I’m not interested in hearing that this was meant to be a rebuilding year or that we’re still paying past players. Bowles and Licht didn’t enter this season with that mindset. They expected playoffs and contending.
Going back to your original post, which was good as usual.
But, highlighting this here.
If Licht truly thought we were in a “window”, he would’ve been more active.
And, yes, we are still paying off the credit card. Look at this year. We’re paying nearly $60M in dead money. We’ll be at $30M next year off Jensen and Shaq alone (not to mention Godwin’s pending $19M void year).
Whether right or wrong, it very much looks like Licht is currently prioritizing setting up a better cap situation for 2025 and beyond vs. loading up in any facet this season. He spread certain hits to get AWJ, Wirfs, Evans, and Baker locked up; but outside of that, we simply didn’t/don’t have the room.
And, I’m not mad at him for him not doing anything with a bad HC running the team.;
@Donkey_Hunter - Hah, I was with you on most of that reply…till the last sentence.
Not denying you have a valid opinion regarding coaching issues, I just differ on the fact that Bowles is bad enough to replace.
If we know the defense paid the price for not getting Bowles the players he needed for his defense, we can’t take Licht’s decision and hang it on the DC/HC.
If we know the defense paid the price for not getting Bowles the players he needed for his defense, we can’t take Licht’s decision and hang it on the DC/H
seems like basic common sense
all the more so if you realize the defense helped win a SB
If you accept that Licht's plan focuses on the cap and dead money issues first then Licht would be rooting for Bowles to do well enough this year to have him stay for another year. Bowles is part of the plan. Not sure you can recruit a highly talented HC by saying . . "hey we will give you a four year deal, but for the first two or three we will not be putting any $ into free agency . ."
Now . . .
If Licht truly thought we were in a “window”, he would’ve been more active.
And, yes, we are still paying off the credit card. Look at this year. We’re paying nearly $60M in dead money. We’ll be at $30M next year off Jensen and Shaq alone (not to mention Godwin’s pending $19M void year).
Whether right or wrong, it very much looks like Licht is currently prioritizing setting up a better cap situation for 2025 and beyond vs. loading up in any facet this season. He spread certain hits to get AWJ, Wirfs, Evans, and Baker locked up; but outside of that, we simply didn’t/don’t have the room.
And, I’m not mad at him for him not doing anything with a bad HC running the team.;
Then . .
I'm saying 10-7. Anything less is a failure.
Also, at the very least, a return to the NFC Divisional Round.
Again, anything less is a failure.
By the way ^^^ that post started with you TROLLING the people who predicted a potentially less successful season
Weird how a certain contingent of fans are magically starting the "schedule blaming" campaign.
Guessing when you where trolling others for "schedule blaming" and saying that "anything less" than 10-7 was "failure" you knew that "it very much looks like Licht is currently prioritizing setting up a better cap situation for 2025 and beyond vs. loading up in any facet this season"
:-)
I’m not interested in hearing that this was meant to be a rebuilding year or that we’re still paying past players. Bowles and Licht didn’t enter this season with that mindset. They expected playoffs and contending.
Going back to your original post, which was good as usual.
But, highlighting this here.
If Licht truly thought we were in a “window”, he would’ve been more active.
And, yes, we are still paying off the credit card. Look at this year. We’re paying nearly $60M in dead money. We’ll be at $30M next year off Jensen and Shaq alone (not to mention Godwin’s pending $19M void year).
Whether right or wrong, it very much looks like Licht is currently prioritizing setting up a better cap situation for 2025 and beyond vs. loading up in any facet this season. He spread certain hits to get AWJ, Wirfs, Evans, and Baker locked up; but outside of that, we simply didn’t/don’t have the room.
And, I’m not mad at him for him not doing anything with a bad HC running the team.;
He gave him 5 years
I’m not interested in hearing that this was meant to be a rebuilding year or that we’re still paying past players. Bowles and Licht didn’t enter this season with that mindset. They expected playoffs and contending.
Going back to your original post, which was good as usual.
But, highlighting this here.
If Licht truly thought we were in a “window”, he would’ve been more active.
And, yes, we are still paying off the credit card. Look at this year. We’re paying nearly $60M in dead money. We’ll be at $30M next year off Jensen and Shaq alone (not to mention Godwin’s pending $19M void year).
Whether right or wrong, it very much looks like Licht is currently prioritizing setting up a better cap situation for 2025 and beyond vs. loading up in any facet this season. He spread certain hits to get AWJ, Wirfs, Evans, and Baker locked up; but outside of that, we simply didn’t/don’t have the room.
And, I’m not mad at him for him not doing anything with a bad HC running the team.;
He gave him 5 years
And?
Not denying you have a valid opinion regarding coaching issues, I just differ on the fact that Bowles is bad enough to replace.
Doesn’t adjust. The way he handled Evans injury and Godwin. His complete and total lack of understanding as it pertains to clock/time management. Personnel decisions.
I could go on and on.
Don’t fire him now. Let him play out the remainder of the season. Upgrade in February.
I agree with everything except the “didn’t adjust” - do you mean in-game?Not denying you have a valid opinion regarding coaching issues, I just differ on the fact that Bowles is bad enough to replace.
Doesn’t adjust. The way he handled Evans injury and Godwin. His complete and total lack of understanding as it pertains to clock/time management. Personnel decisions.
I could go on and on.
Don’t fire him now. Let him play out the remainder of the season. Upgrade in February.
Differences aside, I have been known to jump off the HC train in the past - the Lovie disappointment was a train I got off quickly, too. Unfortunately, our team’s history is chock full of Ray Petkins’s Leeman Bennet’s, Richard Williamson’s, Greg Sciano’s, Dirk Koetter’s… some of those were in SUCKcession. And years of my life went with them.
Bowles, in this organization, is no where near that level of bad. After a while you can tell when bad is happening, while this defense that’s filling-in rivals that kind of bad, I don’t think Bowles can be put on that list.
I think the lack of talent on defense we’re currently struggling through - was a worst-case scenario that was considered. I believe the cash-strapped position was considered and they won’t hang that on Bowles, and they’ll give him more time.
However, one thing that remains as consistent as bad HC picks: the owners don’t always side with the wishes of some of their fans.
Not denying you have a valid opinion regarding coaching issues, I just differ on the fact that Bowles is bad enough to replace.
Doesn’t adjust. The way he handled Evans injury and Godwin. His complete and total lack of understanding as it pertains to clock/time management. Personnel decisions.
I could go on and on.
Don’t fire him now. Let him play out the remainder of the season. Upgrade in February.
absolutely ageee if they do it that way! losing twice to falcons the season is over, but one good late season run might save him job and that‘s why I would fire him right now!
of course, we all know that is not going to happen and I am afraid he is going to be on our sideline next season as well
and they’ll give him more time.
So, a potential scenario this offseason:
Coen gets offered a HC gig somewhere. The only way to keep him is to promote him here.
Who are rolling with in 2025 at HC?
Realistically, unless the Bucs lose 7 or more of their remaining games Bowles will be back in 2025. Injuries and salary cap hits will be an excuse not to fire Bowles.
As I’ve said, I think the organization feels they’ve onboarded an OC, twice. So I think we roll with Bowles, and the organization will find a new OC.and they’ll give him more time.
So, a potential scenario this offseason:
Coen gets offered a HC gig somewhere. The only way to keep him is to promote him here.
Who are rolling with in 2025 at HC?
Also have previously said that the organization feels they’ve onboarded have the staff & culture in place to support a HC with some consistency on one side of the ball. Bowles defense is a good one, if it has enough/adequate talent. We all agreed that we could have done more, but by dedicating the number one pick (and a RB & WR that have been more than just part time contributors) a LOT of draft resources were dedicated to the offense. That left the defense to find solutions in FA - but that would have had potentially massive impact on the salary cap/credit card. So, Licht decided not to participate.
Thats where we are, I think that will be a priortity in the next draft - but if we pick again in the bottom 3rd of every round - how much help will add there? That leaves FA again - you’ve already detailed that we will be in a slightly better CAP position than we were this season, so we won’t be spending like drunken sailors…
That is a reality that will still be around, regardless of who we have at HC. You’re also not going to attract a top-flight DC unless that person has access to a good defense to build from. Thats going to seriously narrow the options.
From a strictly business perspective, the best course is do what most of the NFL has done in the last few years - stick with what you have and replace the OC if need be.
@white-tiger - eventually what I say about the Bucs comes to fruition. Just depends how long it will take the Bucs to get there.
@ehinote …and very likely, so will mine. Just depends on how long it takes all the fan base to get there.
