Start doing some draft simulations, you’ll find out pretty quickly how a reach can happen, especially for corners/DB’s.
The Bucs aren't totally against signing players with a questionable past. Whitehead had some issues in college. Randy Gregory was a well-known screw up. Antonio Brown. But the first-round pick is different because that player will be expected to become a team leader. Character matters for all the picks, but in particular a first-round pick.That could be, as SR is fond of saying: Falcons keep Falconing.Mike Green is looking more & more like a Bengal draft pick.
I don’t think he gets past Atlanta.
Yes, need drives reaching. Either on talent in the draft, or character in free agency.The Bucs aren't totally against signing players with a questionable past. Whitehead had some issues in college. Randy Gregory was a well-known screw up. Antonio Brown. But the first-round pick is different because that player will be expected to become a team leader. Character matters for all the picks, but in particular a first-round pick.That could be, as SR is fond of saying: Falcons keep Falconing.Mike Green is looking more & more like a Bengal draft pick.
I don’t think he gets past Atlanta.
Don’t think EZ will be there anymore at 19.
Also don’t think Schwesinger will be there in the 2nd for us either.
Unfortunately, I can see a scenario where Licht goes Safety and Corner with our first 2 picks.
Yeah, been coming to that conclusion myself. Unfortunately, if the value shifts because there’s a run on Edge, then you have to stay with the positions that have first round value.Don’t think EZ will be there anymore at 19.
Also don’t think Schwesinger will be there in the 2nd for us either.
Unfortunately, I can see a scenario where Licht goes Safety and Corner with our first 2 picks.
There are fringe guys that would likely benefit from a year behind Reddick, Diaby, and maybe Braswell…guys like Josaiah Stewart, Femi Oledejo, Johnathon Burch, and Elijah Ponder . I haven’t done much digging on them…but I will.
I say wait on DE. Or at the very least have the attitude of "don't reach"
Agree with you Fire. The Edge options I mentioned are diamonds in the rough - day 2 picks in the draft. Guys that have some interesting facet of their game, had production for a couple of years, but maybe had an injury in their final season (Josaiah Stewart). Some are under-sized guys that had good production against good competition that could be stashed on the roster of a year behind Reddick - we could get some benefit as pass rush specialists - but aren’t complete at the position.
We need a lot of help, we have an answer at edge for this year, but we likely won’t get lucky - so we need to be able to let them see what the standard is for an adage and develop the ability to set an edge to become a more complete option.
After the JTS experiment - tests well on combine measurable’s but didn’t have years worth of production in college. Gotta flip that script and target guys at edge that demonstrated more than 1 year of production on the field, in a good conference.
It all hinges on who is available at pick 19. Contrary to what some might say, I would eagerly draft either Green or Barron if they fall to us. Both have the potential to make an immediate impact. If they're off the board, I would consider EZ or possibly W. Johnson. But I’m not huge on Johnson.
If we miss out on an edge rusher in the first round, I wouldn't pursue one later. Similarly, if we don't secure a cornerback in the first, I would explore the options available in the second and third rounds. I have my eye on LB Schlesinger in the second round or Revel, provided they’re still available.
@ehinote like to see what you think about any of the second tier guys I mentioned above? I’m with you on Ezeirauku, just don’t think he will be there at #19.It all hinges on who is available at pick 19. Contrary to what some might say, I would eagerly draft either Green or Barron if they fall to us. Both have the potential to make an immediate impact. If they're off the board, I would consider EZ or possibly W. Johnson. But I’m not huge on Johnson.
If we miss out on an edge rusher in the first round, I wouldn't pursue one later. Similarly, if we don't secure a cornerback in the first, I would explore the options available in the second and third rounds. I have my eye on LB Schlesinger in the second round or Revel, provided they’re still available.
So, I’m digging a bit on the tier 2 guys, starting with Joasaiah Stewart out of Michigan right now…aggressive, the fact that those Michigan tackles helped him a lot up front is a good comp for what the Bucs have up front.
I’m not interested in seeing what I want to see, interested in a pure pass-rush specialist options that need some work on the other areas of their game. Josaiah Stewart has some areas that need work (hands/repetoire), but his production at Michigan last season (9 sacks) caught my eye.
It all hinges on who is available at pick 19. Contrary to what some might say, I would eagerly draft either Green or Barron if they fall to us. Both have the potential to make an immediate impact. If they're off the board, I would consider EZ or possibly W. Johnson. But I’m not huge on Johnson.
I would think there's zero chance either Barron or Johnson fall to us. And, if so, I'm looking to trade back.
No way am I blowing premium draft capital (R1 or R2) on a high-level press man prospect with Bowles running the DC.
Green isn't on the board, so we'll move on.
I have my eye on LB Schlesinger in the second round
I've been banging that drum for over a month.
Unfortunately for us, doesn't look he'll be there.
So, I’m digging a bit on the tier 2 guys
Princely, Swinson, and Elijah Roberts.
I like Princely, but in which round? I’ve seen some videos of Swinson & Elijah Roberts, but haven’t gotten into any evaluations of them yet.So, I’m digging a bit on the tier 2 guys
Princely, Swinson, and Elijah Roberts.
Theyre going to be stashed in the roster and maybe fed into a few rotations, so it can only help them develop - some are high floor, some have some ceiling. If we’re going to stash them, I’d think we’d want a pure rush guy that you could develop some attack repertoire. And a frame you could add some bulk to your make him less one-dimesional. Princely seems to fit that bill.
I do not mind Starks but at 19 I am not crazy about it. Is Starks that much better than T. Smith? I do not really think so. That is where trading down and taking a Starks makes sense. Extra picks can be used to address edge, CB and ILB while leaving some picks for WR and OL depth respectively.
