in the top 20, that’s because that’s where the best talent is.
Some of these guys project to be guards in the NFL, such as Skoronksi, so that may not be appealing to the Bucs in the first round.
If the Bucs want to spend a first rounder on a tackle, do they want them to be able to play on the left side in order to keep Wirfs on the right? Why spend a first rounder on a RT?
The devil is in the details when it comes to who to draft at OT and they may be able to move down and get the guy they want, or they may just not be enthused about the guys who are there. The Bucs will take a player at one of their need positions, but they won't prioritize those positions. If a guy can come in and start right away they'll take the BPA as long as it's at one of those need positions. So the Bucs have a need at OT, S, maybe LB, Edge. They'll take the BPA they have on the board, but they want that guy to play. Thats' how Licht operates. Shoyinka and Hall were picks 32 and 33 and they weren't full time right away, but I think this year they need that guy to come in and be a starter at least for a couple downs IMO.
Here is the PFF ranking of tackles in the ballpark of where the Bucs will pick. Or if they trade down five spots to Jax or 11 spots to Philly there might still be one they like there. I think there's a good chance the couple of OTs they would highly covet would be off the board and they may be interested in another couple guys who might be there down the line, and that's why I think a trade down may be in the cards.
2. PARIS JOHNSON JR., OHIO STATE
BIG BOARD RANK: 19
Johnson showed out in his first season at left tackle — he yielded all of 14 pressures on 449 pass-blocking snaps. At 6-foot-6 and 310 pounds, he ticks all the physical boxes you could want at the position.
3. DARNELL WRIGHT, TENNESSEE
BIG BOARD RANK: 20
Wright is a four-year starter who finally saw the proverbial light flip on this past fall. His tape against Alabama’s Will Anderson Jr. was outstanding, as he allowed only one pressure in that game and eight for the season.
4. ANTON HARRISON, OKLAHOMA
BIG BOARD RANK: 24
Harrison is a nimble 6-foot-5, 315-pound tackle who saw time on the left side for the Sooners ever since he was a true freshman. This past season, he allowed only nine pressures on 447 pass-blocking snaps.
5. BRODERICK JONES, GEORGIA
BIG BOARD RANK: 26
Jones is a bully of an offensive tackle. You’re not going through him, you’ll have to go around. He earned an 84.1 pass-blocking grade in his first full season starting at left tackle for the Bulldogs.
6. DAWAND JONES, OHIO STATE
BIG BOARD RANK: 35
Jones is as big a tackle as you’ll ever see at 6-foot-8 and 374 pounds with 36 3/8-inch arms. At that size, he is one of the more refined pass protectors in the class. Jones allowed only five pressures on 419 pass-blocking snaps last season.
