Evans >>>> Godwin
Yes the injury and he's not in the slot enough but let's get serious... some here were saying that Godwin was better after he has that amazing season. But the reality is, they aren't close and were never close.
Josh Allen>>>>>>>> Devin White
Yes Devin White helped us win a super bowl by playing out of his mind during that stretch... and I thank him for it... but Josh Allen has become an ELITE pass rusher, and solid against the run. It's not even close. Yet some here were certain that Josh Allen falling in Licht's lap meant nothing because he got Devin White. And many of us said for that pick to make sense he had to be a perennial all pro. Well instead we got arguably the worst MLB in the league... and that isn't a hyperbole
Feel like Evans is always the favorite target of any QB with only Brady targeting Godwin just as much if not more (just felt that way, not sure of the targets per game off the top of my head)
no doubt if only able to keep one, you keep Evans
im suggesting we can keep both rather easily with some cuts
apart from randy moss years, brady always preferred targeting WRs on short routes. mike is better player, there was never any doubt about that, at least not for me!
about allen/white ... yes, it would have been much more fun with allen, but highly likely without the second ring
only Brady targeting Godwin just as much if not more
I think maybe just the role Godwin played in that offense and Brady being very fond of the dump off?
They are very different receivers because of their physical differences
But folks took that 1.5 year sample as declared him better than Mike... which as we all know is ridiculous.
Overall... there's a recency bias that fans need to understand when saying "don't resign Mike".
If this team didn't have Evans, we might be the lowest scoring team in the league... and that's not an exaggeration
Anyone not wanting to resign evans is insane
would be great for any QB next year particularly in their development
I’d cut Shaq, Gage, Jensen, Dean, etc to make room. Not sure of the particular cap moves needed but signing Evans should be #1 priority
But folks took that 1.5 year sample as declared him better than Mike... which as we all know is ridiculous.
Overall... there's a recency bias that fans need to understand when saying "don't resign Mike".
If this team didn't have Evans, we might be the lowest scoring team in the league... and that's not an exaggeration
Both good and different. They play different roles in the offense.
Anyone not wanting to resign evans is insane
would be great for any QB next year particularly in their development
I’d cut Shaq, Gage, Jensen, Dean, etc to make room. Not sure of the particular cap moves needed but signing Evans should be #1 priority
They even have non-football reasons to re-sign him so pretty sure they work it out
Funny that this draft decision will lead to his demise. It took about 3-4 years before teams figured out how to neutralize White I'm glad we were able to cash in on it. Sucks though Allen will be a force for the next 5-7 years while Kwon Jr will be on many teams.
Evans has always been better than Godwin. Its just for the past 3 years under Arians/Leftwich we really made it hard for Mike to get easy opportunities. Canales does a better job moving Mike around and scheming him open - so he doesn't have to make contested catches so often and win 50/50 balls.
Ill bite. I prefer Godwin to Evans. I like them both, but if I had to choose, I wouldn't hesitate. To me it comes down to dropped passes. I didnt watch the game, but I noticed something I may have only noticed once before. Godwin did have like a 90+% catch rate on his pass targets for one game....ok. Good, Evans had a great game, Im glad for him and the Bucs. I see Evans as a streaky WR, nothing wrong with that. He has historic numbers, but he also has historic volume of targets. If it came down to one play, 4th and 10 on the 10 yard line to win or lose the game. I will throw to Godwin 10 out of 10 times, and probably win 90+ of the time. He's clutch, thats it.
To me it comes down to dropped passes. I didnt watch the game, but I noticed something I may have only noticed once before. Godwin did have like a 90+% catch rate on his pass targets for one game....ok.
Godwin did not have a good game in the drop department. Actually it's been an issue all year for him. I will agree that's relatively new.
Godwin also has a fumbling issue (9 in 6+ seasons) that Evans (3 in 9+ seasons) does not.
He has historic numbers, but he also has historic volume of targets.
In the last five seasons, Chris Godwin has received more targets than Mike Evans in three of those five seasons. Godwin missed 4 games in 2020, and Evans was targeted more. And then this season, Evans has 91 targets to Godwin's 82. Your argument here isn't as persuasive as you believe it to be.
Godwin has been the better underneath target, but Evans is the superior deep threat with a higher YPC in almost every season and the better TD target.
apart from mike alstott, we never had any player on offense with significance anywhere close mike evans. one of the greatest bucs of all time, you simply can‘t let him go! we had derrick, ronde, waren and john on our best team ever, now we‘ve got mike and lavonte.
and yes, he is not the best offensive player who played in the bay, those were brady, gronk and that idiot brown, (steve young as well) but mike is a true buc who can carry this team and means a lot to the fans as well
There is a bit of bias, its impossible to eliminate all. Its just, no WR has ever made me pull out my hair (and Im bald now BTW) more than ME, and it had to do with drops or simply "non catches." A few years ago it felt like every pass to him with was either a drop or him calling for pass interference. Obviously, based on my my recall and perception I remember thinking ME gets more first downs via Pass interferance calls than from actually catching a pass. My bad, its hard for me to let that go especially when I still see the drops on important downs. To me M.Evans is the feast or famine WR, when hes on, he's ON. Godwin just catches EVERYTHING, damn near anyway. Again, just my perception, maybe actual statistics will refute it. Thank you for the fumble data, I didnt realize that, and its important. Turn overs cost games.
Anyone not wanting to resign evans is insane
would be great for any QB next year particularly in their development
I’d cut Shaq, Gage, Jensen, Dean, etc to make room. Not sure of the particular cap moves needed but signing Evans should be #1 priority
They even have non-football reasons to re-sign him so pretty sure they work it out
yeah i for one, would lose a lot of steam with this franchise. You would take alot of fans hearts out of it during a time that we will not have much to root for
you sign Evans, hands down. i agree they will get a deal done..because quite frankly, they have too...unless they are looking to sell the team
the Godwin v Evans comparison if very difficult because they are so physically different and their roles are so different . It would make sense that Godwin had more fumbles as an example, because he plays over the middle. More targets under Arians same thing. And with Brady.
Godwin is sit down in zones, Evans is run by the CB. In the current trend of defenses, Evans feels the crunch (thats why he's expanded his route tree) and Godwin's role is needed, which makes the outside shift odd.
