lol why?
For starters, he’s the best receiver on the team.
Secondly, you’d only be saving $2M while creating $21M in dead cap.
well beyond his prime.
Well beyond? Come on. He had more yardage in '22 than '21 and would've had even more had our OC not been asleep at the wheel. He's still on a 1000 yard streak. Still our most dangerous weapon.
you dont trade Evans or Godwin.
to me, the guys you can cut on offense are Donovan Smith, Cam Brate, Russell Gage, and maybe Leonard Fournette - albeit i do think Lenny still provides value.
draft Georgia tackle Broderick Jones in the first round
Anyone that thinks Godwin is better than Evans is insane.
This is an offense that tried to FEATURE an overweight Fournette who saw 80+ targets in the passing game alone while playing second fiddle to White in the 2nd half of the year.
Evans in a down year still managed:
1100+ yards
75+ receptions
6 TDs
50+ first downs
After game 1 where he had that insane 1 handed catch in the endzone vs the Cowboys, I'm struggling to think of many more times where we threw him the fade in our struggling red zone offense.
We were literally running designed plays for Fournette... 1 read type plays.
He went from 14 tds to 6 because we stopped using him inside the 10 which is yet another reason why Lefty can go kick rocks.
Good job! You just got us about $20 mil if that. Bad news though. We still have another $25 mil to go. Obviously, if we could just cut those guys and solve the cap problem I wouldn't have started this thread.you dont trade Evans or Godwin.
to me, the guys you can cut on offense are Donovan Smith, Cam Brate, Russell Gage, and maybe Leonard Fournette - albeit i do think Lenny still provides value.
draft Georgia tackle Broderick Jones in the first round
Good job! You just got us about $20 mil if that. Bad news though. We still have another $25 mil to go. Obviously, if we could just cut those guys and solve the cap problem I wouldn't have started this thread.you dont trade Evans or Godwin.
to me, the guys you can cut on offense are Donovan Smith, Cam Brate, Russell Gage, and maybe Leonard Fournette - albeit i do think Lenny still provides value.
draft Georgia tackle Broderick Jones in the first round
how about re-structure guys like Evans, Vita Vea, and others that we know will be on the team next year. That should get us easily under the cap.
dont get me wrong, we arent going to be big spenders as we went all in for a Superbowl (Kudos Glazers!!!) but still, to give Kyle Trask or anyone else for that matter a fighting chase, you keep Godwin and Evans around.
No doubt restructuring will be part of the solution, but Evans has been restructured to death already, and I'm not sure how much more he's going to want to do when we aren't on the hunt for a Superbowl. There are a couple players who could be restructured, such as Vea, but you have to be careful. You are guaranteeing more money and pushing cap consequences into the future, so you better be sure that player is part of your future plans. Barrett for example - How much do you want to push his deal into the future? How many players are you confident that they will be part of this team in two or three years?
but Evans has been restructured to death already, and I'm not sure how much more he's going to want to do when we aren't on the hunt for a Superbowl
He was restructuring before we were in the hunt for a Super Bowl.
Restructuring deals played a large part of getting the Bucs in salary cap hell for the 2023 season. Yes, the Bucs were able to win a SB and just missed going to another SB, but to have any chance of going to a SB in 3-5 years, the Bucs have to get out of salary cap hell.
Isn’t the player typically getting MORE money up front with a restructuring?
trying to understand why a player would turn it down.
Isn’t the player typically getting MORE money up front with a restructuring?
trying to understand why a player would turn it down.
Yes, a player gets more money up front because a large portion of the money is in the form of a signing bonus. The team gets to spread that signing bonus over the course of the contract. If a play signs a contract for 5 years with a 20 million signing bonus, the team gets to spread that bonus over the 5 years for salary cap purposes.
The only reason a player would turn it down is because he thinks he can get more money in free agency.
The player isn't going to turn it down if it is to his benefit, but he's not just going to do it to help out the team. There would have to be an incentive. So yes Evans could restructure, but he's already got about $13 mil of bonus money pushed into future years. So you are talking about pushing out even more money into future cap years which comes due at the end of his tenure with the Bucs. We see what a $35 mil cap hit looks like with Brady. You are possibly talking about a $20 mil hit if Evans were to call it quits or get traded. That's just one guy.Isn’t the player typically getting MORE money up front with a restructuring?
trying to understand why a player would turn it down.
Yes, a player gets more money up front because a large portion of the money is in the form of a signing bonus. The team gets to spread that signing bonus over the course of the contract. If a play signs a contract for 5 years with a 20 million signing bonus, the team gets to spread that bonus over the 5 years for salary cap purposes.
The only reason a player would turn it down is because he thinks he can get more money in free agency.
Licht used that tactic of pushing money into the future to make a Superbowl run. Now he's trying to get out of it. I don't think he's just going to kick the can down the road and have this situation happen again. So there may be some minor restructuring, but not as much as people think. Not if it means pushing more cap money into years beyond the players' contracts.
if we are going to soft tank which if we plan to roll with Trask that is exactly what they are signaling then i question why you keep a guy like Shaq Barrett on the team.
you keep offensive talent because you want to realistically see if Trask is the answer. but as far as defense, i dont see why you bring back guys like Gholston, Hicks, try and cut Barrett, etc.
would argue only reason you bring back David is for the fans and Dean although top caliber, can hopefully get replacement in second round of draft.
this all changes if we sign Jimmy G. it all depends on what Bucs are trying to do but i think they are signaling soft tank at this point until they prove otherwise
So the thing that is missing from the original analysis is that the team can walk itself to freedom over time, not all in one year, right and do so by re-working deals. It doesn't have to just offload talent
It can ask players to re-do their contracts giving them more money now and even though this is still pushing money down the road the cap is going up and time changes everything. So, the most LIKELY scenario this year isn't "trade Godwin" (and other talent) its re-work his deal and others and cut some other poor performers?
Yeah I don’t see the logic in not keeping Godwin and evans
whether trask, jimmy G or a rookie QB you want those guys to throw too
