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performance is impacted by the line obviously but you run on1st down for more reasons then that downs performance obviously. Romo actually made that point today. 

I understand that, but when you're practically the worst in the league at it; you shouldn't be in the top half in attempts. 

As I've stated before, Grizz appears to be in over his head. 

 

He's at best a mediocre play caller..he's not getting the best out of the players and ever since Baker stopped bailing him out in scramble drills (he had a scramble drill TD to Tez) with his legs the offense started to struggle.

 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 7:55 pm
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

you shouldn't be in the top half in attempts. 

 

I don't know that I agree and they are 6-3

the Pats 72 yds TD pass was PA 1st and 10 and if you watch Smith he is 100% sold on the run. Again, Romo even commented on it. The reason you stay committed to the run. 

I think you just get better you don't give up on it especially when you're winning without your starting lineman 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 8:57 pm
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the offense started to struggle.

So the first drive of the Pats game is the opposite of what you describe. Even if you say "it's scripted" he created the script. So that would leave the other drives but when I watch them I see more execution issues than anything, something that seems natural with back ups, rotation of players etc. 

 

certainly could be wrong but the run game against the Pats would say maybe not.  Goedwke back.  


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 9:01 pm
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the offense started to struggle.

So the first drive of the Pats game is the opposite of what you describe. Even if you say "it's scripted" he created the script. So that would leave the other drives but when I watch them I see more execution issues than anything, something that seems natural with back ups, rotation of players etc. 

 

certainly could be wrong but the run game against the Pats would say maybe not.  Goedwke back.  

First drive was excellent, well scripted and off balance. 

Kudos for coming up with that with 2 weeks to prep.

Then we had 2 chances to go up 14-0 and Grizz dialed up some trash. 

The offense struggled all game, even when it moved the ball is was super difficult and slow developing. 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 9:26 pm
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Tampa's #1 priority in the offseason is to find a true NFL running back

This has to be a schtick. 

Unless Tucker emerges as a starting type back, White looks doubtful to return to Tampa in the off-season.  So you have Bucky, who again, is an injury waiting to happen with more than 20 total touches a game.  You good with Tucker and Irving?  

I wouldn’t necessarily use a first round pick on a RB but I would want to draft one in the first three rounds. 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 9:36 pm
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Tampa's #1 priority in the offseason is to find a true NFL running back

This has to be a schtick. 

Unless Tucker emerges as a starting type back, White looks doubtful to return to Tampa in the off-season.  So you have Bucky, who again, is an injury waiting to happen with more than 20 total touches a game.  You good with Tucker and Irving?  

I wouldn’t necessarily use a first round pick on a RB but I would want to draft one in the first three rounds. 

 

Which is a far cry from your asinine earlier attempt at needed a real RB...

Bucky is like Kyren Williams. 12-18 touches a game is the sweet spot. 

He got hurt because of a hip drop tackle. He played all 17 games last year meaning a FULL SEASON.

Yes a smaller back is more likely to get hurt than Derrick Henry. 

So he got hurt this year on a hip drop just like other players would... Is Skataboo too small? He's out for the season from a hip drop. 

It's like you type shit, then you think it through later... Which is why you're trying to normalize your tarded take from earlier. 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 11, 2025 1:54 am
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I wouldn’t necessarily use a first round pick on a RB but I would want to draft one in the first three rounds. 

That’s not what you said, so kudos on the feeble attempt to walk back that comical take. 

And, if we burn a premium pick on RB this upcoming draft, it’d be up there in the Aguayo category of retard. 


 
Posted : Nov. 11, 2025 6:55 am
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I don't know that I agree and they are 6-3

Their overall failing run rate on 1st down and over usage of it has little to nothing to do with their record. 

They can still “commit to the run” while picking better spots, different downs, better sequences, different personnel, etc. 


 
Posted : Nov. 11, 2025 7:26 am
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I wouldn’t necessarily use a first round pick on a RB but I would want to draft one in the first three rounds. 

That’s not what you said, so kudos on the feeble attempt to walk back that comical take. 

And, if we burn a premium pick on RB this upcoming draft, it’d be up there in the Aguayo category of retard. 

yeah would think the top 3 would be focused on ILB, Defensive Line, maybe TE/WR depending on what they do with free agency and what comes up potential retirements - Evans, Godwin, and McMillian this offseason.  yikes. 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 11, 2025 7:52 am
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I wouldn’t necessarily use a first round pick on a RB but I would want to draft one in the first three rounds. 

That’s not what you said, so kudos on the feeble attempt to walk back that comical take. 

And, if we burn a premium pick on RB this upcoming draft, it’d be up there in the Aguayo category of retard. 

yeah would think the top 3 would be focused on ILB, Defensive Line, maybe TE/WR depending on what they do with free agency and what comes up potential retirements - Evans, Godwin, and McMillian this offseason.  yikes. 

 

Needs to be (in no particular order):

1. ILB

2. IOL 

3. WR

 


 
Posted : Nov. 11, 2025 8:39 am
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I don't know that I agree and they are 6-3

Their overall failing run rate on 1st down and over usage of it has little to nothing to do with their record. 

They can still “commit to the run” while picking better spots, different downs, better sequences, different personnel, etc. 

 

i definitely get your point and they can improve. I only raised the record because they will say the BALANCE is working and they will anticipate improved performance as the line comes back and IF Irving comes back 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 11, 2025 9:06 am
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I wouldn’t necessarily use a first round pick on a RB but I would want to draft one in the first three rounds. 

That’s not what you said, so kudos on the feeble attempt to walk back that comical take. 

And, if we burn a premium pick on RB this upcoming draft, it’d be up there in the Aguayo category of retard. 

Or, just like we needed to make secondary a priority in this past draft and didn't use a first round pick on a CB.  That doesn't mean it's not an off-season priority. 

 

If we use one of our first three picks on a rb, it's because the position doesn't warrant a first round pick anymore.  Doesn't make it less of a priority. 

 

Answer this.  Should we move forward with just Irving and Tucker?  

My guess is no.  It's okay if you don't agree with that.

 


 
Posted : Nov. 11, 2025 9:46 am
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Is Skataboo too small? He's out for the season from a hip drop. 

It's his first season and he's unavailable.  I am not saying it's his size or his fault I am saying he isn't helping the Giants on the IR in his rookie season.  Doesn't really matter why or if he's too small or not.


 
Posted : Nov. 11, 2025 9:50 am
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I think when you have a slightly built feature back, you probably need to have a RB factored into your acquisition plans, or at least find a back that can share the load - can Tucker fill that role?

It would be nice to find a big back that can also be utiiized in pass-blocking/blitz pick up. If we lose White, who is perfect for that, and also has elite screen skills, we’ll need to find one with those skill sets. Maybe we’ll re-sign White?

Its not a priority, but it’s a factor.

Biggest issues to me for draft/FA in the offseason will be starting WR and ILB. I’d say it’s logical to trade/FA for starting WR, then draft the other two.


 
Posted : Nov. 11, 2025 10:10 am
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Maybe we’ll re-sign White?

I’ve thought about this.  I see too many teams wanting him in the off-season for us to get in a bidding war.  He’s a good back who does the silent things great.  But I’m not sure Tampa is going to give him a second contract. 

 


 
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