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We Lose to Panthers if Bowles Handcuffs Offense

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Posted by: @pennywise

For the season, the Buccaneers' play-action rate is 16.2%.

it was 43.5 the first half against the bengals  , the most all year 

 

Wait. 

You mean to tell me our best offensive showing this year for an entire half came on heavy usage of play action?

I thought play action only works when you run the ball well?

(We averaged 3.8 yards per carry in the 1st half). 

Weird…

 


 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 1:30 pm
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Looking at the situations where we ran or didn’t run play action are important. We ran PA against the Bengals with success on first down throughout the first half. But we started our first 3 drives of the 2nd half with runs on 1st down. All 3 drives ended without a first down and started up the Bengals comeback.


 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 2:51 pm
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Posted by: @ehinote

Looking at the situations where we ran or didn’t run play action are important. We ran PA against the Bengals with success on first down throughout the first half. But we started our first 3 drives of the 2nd half with runs on 1st down. All 3 drives ended without a first down and started up the Bengals comeback.

 

Correct, and the team was still leading Cincy for all three of those drives.

 


 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 2:56 pm
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@biggs3535 - but steady losing the lead with no production on offense and losing all momentum.


 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 3:07 pm
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Posted by: @ehinote

Looking at the situations where we ran or didn’t run play action are important. We ran PA against the Bengals with success on first down throughout the first half. But we started our first 3 drives of the 2nd half with runs on 1st down. All 3 drives ended without a first down and started up the Bengals comeback.

Excellent and accurate points. 

Lovie’s sequencing with play calling is horrible. 

 


 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 3:25 pm
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We all want Leftwich gone, has anyone asked the question Who would want to come work with Bowles? He has had a big hand in killing the offense. Thoughts?


 
Posted : Dec. 27, 2022 7:24 pm
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Both Bowles and Leftwich need to be fired. Which essentially means most if not the entire coaching staff will be gone in the regime change. With Brady leaving and Leftwich getting axed, it's a good time to start over with a more progressive coaching staff.


 
Posted : Dec. 28, 2022 9:10 am
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Isn’t Bowles coaching with mostly Arians  staff because the transition happened so late?

 

if so, big coaching turnover coming anyway. 

Also a reason Bowles is unlikely to get fired. 


 
Posted : Dec. 28, 2022 11:03 am
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Simple formula to beat the Panthers: get out to a lead early. Force them to go away from the run. 

if the coaches have been holding back the offense this is the game to let loose the reins, especially early on. 


 
Posted : Dec. 28, 2022 12:02 pm
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I am not sure we can stop their running game unless we can force them to pass because we have the lead. 


 
Posted : Dec. 28, 2022 5:51 pm
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Bowles hatred of great offense ensures the Bucs hire a very low tier OC in the offseason. For this reason alone Bowles needs to be one and done. His coaching philosophy is incredibly outdated. Keeping him guarantees a new decade of losing. Folks, it’s on him. 


 
Posted : Dec. 28, 2022 8:01 pm
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Posted by: @Anonymous

CAR ran for 300 yards last week. I don't have a lot of confidence we can stop their running game.

 

Posted by: @bucsbits

I am not sure we can stop their running game unless we can force them to pass because we have the lead. 

 

The CAR RB's rushed 16 times for 47 yards for 2.9 YPC, and Carolina lead the entire game until 6:47 left in Q4.

 


 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2023 4:23 pm
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Posted by: @Anonymous

CAR ran for 300 yards last week. I don't have a lot of confidence we can stop their running game.

 

Posted by: @bucsbits

I am not sure we can stop their running game unless we can force them to pass because we have the lead. 

 

The CAR RB's rushed 16 times for 47 yards for 2.9 YPC, and Carolina lead the entire game until 6:47 left in Q4.

 

 
I will take that

 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2023 9:37 pm
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Buggsy - "there's no correlation between running and passing in the NFL"

Also Buggsy -- "the Bucs need to fake the run more to set up the pass."

 

POINT:  The Bucs did great to stop the run.  Big part of why we won.  Also good sign for playoffs


 
Posted : Jan. 3, 2023 10:39 pm
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