Yeah, Coen didn’t do a great job of accounting for himself yesterday. Jacksonville looks unprepared
Fire, you're better than that JC-style response. I will just assume you agree that Goedeke's return mattered
When did I say it didn't matter? Of course it matters....but the end product didn't improve coming out of a bye.
It has continued to regress all season
I am not sure how you can say that when we just had our first 100 yard rushing game since probably the first 5 games and t was against a team averaging only allowing 74.
We lost yesterday because the defense got torched on 4 explosive plays.Could the play calling be better? Sure, but if you compare that two offenses - Coen 2024 versus Grizz 2025 - the impact of INJURIES should stand out. As I have posted over and over (with no response from most of you), where is the pony package and all the other counter runs? Its pretty unlikely Grizz is sitting around saying to himself "I want to just ignore the best run packages we have to show people I can do it MY WAY."
And, again, you're acting like it's the norm, when today was very much an anomaly.
Sorry that you think it's "silly" that some of us actually want to see Grizz evolve and get better as a play caller.
By silly I mean both that it's overblown and that it had almost nothing to do with their struggles in this game. I am happy to be proven wrong about the former but there should be no dispute about the latter.
and anyway the context that would matter would be 1st down run plays COMPARED TO COEN, right? There's an obvious personnel difference that would impact performance but is the first down run rate different then Coen? It's balanced during the game or arguably even overweight to passing.
the context compared to COEN
1. The Bucs run LESS than the Jags, even though Coen's big chnage to the Jags offense was run game
Jags 248 rushing attempts versus 225 for the Bucs
Jags are 24/58 run to pass, Bucs are 41 to 59
2. The Bucs offense is MORE potent than the Jags
Jags have 205 points to Bucs 220
3. The bucs run game is LESS productive than the Jags
Jags have 100yds rushing, Bucs have 896
4. The Bucs offense is MORE productive than the Jags
Jags average 324 yds/game, the Bucs average 328/yds per game
5. The Bucs and Jags run about the SAME on 1st and 10.
Jags 114 attempts versus Bucs 119
First down runs are NOT the difference between Coen and Grizz.
If anything the difference is short passing and INJURIES. This should be pretty clear by looking at the drop in 3rd down conversions. Grizz is the creator of the Bucs very good 2024 third down offense, so why has it dropped so much this season? One early down idea would be Irving was a 5 plus yard runner versus White a 3 plus yard runner. another would be deep throws over short 5-10 yds completions (guess on my part).
PLAY CALLING IS ALWAYS PART OF AN OFFENSE SUCCESS AND FAILURES BUT . . .
if you just think of 2024 it was the season of Bucky Irving and the run game -- pony packages, counters etc -- behind a line that was INTACT for much of the season.
That is what should stand out as different this season. Probably NOT coincidence that we finally get Goedeke back and the run game comes online
the context compared to COEN
Yesterday in their first 4 SCORING drives (stopped counting lol), the Jags put up 20 points. THEY RAN on 8 first downs (including a 5 yard loss) and passed on 1.
eight runs, one pass
The difference between Grizz and Coen is NOT first down run/pass choice.
