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Posted by: @jc5100

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Posted by: @jc5100

Arians came in and was going to fix things and went 7-9.

Bruce went 31-18 with a SB win. 

Again, what is your record as a GM?

Lets compare your resume to Licht’s. 

Brady and Gronk aren't coming back. We're back to Licht's norm. 

 

Again, chickenshit, post your resume. 

Let’s see if your “norm” is superior to JL’s. 

 


 
Posted : Dec. 29, 2025 3:17 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

how is this roster above average right now?

We have a top 12 QB when healthy. Him going cold for this stretch doesn't diminish how elite he was early.

We have 3 good RBs being underutilized by shit play calling.

We have 5 good WRs that is currently fully healthy and massively underutilized.

Our TE group is the worst in the league.

Our offensive line has 1 superstar, a good RT, and a good RG. Barton needs to improve and we need Breadson to switch to center where he is serviceble.

We have 4 good CBs 

We have a former all-pro safety who's playing poorly since getting paid and Smith could still be very good despite his struggles lately.

Front 7 is trash but we still have Vea, Reddick, and Diaby who are all good enough if used correctly. 

The rest of the front seven are David a year past his experation, the worst MLB in football, and a bunch of 1st and 2nd rounders that Licht either whiffed on or we couldn't develop.

We have an elite kicker

We have a below average punter 

Our depths sucks as evident by our special teams

Our cap hell is almost done...

It's a top 16 unit in terms of talent for sure... 

Licht isn't without fault in it obviously 

 


 
Posted : Dec. 29, 2025 3:42 pm
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We have 4 good CBs 

We have a former all-pro safety who's playing poorly since getting paid and Smith could still be very good despite his struggles lately.

Front 7 is trash but we still have Vea, Reddick, and Diaby who are all good enough if used correctly. 

The rest of the front seven are David a year past his experation, the worst MLB in football, and a bunch of 1st and 2nd rounders that Licht either whiffed on or we couldn't develop.

so many asterisks to add

 

1. "4 good CBs" -- Dean freelancing and McCollum playing like he's fat and happy = a couple of rookies

2. "We have a former all-pro . . ." - the titles don't matter and you say both S playing poorly . . AGREED

"Front 7 is trash" -- THE END, at least for most defenses. Name a good defense with a trash front 7? The best usually have dominant players in the front 4, at least.

 

 

THE BIGGEST ASTERISKS THOUGH:

3. A team can have a good set of defensive players, but when they lose trust in each other . . . its over, its a BAD defense. Full stop. From run defense to pass defense, it takes 11 committed and disciplined players. If you already start from a talent deficit ("trash front 7") then the wheels come off in spectacular fashion when the losing starts. Tykee Smith benched is pretty significant.

4. The Bucs defense has an "I got mine" problem and this falls heavily on Bowles. Dean (and Davis before him) stand out.  McCollum watched Dean.  AWJ is a little surprising, but hard to say he is not alos infected.  White before all of them. Bowles said "it has to be more than a job . . ."

And that highlights that the defense has been without a DOMINANT leader  -- a Sapp or Nickerson, demanding the best out of everyone -- for a LONG time.  LVD was maybe that a few years ago, but only by example.


 
Posted : Dec. 29, 2025 5:28 pm
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