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Posted by: @bucsbits

So the thing that is missing from the original analysis is that the team can walk itself to freedom over time, not all in one year, right and do so by re-working deals. It doesn't have to just offload talent

 

It can ask players to re-do their contracts giving them more money now and even though this is still pushing money down the road the cap is going up and time changes everything. So, the most LIKELY scenario this year isn't "trade Godwin" (and other talent) its re-work his deal and others and cut some other poor performers?

I don't claim that it's likely that Godwin will get traded, but it's something that's not out of the realm of possibility, that's all.   Specifically, what is the biggest cap offender is converting salary into bonuses.  That's like putting your money on a cap credit card.  Spend now, pay later.  

 

 
Posted : Feb. 27, 2023 5:38 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

So the thing that is missing from the original analysis is that the team can walk itself to freedom over time, not all in one year, right and do so by re-working deals. It doesn't have to just offload talent

 

It can ask players to re-do their contracts giving them more money now and even though this is still pushing money down the road the cap is going up and time changes everything. So, the most LIKELY scenario this year isn't "trade Godwin" (and other talent) its re-work his deal and others and cut some other poor performers?

I don't claim that it's likely that Godwin will get traded, but it's something that's not out of the realm of possibility, that's all.   Specifically, what is the biggest cap offender is converting salary into bonuses.  That's like putting your money on a cap credit card.  Spend now, pay later.  

 

 

agreed on the credit card comparison.  I am just saying that our thread is actually advocating trading Godwin because of the cap ("But this is about cap numbers this offseason, and trading Godwin makes sense")

 

I think that's because of the cap.  anyway the other option is restructure, I think

 

 
Posted : Feb. 27, 2023 6:12 pm
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Yeah it's not the "cap" with people who want to gut the team, it's about getting rid of Bowles.

Some of you need to just admit that.

 
Posted : Mar. 1, 2023 10:08 pm
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Posted by: @abucsthing

Yeah it's not the "cap" with people who want to gut the team, it's about getting rid of Bowles.

Some of you need to just admit that.

 

seems like rhetoric

what are you in-suiting?

do we dislike bowles because he blew last year or another reason?

 

just curious where you are coming from?

and if you consider trask as trying and taking Brady cap hit all this year then I suggest you lump the glazers in that category you are ignorantly putting the fans that are suggesting a soft tank is for being against bowles as opposed to clear mathematics 

 

 
Posted : Mar. 2, 2023 1:24 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @abucsthing

Yeah it's not the "cap" with people who want to gut the team, it's about getting rid of Bowles.

Some of you need to just admit that.

 

seems like rhetoric

what are you in-suiting?

do we dislike bowles because he blew last year or another reason?

 

just curious where you are coming from?

and if you consider trask as trying and taking Brady cap hit all this year then I suggest you lump the glazers in that category you are ignorantly putting the fans that are suggesting a soft tank is for being against bowles as opposed to clear mathematics 

 

 

Look at the post count. 

Don't feed the troll.

 

 
Posted : Mar. 2, 2023 10:31 pm
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Godwin has been my favorite Bucs player. I would not want to see him traded. However, if it is a financial necessity here is where I think he goes. 

There are two playoff teams that are likely to use their 1st round pick on a WR, the Chiefs and the Giants. The WR class is not strong. The Giants have 5 free agents WR's and their 1st round pick is at #25. If they were to trade up with the Bucs to#19 they would have to give up #25 and #57 according to the Trade Chart. The Giants have 12 picks!

The two questions would be do the Bucs prefer to keep #19 and receive #25 and #57 and trade Godwin or trade #19 for #25 and #57? Would the Giants prefer to get Godwin instead of giving up #25 and #57 for a rookie WR at #19?

The Chiefs have 13 picks. Under the same scenario the Chiefs would give up #31 and # 63 for #19 or for Godwin.

IMO opinion the trade with the Giants for Godwin would give the Bucs two Round 1 picks (#19 and #25) and two Round 2 picks (#50 and #57). The Bucs should be able to 2 possibly 3 starters!

Your thoughts?

 

 
Posted : Mar. 8, 2023 4:32 pm
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Godwin is not getting traded. I feel fairly certain it's not even something they'd consider unless some team came to them with a ridiculous offer. And that's just not happening. Sorry. This speculation is wankery. 

 
Posted : Mar. 8, 2023 4:52 pm
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