"Vegas" job is to get an equal amount of money on both sides so they can profit off the vig. If the money was moving in one direction they would change the line.
Vegas doesn't have a "job".
The people who makes the lines do. Don't come for me on some lame bullshit.
This is true. My thread title is sarcastic of course. But people, even radio talk show guys, seem to have a different opinion. They seem to think that Vegas has some kind of insider knowledge and they're going to post the real odds without favoritism toward a home town team."Vegas" job is to get an equal amount of money on both sides so they can profit off the vig. If the money was moving in one direction they would change the line.
You can predict the predictors by just looking at how they did last season and add or subtract a game or two based on how they ended up the season, a key free agent signing or two or a coaching change. That's about all these predicts factor in. They aren't doing a deep dive into insider information that's not available to the average fan. So most projections for the Bucs will be about 9-8 this year IMO. Last year 9-8. Finished strong. Kept their players. But division teams supposedly got better. They lost their OC (after one year). So it all balances out. 9-8!
Does Vegas or anybody else have some kind of insider knowledge? No, they don't. We read PR, Joe Buc fan. We see what happens to this team on a daily basis. The national prognosticators are looking at 32 teams and just looking at the main factors you can count on one hand - previous record, end of year trend, coaching changes, one or two key signings. They aren't doing any deep dives into the psyches of the teams and finding out information that's beyond the reach of the average fan. They aren't using mathematical formulas based on ninety-seven data points.
If you as a fan who follows the comings and goings of the Bucs and you are able to be objective you have as much information as any national prognosticator or any local radio host. You're guess is truly as good as theirs. And that's proven out. I predicted 9-8 last year. TKraz predicted 4-13. And yet he's the one getting paid!
"Vegas" job is to get an equal amount of money on both sides so they can profit off the vig. If the money was moving in one direction they would change the line.
Vegas doesn't have a "job".
Yeah they do, they job the betting public.
"Vegas" job is to get an equal amount of money on both sides so they can profit off the vig. If the money was moving in one direction they would change the line.
Vegas doesn't have a "job".
The people who makes the lines do. Don't come for me on some lame bullshit.
No one is coming for you dude. That's a promise
Um, according to MGMBet the O/U isn’t 8.5, it’s 7.5. Just bet on it. Where are you guys seeing 8.5, out of curiosity?
https://www.pewterreport.com/bucs-still-do-not-get-respect-vegas/Um, according to MGMBet the O/U isn’t 8.5, it’s 7.5. Just bet on it. Where are you guys seeing 8.5, out of curiosity?
https://www.pewterreport.com/bucs-still-do-not-get-respect-vegas/Um, according to MGMBet the O/U isn’t 8.5, it’s 7.5. Just bet on it. Where are you guys seeing 8.5, out of curiosity?
ah. Must be old. FanDuel/MGM and a couple other sports books all have TB down for 7.5 in 2024. Just put $100 on the over. Easy $$$.
Agree. I'd take the over if I was a betting man.https://www.pewterreport.com/bucs-still-do-not-get-respect-vegas/Um, according to MGMBet the O/U isn’t 8.5, it’s 7.5. Just bet on it. Where are you guys seeing 8.5, out of curiosity?
ah. Must be old. FanDuel/MGM and a couple other sports books all have TB down for 7.5 in 2024. Just put $100 on the over. Easy $$$.
Gotta think 7.5 is a perfect line.
I think we split the division. So, there's 3 wins right there.
Home games with Eagles (Loss), Commanders (Win), Broncos (Win), Raiders (Win), 49'ers (Loss) , and Ravens (Loss).
So, now we're up to 6 wins.
Away games with Cowboys (Loss), Giants (Win), Chiefs (Loss), Chargers (Win), Lions (Loss)
That puts us at 8 wins and the over.
Gotta think 7.5 is a perfect line.
I think we split the division. So, there's 3 wins right there.
Home games with Eagles (Loss), Commanders (Win), Broncos (Win), Raiders (Win), 49'ers (Loss) , and Ravens (Loss).
So, now we're up to 6 wins.
Away games with Cowboys (Loss), Giants (Win), Chiefs (Loss), Chargers (Win), Lions (Loss)
That puts us at 8 wins and the over.
if going strictly by point spreads, you got it right as we will likely be favored in about as much games we will be the underdogs next year.
i do think we have potential to go 4-2 in the division as we've done the last several. Atlanta much improved and don't think it's possible for Carolina to be worse!
think we can potentially beat Eagles at home. but then again, also think it's possible for us to lose to Chargers on road.
my best case is likely - 10 wins, 7 losses
worst case - 7 wins, 10 losses
my too early prediction - 9 wins, 8 losses
my Bowles is fired, Bucs drafting a QB next year scenario - 5 wins, 12 losses
my best case is likely - 10 wins, 7 losses
worst case - 7 wins, 10 losses
my too early prediction - 9 wins, 8 losses
I think as DH predicted earlier, another down to the wire division race.
I put a little money on the over for betting interest, not necessarily the wisest choice. Vegas line is probably fair. I think the Falcons under is a smart play. Talk about overhyped
my best case is likely - 10 wins, 7 losses
worst case - 7 wins, 10 losses
my too early prediction - 9 wins, 8 losses
I think as DH predicted earlier, another down to the wire division race.
Exactly my prediction. 7-10 to 10-7, likely 9-8.
I put a little money on the over for betting interest, not necessarily the wisest choice. Vegas line is probably fair. I think the Falcons under is a smart play. Talk about overhyped
really depends on how Cousins bounces back from injury
even so, they didnt have a QB last year and they managed to win 7 games
some solid weapons in Robinson, London, and Pitts; i understand the attraction
as a Bucs fan, i dont think it's a foregone conclusion that Atlanta wins as likely a coin flip between us, Saints, and Falcons for the division.
if we are the team that clicked that finished season 5-1, beat the Eagles, then kept it close through 3 quarters with Detroit, would have to think we are the team to beat; however let's not forget who we quickly can become which is why Vegas doesn't necessarily believe in us.
Personally, I hope Cousins makes a full recovery and finishes his career as well as he possibly can.
That said, the odds are a little stacked against him with his age and that particular injury. But I never had a reason to dislike him, and when he first went to MIN I hoped he'd break through his limitations and lead them to many deep playoff runs.
Unfortunately, he couldn't quite overcome himself and that obviously didn't happen. He still shrinks in both PT and playoff games, and as his mobility further declines, those issues probably won't improve. My thought is that he's fully developed at this point, and unfortunately it just isn't quite enough to get his team over the hump.
If he can stay healthy, considering how weak ATL's schedule is going to be, he should be worth about 3 games, so I can see ATL winning 10 or 11 games. IF he can stay healthy and IF he plays as well as he was before he got hurt. Big "IFs" but it's very possible.
